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ossylass 12-02-2009 09:35

Traffic Accident
 
A five-year old boy was badly hurt on the crossing by St. Paul's school in Union Road yesterday afternoon. Do hope he's going to be alright. The ambulance arrived within minutes. Perhaps we need a school-crossing patrol there; it is a very busy stretch of road.

jaysay 12-02-2009 09:50

Re: Traffic Accident
 
There always used to be a Lolly Pop controlled crossing at the bottom of Haworth Street, is it not there anymore:confused:

ossylass 12-02-2009 11:48

Re: Traffic Accident
 
Not sure about Haworth Street, Jaysay, but think school-crossing patrol should be at St. Paul's junior school. Granada news van has just pulled onto the car park - looks like they're covering the incident.

magily 12-02-2009 13:47

Child knocked down in Ossy
 
I just read this in the telegraph, I feel so bad for the child.
My comment though is why on earth would a 5yr old be crossing Union Rd without an adult. I will say I live in Canada now and admit I may not have all the facts. What I do know though is I grew up in Ossy and 30yrs ago Union Rd was bad to cross then so I have no doubt it is far busier now.

blazey 12-02-2009 13:51

Re: Child knocked down in Ossy
 
My biggest fear is being knocked over.

I was once on Union Road near the cash machine that was once outside the PO (now its Bargains 4 U) and some women were coming out of the tanning shop chatting with a little boy who must have been no older than two, not holding his hand and he ran right out into the road in front of a van but luckily they pulled him out of the road before it hit him.

My mum and I both froze scared stiff. I felt sick just at the thought of what could have happened.

cashman 12-02-2009 13:58

Re: Child knocked down in Ossy
 
hope the kids ok?:confused: can't get me head round how children that age are allowed on main roads alone.

Mick 12-02-2009 14:07

Re: Child knocked down in Ossy
 
Here is a link to the story in the Telegraph

Oswaldtwistle boy, 5, in fight for life after crash (From Lancashire Telegraph)

katex 12-02-2009 14:11

Re: Child knocked down in Ossy
 
There is another thread on this incident started earlier 'Traffic Accident' .. perhaps you could link them up Mick ?

Poor little mite doesn't sound too good ... can only keep fingers crossed.

Personally, I think 5 year olds are just as capable of crossing a main road as some older children; one of which strolled in front of my car as I came down Union Road on Tuesday.

Shame to debate this at the moment though ... sure the parents are in a bad enough way as it is.

emzy 12-02-2009 14:13

Re: Child knocked down in Ossy
 
Hope the little ones ok and makes a speedy recovery

cashman 12-02-2009 14:13

Re: Child knocked down in Ossy
 
ta mick,it raises the question,Why is there no lollipop lady? always was there when i lived up that way.:confused:

Mick 12-02-2009 14:20

Re: Child knocked down in Ossy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 678835)
There is another thread on this incident started earlier 'Traffic Accident' .. perhaps you could link them up Mick ?

ok i have merged both threads

Lilly 12-02-2009 15:13

Re: Child knocked down in Ossy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by magily (Post 678824)
My comment though is why on earth would a 5yr old be crossing Union Rd without an adult..

There may have been an adult with him. Where does it say that he was on his own? :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 678837)
ta mick,it raises the question,Why is there no lollipop lady? always was there when i lived up that way.:confused:

I live very near to the school and know people who go there.

Apparently the school have looked into the idea of zebra crossings or a lollipop lady but when they looked into it they found that not enough children come to school that way to warrant it.

Most children come along Moscow Mill Street from Springhill way.

cashman 12-02-2009 15:17

Re: Child knocked down in Ossy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 678859)
There may have been an adult with him. Where does it say that he was on his own? :confused:



I live very near to the school and know people who go there.

Apparently the school have looked into the idea of zebra crossings or a lollipop lady but when they looked into it they found that not enough children come to school that way to warrant it.

