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Stumped 11-03-2009 14:31

Multiculteral Britain - A No,No?
 
In the light of recent events where a fanatical bunch of no-marks have barracked our troops during a welcome home parade at Luton, is it not time that we re-evaluated our supposedly tolerant approach to the policies of multicultereralism that recent governments have hammered us with.
:behead::behead::behead:

banjoman 11-03-2009 17:33

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oooh toughy. Its that line between freedom of expression social unrest.

I guess it depends a lot on the individual. I believe there are a small group of "pc" people who try to paint everything with a broad brush, and try to make every situation fit within it and then enforce this on everyone else. I dont think this is possible.

For example were the IRA freedom fighters or terrorists ? If they were terrorists then werent the French resistance in 1940s ?

What if the Nazis held a rally ? Should they be allowed to ? What about the BNP. If the BNP cant then why should any other political party ?

I generally have a rule of thumb which says believe in what you want to believe in as long as it doesnt affect me or you try to force it on me. Have respect for me and my opinions and I`ll respect yours. What I think is missing from certain people in this country is that respect for others, and at that point (if it was me) I`d politely kick them out of the country regardless of origin. Well not politely then, but they`d still be out.

Eric 11-03-2009 17:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 691416)
In the light of recent events where a fanatical bunch of no-marks have barracked our troops during a welcome home parade at Luton, is it not time that we re-evaluated our supposedly tolerant approach to the policies of multicultereralism that recent governments have hammered us with.
:behead::behead::behead:

I gave this some thought when reading the thread about the protesters in Luton ... without going into too much detail, I don't think that multi-culturalism will work all that well in England ... (this is an outsider's point of view, I might add) ... it works in Canada, because all of us here, apart from the First Nations are from somewhere else; and it works in the US for the same reasons ... President Obama, QED. But in England, about 90% or so of the population are English, and have been for centuries ... In a sense, they are First Nations; and I think that for many, immigrants will always be seen as intruders ... unless, of course, they come to England to be English. In another thread, Cashman mentioned that you don't go to another country, Canada for example, in order to remain English. If you go to a country that is willing to adopt you, then, it only makes sense that you adopt that country as your own, warts and all.

derekgas 11-03-2009 18:57

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I agree eric, and thank you for saving me all that typing! :D

West Ender 11-03-2009 19:26

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I have never agreed with multiculturalism as a "policy". In most Societies those from different cultures have been accepted on condition that they assimilated, primarily, into the culture that prevailed and worked for its good while adding to it the best from their own backgrounds.

This even worked in Great Britain up to the middle of the 20th century. For several centuries we had immigrants - French, Irish, Jewish, Chinese and, after WW2, some Poles and a little later Hungarians. Those people integrated with the natives, learned the language, fitted in but enriched the native culture with some aspects of their own. Most importantly they wanted to be loyal to Britain and all it stood for.

The multiculturalism that is so often advocated now is very, very wrong. Different ethnics are positively encouraged to follow their own paths, just as if they were in their land of origin, living and acting seperately from the rest, and that is, for want of a better word, apartheid. It is building great resentment on all sides and it will lead to much worse than the appalling demonstrations we've seen in the last few days. We should be saying, "One Nation, one culture."

jaysay 12-03-2009 09:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 691416)
In the light of recent events where a fanatical bunch of no-marks have barracked our troops during a welcome home parade at Luton, is it not time that we re-evaluated our supposedly tolerant approach to the policies of multiculteralism that recent governments have hammered us with.
:behead::behead::behead:

The only problem with this multiculteralism is that its all one way, we have to fall in line with every body else's cultures at the cost to our own. It used to be a well used phrase "A Englishman's Home is his Castle" but not anymore. Now we have to kowtow to every Tom, Dick and Ahmed that come to our shores and if there's anything left we are told to kiss the back side of our unelected European Masters. I find myself watching the news every day and making a perfect impression of Winston Churchill, who incidentally may well be spinning in is grave at what has become today's Britain:(:(:(:(:(

K-P 12-03-2009 11:58

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To the 4 people in this thread (so far)

How has multiculteralism adversly effected you personally?

