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steeljack 16-01-2009 15:35

Pensioner dies at cash machine
 
Surprised no one has mentioned this news story , An Accrington pensioner driven to cash machine by bailiff collapses and dies .
question .....are these bailiffs employed by the courts (Govt. employees) or are they 'private' employees working for collection agencies working on a commision ?

Pensioner suffers heart attack and dies after bailiff drives him to cashpoint under 'duress' to pay speeding fine | Mail Online

Royboy39 16-01-2009 15:52

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 669754)
Surprised no one has mentioned this news story , An Accrington pensioner driven to cash machine by bailiff collapses and dies .
question .....are these bailiffs employed by the courts (Govt. employees) or are they 'private' employees working for collection agencies working on a commision ?

Pensioner suffers heart attack and dies after bailiff drives him to cashpoint under 'duress' to pay speeding fine | Mail Online

These characters are registered by councils and work for private companies in the main.

This makes very sorry reading for me..Andy and his wife Rose have been friends of mine for very many years and so too his younger children.
He was a very bouncy little character who could talk for England. :)
He was well known by some of the very many Stars who performed in The Cabin End when Andy was the Landlord.
My condolancies go out with deepest sympathy to all of Andy's family.

lancsdave 16-01-2009 15:57

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The only consolation for the man's fmily would be for them to publish the bailiffs name and adress and let people go and harass him and his family ( although I doubt a bailliff has father )

No doubt some PC person will tell me he is only doing his job but they really are amongst the lowest form of human species :mad:

jaysay 16-01-2009 16:10

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 669761)
The only consolation for the man's fmily would be for them to publish the bailiffs name and adress and let people go and harass him and his family ( although I doubt a bailliff has father )

No doubt some PC person will tell me he is only doing his job but they really are amongst the lowest form of human species :mad:

Oh come on dave, human, thats pushing it a bit ain't it mate

Pamperqueen 16-01-2009 17:28

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You can't do bad things with the excuse of "oh it's my job". I mean what if bailiffs were ordered to start roughing people up? Does that mean they would do it?

However I think the main blame lies with court bosses rather than the bailiff himself. According to the Telegraph, they were told about the guy's condition but they sent the guy out anyway/

I know people should pay their fines, but what can they be thinking to put the hard word on a guy who is clearly potless, a bit confused and with a poorly heart to boot.

panther 16-01-2009 17:35

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That should never had happened!!, A man dies for a stupid £60 fine, which resulted in £290 been added on for costs, because he was too ill too pay!!

This bailiff should be struck off, he should have klnown the man was ill, cuz for one , the poor chap wouldnt have looked healthy after suffering what he did, and he had no right taking him to the cash machine either:eek:, the poor chap must have been petrified!!
The prat is nothing but a big bully!!

ozzypostie 16-01-2009 17:38

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im shocked i used to work with this fellow a few years back he was such a grand bloke

lancsdave 16-01-2009 18:32

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Originally Posted by Pamperqueen (Post 669797)
You can't do bad things with the excuse of "oh it's my job". I mean what if bailiffs were ordered to start roughing people up? Does that mean they would do it?


They all have their own methods and I'm sure a few of them will try that method :(

Eric 16-01-2009 19:03

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Crazy stuff going on ... and the last statement in the article makes it even more disturbing ... any dun coming to my door would get the bum's rush and my lawyer's business card .... sad, real sad .... I have read many posts about how the "youth of today" have so little respect for the elderly ... now it seems as if the govt. and the courts have even less. This is pure, unadulterated BS.

Royboy39 16-01-2009 20:36

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 669837)
Crazy stuff going on ... and the last statement in the article makes it even more disturbing ... any dun coming to my door would get the bum's rush and my lawyer's business card .... sad, real sad .... I have read many posts about how the "youth of today" have so little respect for the elderly ... now it seems as if the govt. and the courts have even less. This is pure, unadulterated BS.

Eric....you dont know the half of it. These animals have been given the backing of the law, not only for pensioners but for everyone.
They try and in most cases get away with intimidation in the extreme.
The people who have let things slide...to put it loosly are the most vulnerable....and the majority of the people cant afford to pay anyway but are still hounded.
I do not agree with breaking the speeding law and have been done myself but hopefully the investigation that has been promised will curb the activities of these money grabbing leeches and bring to heel the ones who sign the court orders without due consideration for the individual.
It would not surprise me in the least that the pleas from the family are denied by the ones responsible for recording such details.
I have lost a friend and I am very angry.

accyman 16-01-2009 20:36

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i heard this on teh radio and personaly i think the bailifs shoudl be done for manslaughter

these legalised thugs and others like them like the council like to employ should be given stricter guidelines but unfortunatly last year the govenment gave these thugs even MORE powers to cause misery and upset to people already in a bad situation which may have not been brought upon themselves by already unfortunate occurances

onve upon a time you had to be present for a bailif to take things but now they can break into your home wether you be out shopping or laying in hospital with no one to prove what they took or what they didnt take

lecherous scumbags need to be controled more not given more freedom to do as they please intimidating the elderly into their graves

cmonstanley 16-01-2009 20:54

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somebdy should send this story to the national rags

always thought bailif=scum

Royboy39 16-01-2009 20:58

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 669879)
somebdy should send this story to the national rags

always thought bailif=scum

The story has been taken up by the BBC.

BBC NEWS | England | Lancashire | Man dies during visit by bailiff

Less 16-01-2009 22:52

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Absolutely disgusted, What price a man's life? We now know, it's £60!

cherokee 16-01-2009 23:25

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Saw this on the news earlierand I thinks it absolutely disgusting that this bailiff should get away with it.
Agree with accyman they should be done for manslaughter.
thoughts go out to the guys family.


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