Most children come along Moscow Mill Street from Springhill way.

in that case why was there always one stationed there years ago wi less traffic? utter crap, maybe most use the other route, but still children use union rd through necesssity.:rolleyes:

Lilly 12-02-2009 15:25

Re: Child knocked down in Ossy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 678860)
in that case why was there always one stationed there years ago wi less traffic? utter crap, maybe most use the other route, but still children use union rd through necesssity.:rolleyes:

Maybe there were more children coming to school along Union Rd years ago.

Not many do now.

katex 12-02-2009 15:46

Re: Traffic Accident
 
The Observer report shows it as still trying to contact the driver of the van, whereas, the Telegraph report that the driver is in shock, and not been arrested. Just in case, people get the impression is hit and run. The Observer closing time is usually Wedns. at around 6.p.m. so this may account for it.

MargaretR 12-02-2009 15:52

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The little lad is reported to have hit the side of a van
So it looks like he walked or ran into it.
Vans don't 'sidle up' to pedestrians

magily 12-02-2009 16:14

Re: Child knocked down in Ossy
 
[quote=Lilly;678859]There may have been an adult with him. Where does it say that he was on his own? :confused:



I do not know if there was an adult with him or not, which is why I said that I do not have all the facts being here in Canada. I do feel terrible for both the child and the family as this is an accident which is clearly going to impact this family for a long time. Hopefully it will serve as a reminder to many parents how precious our children really are.

cashman 12-02-2009 16:15

Re: Child knocked down in Ossy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 678863)
Maybe there were more children coming to school along Union Rd years ago.

Not many do now.

the fact children still do or have too warrants a lollipop lady on a very busy main road in my book, or does the fact not many do now make it not worth it?:rolleyes:

Taggy 12-02-2009 17:00

Re: Traffic Accident
 
Dont know about 5 year olds not having any road sense...the older ones who go to Rhyddings have precious little of it, Union Roads a nightmare when they get let out! Hope this kids going to be alright!


Best Regards - Taggy

garinda 12-02-2009 17:47

Re: Traffic Accident
 
I cross there to go to the doctors, and you certainly need all your wits about you.

If there isn't enough children crossing Union Road to warrant a Lollipop lady/man, then the school should drum into their children they should walk up to the clinic, to use the Pelican Crossing there.

I hope the little lad pulls through.:(

panther 12-02-2009 17:56

Re: Traffic Accident
 
Arnt they supposed to to be putting a crossing nr ossy mils for the staff?
I think the school needs one more than them.I cross that island nearly everyday to take my kid to school and the speed half of em do is no help. You would think they would slow down especially when you see someone stood in the middle, but NOOOOOO!!!

Lilly 12-02-2009 20:37

Re: Traffic Accident
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 678885)
the fact children still do or have too warrants a lollipop lady on a very busy main road in my book, or does the fact not many do now make it not worth it?:rolleyes:

As I understand it there needs to be a certain amount of 'customers' to warrant a lollipop lady. You need to have your wits about you near a school, especially one on a main road but LCC won't employ lollipop ladies for less than a certain number.

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 678933)
I cross there to go to the doctors, and you certainly need all your wits about you.

If there isn't enough children crossing Union Road to warrant a Lollipop lady/man, then the school should drum into their children they should walk up to the clinic, to use the Pelican Crossing there.

I hope the little lad pulls through.:(

The school discourage parents and children from crossing directly outside school. Letters have been sent out on several occasions. You're right. They should use the crossing near the clinic.

I hope the little lad makes a recovery too. :(

cashman 12-02-2009 21:51

Re: Traffic Accident
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 679053)
As I understand it there needs to be a certain amount of 'customers' to warrant a lollipop lady. You need to have your wits about you near a school, especially one on a main road but LCC won't employ lollipop ladies for less than a certain number.



The school discourage parents and children from crossing directly outside school. Letters have been sent out on several occasions. You're right. They should use the crossing near the clinic.

I hope the little lad makes a recovery too. :(

the fact LCC won't employ one fer less than a certain number,don't make it right Lilly.