Puffing Billy 12-03-2009 12:05

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When in Rome .....

cashman 12-03-2009 12:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 691416)
In the light of recent events where a fanatical bunch of no-marks have barracked our troops during a welcome home parade at Luton, is it not time that we re-evaluated our supposedly tolerant approach to the policies of multicultereralism that recent governments have hammered us with.
:behead::behead::behead:

i agree it does need re-evaluing. nowt against anyone who comes here n adapts to british laws/customs etc, but that scum at luton certainly do not.:(

cashman 12-03-2009 12:32

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Originally Posted by K-P (Post 691662)
To the 4 people in this thread (so far)

How has multiculteralism adversly effected you personally?

well its obvious to anyone, if people be-having like those scum at Luton, don't "Personally" make yer blood boil, perhaps you should join em?

K-P 12-03-2009 13:25

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 691668)
well its obvious to anyone, if people be-having like those scum at Luton, don't "Personally" make yer blood boil, perhaps you should join em?

Me? hey I only asked how multiculteralism adversly effected you personally.. It was just a question.. It wasnt even about luton or anything... Sorry it upset you so :(

cashman 12-03-2009 13:27

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Originally Posted by K-P (Post 691683)
Me? hey I only asked how it had effected you personally.. It was just a question.. Sorry it upset you so :(

aint upset me K-P, just asking a question like you.:D;)

K-P 12-03-2009 13:31

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 691684)
aint upset me K-P, just asking a question like you.:D;)


Backpeddling again cashy? :)

Eric 12-03-2009 13:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K-P (Post 691662)
To the 4 people in this thread (so far)

How has multiculteralism adversly effected you personally?

Hasn't affected me negatively at all ... but the question seems to be, "is multi-culturalism right for England"?

K-P 12-03-2009 13:48

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 691690)
Hasn't affected me negatively at all ... but the question seems to be, "is multi-culturalism right for England"?

I was wondering why poeple are getting upset at the thought when it doesnt even effect them..

Personally I am 100% for multi-culturalism in any country. I don't believe any human being should be restricted based on skin colour or birth place.

I was told many years ago that if this country threw out all the none english and the rest of the world sent back the english.. we wouldnt be able to cope. we wouldn't have enough room.

garinda 12-03-2009 14:12

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I've got two close friends.

Tina the Gordie, and Frances the Glaswegian.

The fact that Tina is Jewish and Frances is Chinese is incidental.

Both come from familes that have been fully integrated into their respective communities for well over a hundred years, and means they consider British through and through, yet they are still pround of their cultural identity. They just see it as secondary to who they actually are.

Eric 12-03-2009 14:14

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Originally Posted by K-P (Post 691692)
I was wondering why poeple are getting upset at the thought when it doesnt even effect them..

Personally I am 100% for multi-culturalism in any country. I don't believe any human being should be restricted based on skin colour or birth place.

I was told many years ago that if this country threw out all the none english and the rest of the world sent back the english.. we wouldnt be able to cope. we wouldn't have enough room.

I've no idea why people are getting upset ... just as I have no real clear idea of what "multi-culturism" actually is ... other than a buzz word, casually thrown around, with the assumption that it is somehow "good", and that to question it is to identify oneself as somehow reactionary at best, and bigotted at worst.

There is a good argument to make that Great Britain has always been multi-cultural. Unless someone wants to argue that the Scots, the Welsh, the Irish, and all the regions (north, south, midlands, Yorkshire, Lancashire, the north east etc. etc.) don't have distinct cultures. Perhaps we should not be using this almost meaningless term, and be talking about how an already diverse society should adjust to immigrants. Should immigrants from, say Poland, come to England and continue to be uniquely Polish? Should they be allowed to take all that England (or Britain) has to offer without making any adjustments to conform to what is already established, and has been for centuries?

In Canada, we don't really have that problem ... we are all immigrants (or, according to my First Nations' friends, settlers) ... our culture is multi-culture. Our Govenor General is an Haitian immigrant ... the latest Canadian soldier killed in Afghanistan was a Lebanese immigrant; his family arrived in Canada only nine years ago. Quebec is officially a "distinct society" within Canada. We need immigrants in order to grow ... you guys don't. There has always been a lot of talk here about a "Canadian identity": in other words, there is an on-going struggle to define ourselves as a nation. Brits don't have that problem, or shouldn't have, they already have a national identity, one which has developed over the centuries.

garinda 12-03-2009 14:19

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 691698)
I've no idea why people are getting upset ... just as I have no real clear idea of what "multi-culturism" actually is ... other than a buzz word, casually thrown around, with the assumption that it is somehow "good", and that to question it is to identify oneself as somehow reactionary at best, and bigotted at worst.

