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Ossywarrior 16-02-2009 19:14

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lol

i used to watch soildier soldier when i was in army and i couldnt belive the stuff they got away with but it didnt make me want to try it :D

Caz 16-02-2009 19:15

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Originally Posted by Ossywarrior (Post 680996)
yeh mainly from experience and i belive its getting even worse

But what you believe is possibly from your own experience, and it's unfair to tar all low income families with the same brush. Are you a bad boy then? If not you have disproved part of your own theory.

cashman 16-02-2009 19:15

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Originally Posted by Ossywarrior (Post 680977)
how is it sweeping? the goverment would like us all to think that children living in poverty dont get left at the wayside but the reality is they do, pick an area of accrington that has a lot of low income familys how, how many of there children go on to university? when i was

have to disagree, that to me is the same line of thinking that says all those on benefits are scroungers. any kid with ability can go to university as my lad did, its all about sacrifices if yer prepared to make em in low income families.

MargaretR 16-02-2009 19:17

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Originally Posted by Ossywarrior (Post 680999)
lol

i used to watch soildier soldier when i was in army and i couldnt belive the stuff they got away with but it didnt make me want to try it :D

The words when i was inare very relevant - you were already aware what standard was expected of you.

Children newly entering secondary school expected it to be as depicted in Grangehill and behaved accordingly

Mancie 16-02-2009 19:18

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 679896)
Was watching Breakfast TV this morning and the Governments Behavior Tsar, Sir Alan Steer, was being interviewed regarding children's class room behavior. It seems, according to this chap, that behavior is no worse now than it was in the 50s and 60s, I just don't know where they dig these people up from.

Too right.. "where do they dig these people up from"?.. I mean the likes of David Cameron telling us to hug knife wielding, drug fuelled hoodies..were did you dig him up from? :rolleyes:

Ossywarrior 16-02-2009 19:21

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Originally Posted by Caz (Post 681001)
But what you believe is possibly from your own experience, and it's unfair to tar all low income families with the same brush. Are you a bad boy then? If not you have disproved part of your own theory.

i was a bit of a ****** when i was growing up and left school with 0 gcse.

and out of experience i have a large group of friends with quiet a lot of us who came from low income familys and none of us went to university and id say none of use have any real future job wise.

Ossywarrior 16-02-2009 19:22

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 681007)
Too right.. "where do they dig these people up from"?.. I mean the likes of David Cameron telling us to hug knife wielding, drug fuelled hoodies..were did you dig him up from? :rolleyes:


u mean you dont?

panther 16-02-2009 19:23

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:)

Ossywarrior 16-02-2009 19:24

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 681005)
The words when i was inare very relevant - you were already aware what standard was expected of you.

Children newly entering secondary school expected it to be as depicted in Grangehill and behaved accordingly

i know what your saying i jsut cant really see it. i was in primary school when grange hill started...i think? and i never once saw a sausage on a fork.

and tackiling hard hitting issues is good isnt it? or do we have to sugarcoat the world ?

Royboy39 16-02-2009 19:26

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 681007)
Too right.. "where do they dig these people up from"?.. I mean the likes of David Cameron telling us to hug knife wielding, drug fuelled hoodies..were did you dig him up from? :rolleyes:

Have I not seen you on Speakers Corner touting for Micheal Foot?
I believe your mate Reg had a contract out on Wilson? :cool:

cashman 16-02-2009 19:26

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Originally Posted by Ossywarrior (Post 681012)
i know what your saying i jsut cant really see it. i was in primary school when grange hill started...i think? and i never once saw a sausage on a fork.

and tackiling hard hitting issues is good isnt it? or do we have to sugarcoat the world ?

sugercoat sod all in my book.:D

MargaretR 16-02-2009 19:31

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I still say that the dramatised bad behaviour shown on Grangehill led many children, who then entered secondary school, to believe that bad behaviour was acceptable and the norm
when it wasn't before

Ossywarrior 16-02-2009 19:36

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maybe if the teacher where stronger they wouldnt of got away with it ? or maybe its the "kids have rights to" brigade that made it how it is? my mum said i had rights once i brought money into the house :D

MargaretR 16-02-2009 19:38

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Originally Posted by Ossywarrior (Post 681024)
maybe if the teacher where stronger they wouldnt of got away with it ? or maybe its the "kids have rights to" brigade that made it how it is? my mum said i had rights once i brought money into the house :D

Teachers were always able to cope with one or 2 such badly behaved pupils per class, but when the whole class had a distorted view of what was acceptable they were overwhelmed

Mancie 16-02-2009 19:43

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whille I was reading this thread a bloke on the telly made the statement.."our generation have let our childrens generation down"... maybe we should think that way a little before steaming to todays kids... at the end of the day it is us that created any situation..kids don't just "take over" unlike adults.


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