Eric 12-02-2009 21:59

Re: Traffic Accident
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 678933)
I cross there to go to the doctors, and you certainly need all your wits about you.

If there isn't enough children crossing Union Road to warrant a Lollipop lady/man, then the school should drum into their children they should walk up to the clinic, to use the Pelican Crossing there.

I hope the little lad pulls through.:(

"Pelican Crossing":confused::confused: I remember the Belisha Beacons, but Pelican's????

garinda 12-02-2009 22:07

Re: Traffic Accident
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 679100)
"Pelican Crossing":confused::confused: I remember the Belisha Beacons, but Pelican's????

It's a crossing where the pedestrian presses a button, which halts the traffic by the lights turnind red. A green man flashes to alert the person wanting to cross the road that it's now safe.

I think it's called Pelican, unless they've renamed them.

Caz 12-02-2009 22:09

Re: Traffic Accident
 
I believe that lollipop people can now take parents back accross the road? is this correct? Once of a day, they would take you accross with the little ones, but they wouldn't stop the traffic when going back without.

Only ask because i had an accident with a car about 10 years ago, and couldn't cross any major road for a long while due to trauma. Hence I had to let the kids go accross the road at Hare and Hounds on their own and make their own way up to school, because I wasn't allowed assistance back.

Seems the young lad was with his sister, presumably one from the same school?

Geez I lived accross from St Nicks when youngest 2 were there, lollipop lady and all, I still watched them till they got accross safely.

Benipete 12-02-2009 22:09

Re: Traffic Accident
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 679100)
"Pelican Crossing":confused::confused: I remember the Belisha Beacons, but Pelican's????

Short for Pedestrian Light control.

There is also a Puffin Crossing short for - Pedestrian User Friendly Intelligent.:confused:

cashman 12-02-2009 23:03

Re: Traffic Accident
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 679105)
Short for Pedestrian Light control.

There is also a Puffin Crossing short for - Pedestrian User Friendly Intelligent.:confused:

theres also many crossings in spain that motorists completely ignore.

accyman 12-02-2009 23:26

Re: Traffic Accident
 
on the matter of road safety if the tufty club hadnt have been gotten rid of by the PC brigade scum and such like then maybe kids woud be better educated regarding traffic

traffic increased and the way it was dealt with was to teach children less about road safety

MargaretR 12-02-2009 23:31

Re: Traffic Accident
 
I question the safety of a mid road island at that crossing point.
The road is narrow. The island makes the traffic lanes even narrower.
The poor mite would only need to be stood there, stick his neck out to look around his sister, and be inches from the passing vehicles.

Neil 13-02-2009 07:40

Re: Traffic Accident
 
I think the school should have a pelican crossing. Has the school got railing outside, if not it should

http://www.findleys.co.uk/highway_co...ican_cross.gif

katex 13-02-2009 13:36

Re: Traffic Accident
 
Something I learned the other day Neil, was that the red paving with the raised knobs is to guide partially sighted/blind people to the button, and the edge of the paving. Some in Hyndburn are 'T' shaped which seemingly is not correct, as would only lead them to the centre.

Neil 13-02-2009 13:39

Re: Traffic Accident
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 679395)
Something I learned the other day Neil, was that the red paving with the raised knobs is to guide partially sighted/blind people to the button, and the edge of the paving. Some in Hyndburn are 'T' shaped which seemingly is not correct, as would only lead them to the centre.

Miss latex you are a wealth of knowledge :D

emamum 13-02-2009 13:46

Re: Traffic Accident
 
lol @ latex

katex 13-02-2009 13:49

Re: Traffic Accident
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emamum (Post 679399)
lol @ latex

Used to it Emamum.

Doesn't sound like this little lad is doing too well just yet, and a few 'non-helpful' comments at the bottom :-

Oswaldtwistle boy, 5, in fight for life after crash (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Neil 13-02-2009 15:59

Re: Traffic Accident
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emamum (Post 679399)
lol @ latex

I just like to think of her in latex :rolleyes::D:eek:


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