There is a good argument to make that Great Britain has always been multi-cultural. Unless someone wants to argue that the Scots, the Welsh, the Irish, and all the regions (north, south, midlands, Yorkshire, Lancashire, the north east etc. etc.) don't have distinct cultures. Perhaps we should not be using this almost meaningless term, and be talking about how an already diverse society should adjust to immigrants. Should immigrants from, say Poland, come to England and continue to be uniquely Polish? Should they be allowed to take all that England (or Britain) has to offer without making any adjustments to conform to what is already established, and has been for centuries?

In Canada, we don't really have that problem ... we are all immigrants (or, according to my First Nations' friends, settlers) ... our culture is multi-culture. Our Govenor General is an Haitian immigrant ... the latest Canadian soldier killed in Afghanistan was a Lebanese immigrant; his family arrived in Canada only nine years ago. Quebec is officially a "distinct society" within Canada. We need immigrants in order to grow ... you guys don't. There has always been a lot of talk here about a "Canadian identity": in other words, there is an on-going struggle to define ourselves as a nation. Brits don't have that problem, or shouldn't have, they already have a national identity, one which has developed over the centuries.

I agree, multi-culturalism is a meaningless term when used in this context.

You could have two old dears of the same genetic background. One an opera attending Dowager, and the other a bingo playing char lady. They aren't going to share much of a cultural identity.

Eric 12-03-2009 17:10

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 691699)
I agree, multi-culturalism is a meaningless term when used in this context.

You could have two old dears of the same genetic background. One an opera attending Dowager, and the other a bingo playing char lady. They aren't going to share much of a cultural identity.

I think that what we are discovering is that if one looks at buzz words and phrases closely enough, we find that they are essentially meaningless; and that they are no substiute for serious analyses and rational solutions ... they are terms used by people too lazy to think. Problem is that these terms, as they stagger aimlessly around, aquire a lot of freight which they are not really capable of carrying. For some reason, "Animal Farm" comes to mind.:confused:

garinda 12-03-2009 17:27

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 691735)
I think that what we are discovering is that if one looks at buzz words and phrases closely enough, we find that they are essentially meaningless; and that they are no substiute for serious analyses and rational solutions ... they are terms used by people too lazy to think. Problem is that these terms, as they stagger aimlessly around, aquire a lot of freight which they are not really capable of carrying. For some reason, "Animal Farm" comes to mind.:confused:

I think in this case the phrase should be multi-ethnic, rather than cultural, but that's probably deemed as offensive, but it certainly makes more sense to me.

Taggy 12-03-2009 17:43

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Multiculteralism can only work if the people who come to live here, like and respect us for who we are, and what we stand for. If they basically want to dominate, oppress or change us towards their beliefs or lifestyle ideals as indoctrined from their own countries, then it quite simply cannot ever work. We can all be different, and have varrying thoughts and values, however we have to value our Country and what it stands for. The more diverse we get, the more we stand to lose a common national identity, its not rocket science is it ?. As we think about the welcome home that certain sections of our community gave some of our soldiers recently, one begins to question what things would be like here if we get to a close on 50/50 ratio of Indigenous British and other Ethnic groups. Would these people fight for Britain for example, particularily if it came to be against countries they or their relatives formerly came from. If they would'nt then where would that leave us as a nation. Very very vunerable is the answer really. I always recall the former Cricketer and Pakistani politician Imran Khan saying during a debate, that he hopes the West wake up to whats ahead, and not to underestimate the power and influence of Islam. I took what he said quite lightly at the time. These days i'm thinking about it more and more!

Best Regards - Taggy

Eric 12-03-2009 17:50

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 691744)
I think in this case the phrase should be multi-ethnic, rather than cultural, but that's probably deemed as offensive, but it certainly makes more sense to me.

At least you stopped short of "multi-racial":eek:;)

Eric 12-03-2009 18:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 691751)
Multiculteralism can only work if the people who come to live here, like and respect us for who we are, and what we stand for. If they basically want to dominate, oppress or change us towards their beliefs or lifestyle ideals as indoctrined from their own countries, then it quite simply cannot ever work. We can all be different, and have varrying thoughts and values, however we have to value our Country and what it stands for. The more diverse we get, the more we stand to lose a common national identity, its not rocket science is it ?. As we think about the welcome home that certain sections of our community gave some of our soldiers recently, one begins to question what things would be like here if we get to a close on 50/50 ratio of Indigenous British and other Ethnic groups. Would these people fight for Britain for example, particularily if it came to be against countries they or their relatives formerly came from. If they would'nt then where would that leave us as a nation. Very very vunerable is the answer really. I always recall the former Cricketer and Pakistani politician Imran Khan saying during a debate, that he hopes the West wake up to whats ahead, and not to underestimate the power and influence of Islam. I took what he said quite lightly at the time. These days i'm thinking about it more and more!

