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have just read that a report suggests tougher fines fer dropping litter! whilst i agree litter dropping is n anti-social thing,n should be tackled, what i cannot grasp is another report,of n intruder armed with n hammer at the unfortunate "Jade Goodys" hospital bed, the woman responsible police say has been released from custody and there will be no futher action!:( now am i stupid? this to me is far more serious than dropping litter? the implications do not bear thinking about, yet think tanks n such are paid good public money to come up with these ideas about litter:confused: why is the money not used to tackle real crime n stuff which could really effect people?:mad:

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Maybe the woman with a hammer wasn't prosecuted because it maybe was a stunt arranged by Max Clifford.
Nothing that man stoops low for surprises me

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if that was the case which i doubt,surely Clifford would/ should be done fer wasting police time?

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Perhaps the police don't want to be seen to be aggravating an already sensitive issue.
As for litter - our plastic policemen are to be given the power to fine on the spot offenders, so the real bobbies can spend more time catching nasty crims.

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Yeah right, and did the story you read about this begin 'Once upon a Time', & end, 'and they all lived happily ever after'?

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I think that's the scenario in cloud cuckoo land Less:rolleyes:

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Don't get me on about the litter, whenever I come back to England I am always disgusted at the rubbish thrown on the floor. When I was growing up we would put our rubbish in our pocket until we where near a bin.
Is it that their are not enough litter bins in the community?
Is it that people have no pride in their community?
In my community we have lots of garbage cans available, we have community clean up days in the spring, to clean up after the winter.
When people visit that is always one of the things everyone comments on how clean it is here.
Please help me understand this?
And please don't get me going on the dog poop everywhere...

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whats to understand magily?:confused: the whole point of the thread is someone at a hospital bedside with a hammer is dealt with less severly than a litter lout, unless you think it should be so?

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because of all this enviromental and lets be green brainwashing we have been subjected to the past few years its is now more of a stigma to be a litter bug or non recycler than to be a murderer

you can get a bigger fine for leaving a black bin bag out with your wheelie bin than what you would get for shoplifiting or assaulting somone :rolleyes:

also instead of placing more bins on teh streets councils amazingly now put less on teh streets probably because they are scared somone will put a bomb in one and we all know how high up accrington is on alquiads list of things to do dont we :rolleyes:

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Well Cashy I'm with you, I can't get my head round dropping litter being the more serious matter.

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Should that silly Tart that showered Mandy with Green stuff not have had an on the spot fine also, seeing as half of it ended up on the pavement!!:D

I'm amazed anybody got past the press pack to get to Jade Goody without being spotted, bound to have summat to do with that moron of a husband of hers!


Best Regards - Taggy

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i wouldnt put it past her and her agent to have arranged teh whole thing seen as her life and whats left of it has been spent prostituting her self for teh tabloids and whatbetter way to make a few extra quid than appear in the magazines and papers with a shocking story

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whatever the truth of the matter is completely irrelevant is dropping litter e.g a fag end/ crisp packet more serious? i certainly don't think so.

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My apologies cashman for not staying on topic , it was early here and I just saw the mention of litter which is a pet hate of mine when I come to England :eek:

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To me cashy its just a sign of the times, you know the though on crime though on the causes of crime, you dare drop a piece of paper and we'll have you banged to rights, threaten somebody with a hammer and you get a pat on the head and a sugar lump:(

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It's a pet hate for alot of us but we manage to keep things in perspective, as with many things in life.

Threaten someone with a hammer?

No action.

Old lady drops her docker on the street, full force of the law, you will pay your fine or face the consequences!

Before the litter louts can be brought under control, the real criminals should be brought to boot, then perhaps respect for each other will lead to no littering?

By the way is Canada so perfect you have to correct our way of living? You left to get a better life, you now have it, let us worry about day to day living here, you just cope with the nostalgia.
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Well if your going to get fined more for dropping your fag end on the floor that hitting someone with a hammer there is one easy solution to this

ram your fag end down some body's throat

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The two are dealt with by two different organisations.

The litter issue is now dealt with by the Local Council.
The hammer type offence is obviously dealt with by the Police.
Maybe the Police need to learn from the Local Council what zero tolerance means and how to deal with offenders.

Have the Council got it right and the Police got it wrong?

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I think the real question is Neil have the police and the courts ever got it right, I have never seen the point of the police investigating a crime and then when it gets to court the men and women in curly wigs give out a slap on the wrists, maybe the police just think why the hell should we work like hell bringing these people to court when the punishment never seems to fit the crime:(

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It has turned out that the woman did not hit Jade with the hammer, she didn't even threaten her with it. She just had it in her bag.

The hammer was a judge's gavel which she carried for religious reasons. :confused:

I don't understand what sort of religion but the point I'm trying to make is that we are comparing someone dropping litter with someone threatening or hitting someone with a hammer when that is not what happened.

I was shocked at first when they let the woman go but as she did not threaten Jade with the hammer, didn't even get it out of her bag then she hasn't done anything against the law.