Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 751846)

To avoid all the pedantry and nonsensical colour discrimination accusations, perhaps in future this kind of post should read :-

In the variable spectrum of recent events, long after the birth of mankind, whence a throng of individuals that long ago broke away from their hereditary east african culture and founded a new culture, travelled as a small group, who, seemingly unhappy with their own culture and values, settled amidst another culture. In time they did express that they disagreed most vehemently with many aspects of the new found culture.

(Notwithstanding the fact that this new found culture also began as a breakaway group from the self same hereditary east african culture, which also consisted of a throng of individuals that long ago broke away from their hereditary east african culture and after various battles and wars, became civilised and founded a new culture that they were happy with.)

This disagreement was expressed by verbal abuse, flag burning, bottle throwing and the like against the returning heroic warriors of the new found culture. These dissenters were then protected from the wrath of the families of warriors who would not be returning home by the guardians of the new found culture, who had sworn to uphold the culture of which they were dissenting against.

Is it not time that the new found culture re-evaluated its policies in tolerating this kind of cultural dissent?

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 751959)

Sounds good to me. Maybe in a tit for tat sort of way - and in the wake of the British Raj' campaign in India - we are headed for an Indian Raj' in the UK! Mancie would certainly qualify for the post of punka-wallah!

Originally Posted by armani (Post 753312)

i think its gone well to far I dont think they realized they breed like rabbits before they started letting them in i think they are responsible for most of the drugs that come into this country and most of the fraud

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 753558)

And probably for the no smoking ban, the bad weather, England's failure to beat the Ukraine, and the drop in quality of meat pies .... :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 693986)

Is there a point at which multiculteralism should be deemed to be heading too far.? Its been reported that 1 in 7 primary school pupils have English as a second language. In some areas English is a foreign language to over 70% of 4-11 year olds. Ten schools are without a single pupil who has English as a first language. In 4 years the number of primary school children who dont have English as their first language has increased by 25% and one school has pupils with 56 different languages!. This is as things stand now...or rather last year, so surely if nothing is done to drastically curtail immigration, then this situation can only get much worse. This surely must greatly effect the standard of education that children are receiving in this country, when so much resource has to be put basic english language skills. Apparently £206 million funding is being put into increasing the "Ethnic minority achievement grant" by 2010.

Surely if things are allowed to carry on at this rate, we as a country are going to lose our national identity, can that be right? WE've always been a very patriotic country, proud of our national heritage and common values. This must be being eroded by the level of multiculteralism to which we are surely heading, if more control is not taken over immigration. Its obviously right and beneficial to have a certain ammount of diversity, and integration of others cultures into our society, but i dont feel this should be allowed to grow to a level that it puts our own National Identity at risk. One of the benefits of travel, is to see other nationalities and cultures, a lot can be enjoyed and learned by seeing other lands and how people live there. However, its still usually nice to return home, and be among people of your own upbriging with whom you share common values. Britain is i think in danger of feeling less like home, and more just a nation of disparate groups sharing a chunk of earth. Australia, another island nation, has set and indeed now reduced the level of imigrants its going to take, particularily in the current ecconomic climate. I really feel we need to do the same.

If things carry on in the way that they are, rather than us having to debate possible Street name changes in Hyndburn, our Grandchildren and Great Grandchildren may be talking about changing the name of the Country!

Best Regards - Taggy

Originally Posted by armani (Post 753312)

i think its gone well to far I dont think they realized they breed like rabbits before they started letting them in i think they are responsible for most of the drugs that come into this country and most of the fraud

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 753558)

And probably for the no smoking ban, the bad weather, England's failure to beat the Ukraine, and the drop in quality of meat pies .... :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 753632)

lol... did meat pies ever have any quality? :D

Originally Posted by joaner3 (Post 753587)

I live in Montreal, a french province, if you come to live in this province you are automatically sent to a french school, unless one of your parents went to an english school here in Canada. All immigrants go to french school, you have no choice but to learn the language.

This was all started by the Parti Quebecois government which won in 1977, I was lucky because I came to Canada in 1974 so I could send my daughter to English school with no problem. She is fluently bilingual.

What I hear and see about whats going on in England, I feel very sad.
Doesn't this "government" realize what they are doing.

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 753655)

Only the ones you could buy in the bottom end of Clayton;):D

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 753668)

haha. Those clayton park 'steak and pepper' pies are the best pies out there

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 753770)

mmmmmmMMM are you telling me margaret you dont like pale yellow tube pies?

jaysay, i haven't tried martin's pies