Best Regards - Taggy

So this really isn't about multi-culturalism is it. It's about Islam, which in no way shape or form is "ethnic". And it's not really a question of "we can all be different"; "can" doesn't come into it; for we are all different. Rather than pussy foot around, why not come out with it and discuss, openly, the threat that Islam poses to the whole Western World, not only Britiain?

Concerning what Imran Khan said, I happen to agree with him; and I have made that point several times on this forum, particularly arguing that there are significant and probably irreconcilable differences in the ways that western societies developed and those forces which created Isalmic states.

West Ender 12-03-2009 18:42

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I don't make a habit of repeating myself but, on this occasion, I will say again there is a vast difference between the enhancement diverse cultures can bring to an established way of life and the positive reinforcement of "seperateness". Multiculturalism, as promoted in this country, breeds isolationism among creeds/factions. Emphasis should be placed on working for the common good of the whole country before any other consideration.

cashman 12-03-2009 18:44

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 691776)
I don't make a habit of repeating myself

Say that again.:D

West Ender 12-03-2009 18:46

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 691778)
Say that again.:D




That again. :)

MargaretR 12-03-2009 18:53

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All religions have evil side effects - but Islam seems to have more than most.
It is about time that the truth about Roswell was revealed so that people will realise that all religions are primitive myths:hidewall:

garinda 12-03-2009 19:07

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 691776)
I don't make a habit of repeating myself but, on this occasion, I will say again there is a vast difference between the enhancement diverse cultures can bring to an established way of life and the positive reinforcement of "seperateness". Multiculturalism, as promoted in this country, breeds isolationism among creeds/factions. Emphasis should be placed on working for the common good of the whole country before any other consideration.

Very true, as was what you posted earlier, about the Chinese and Jewish people who've happily been assimilated into this country's fabric for many a long year, with little or no resentment from the indigenous population, and yet they've retained their own cultural identities...without a load of interference from the busy body brigade.

Eric 12-03-2009 20:31

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 691787)
Very true, as was what you posted earlier, about the Chinese and Jewish people who've happily been assimilated into this country's fabric for many a long year, with little or no resentment from the indigenous population, and yet they've retained their own cultural identities...without a load of interference from the busy body brigade.

And the jews made it into the mainstream with everything stacked against them ... York, 1190, comes to mind ....

Mancie 12-03-2009 22:30

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Possibly the largest multi-cultural nation in the world is the USA..they have had problems but more past than present..Nazi Germany showed us what the alternatives are...and the saying "when in Rome" don't seem to apply to the British ...the British abroad have kept thier own culture...apart from Tarzan we did'nt suddenly take up wearing leapard skins and shrinking heads when we invaded Africa!

Royboy39 12-03-2009 22:36

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 691841)
The British abroad have kept their own culture

Ye, but we dont wear bearskins or fancy dress. ;)

Bagpuss 12-03-2009 22:38

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 691841)
the British abroad have kept thier own culture

But this is not about Brits abroad Mancie.

Mancie 12-03-2009 22:42

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 691845)
But this is not about Brits abroad Mancie.

I was saying that the "when in Rome" stuff is often quoted on here..but has never applied to the British.

Royboy39 12-03-2009 22:44

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 691845)
But this is not about Brits abroad Mancie.

This is what the members choose to comment on, unless the Mods think otherwise?

cashman 12-03-2009 22:55

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 691841)
Possibly the largest multi-cultural nation in the world is the USA..they have had problems but more past than present..Nazi Germany showed us what the alternatives are...and the saying "when in Rome" don't seem to apply to the British ...the British abroad have kept thier own culture...apart from Tarzan we did'nt suddenly take up wearing leapard skins and shrinking heads when we invaded Africa!

the usa has problems now, with nazi brigades etc, had major problems not too far back with the Klan,but all that is irrelevant, to whats going on in this country at the moment, problems or not, the yanks have never treated these people like "Noddy In Toyland" they tend not to tolerate like the lemons here.

Mancie 12-03-2009 23:07

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When saying "these people" Cashy I assume you mean the protesters at Luton? but that incident by a very few does not go to say we should start biulding barracades ...there has to be a line drawn when a foreign culture attempts to manipulate custome and laws to force their own standards on us agreed..\i reckon the Klan in America is more of a racial problem than cultural and that maybe something we sometimes get mixed up.. culture not race..apart from that I can't see any alternative other than accept a multicultural society...we already have one!

cashman 12-03-2009 23:11

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 691850)
When saying "these people" Cashy I assume you mean the protesters at Luton? but that incident by a very few does not go to say we should start biulding barracades ...there has to be a line drawn when a foreign culture attempts to manipulate custome and laws to force their own standards on us agreed..apart from that I can't see any alternative other than accept a multicultural society...we already have one!

that comment i agree with completely, but the government should get off the pot n sort these people out good style.

Royboy39 12-03-2009 23:13

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I have tonight watched a video clip of Afghan Nationals in Calais trying by whatever means to get into the UK to claim political asylum and reside in a safe haven.
France are in the EEU but they are considering setting up transit camps for these people who I feel sure the UK does not want....why do France not deport them or allow asylum.
Are we a soft touch? It would be rather interesting to hear from elected councillors and political gurus on this subject?

BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Migrants try to enter UK from Calais

Mancie 12-03-2009 23:26

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Watching that clip I get the impression that the French have a bigger problem than here.

cashman 12-03-2009 23:43

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 691856)
Watching that clip I get the impression that the French have a bigger problem than here.

the french are helping get here in my eyes, providing em with soup kitchens n a camp, until they can jump in the back of a lorry n get the driver prosecuted if caught wi em.

garinda 12-03-2009 23:48

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 691841)
...the British abroad have kept thier own culture...apart from Tarzan we did'nt suddenly take up wearing leapard skins and shrinking heads when we invaded Africa!

I think those colonial ideas died out when the sun set on the British Empire.

Apart from a few places in Spain, which have enclaves of immigrants from quite a few northern European countries, and therefore stick in their own communities, most Brits who emigrate now have to assimilate in whichever country they've decided to move to. Be it Australia, Canada or Dubai. They adapt to the cultural idenity of their host country, but are still proud of their British roots.

cashman 12-03-2009 23:54

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theres a world of difference between keeping yer own culture n trying to IMPOSE it on the nationals, this minority cos thats what they are, are doing no good what so ever fer the ordinary moslems that just wanna get on wi life.:(

Mancie 12-03-2009 23:56

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 691860)
the french are helping get here in my eyes, providing em with soup kitchens n a camp, until they can jump in the back of a lorry n get the driver prosecuted if caught wi em.

I don't blame the French... to be honest I would like to see a video of illegal immagrants trying to jump on lorries in Dover bound for France!..maybe it will happen soon. ;)

cashman 12-03-2009 23:58

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 691870)
I don't blame the French... to be honest I would like to see a video of illegal immagrants trying to jump on lorries in Dover bound for France!..maybe it will happen soon. ;)

never happen mancie i reckon, too many sweeteners here.:(

garinda 13-03-2009 00:02

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 691869)
theres a world of difference between keeping yer own culture n trying to IMPOSE it on the nationals, this minority cos thats what they are, are doing no good what so ever fer the ordinary moslems that just wanna get on wi life.:(

That's very true. Most of the Muslims I know are content living in the community.

Happily it's only a minority, much like other religious minorities, who likewise try to force their beliefs on you, that are trying to attack and change the democrcy we enjoy in Britain.

I'll fight that small minority until I breathe my last breath.

I'd rather die doing that than for them to win, and for me to be strung up in some football stadium.

Mancie 13-03-2009 00:04

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 691872)
never happen mancie i reckon, too many sweeteners here.:(

Well seems that way.. but I thought any sweeteners were applied to the whole of the EU?... do illegal immagrants get more here than the rest of the EU?.. or is it just the fact that Britian is more attractive to these people because of our self proclaimed nation of freedom and tolerance?

garinda 13-03-2009 00:04

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 691870)
I don't blame the French... to be honest I would like to see a video of illegal immagrants trying to jump on lorries in Dover bound for France!..maybe it will happen soon. ;)

They do already....but sadly they come back when they've bought enough booze to bring back and flog.:D

cashman 13-03-2009 00:13

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The bottom line here is these fanatics feed n make the B.N.P. stronger, n the Big Guns in politics are to dumb to see it.:(

garinda 13-03-2009 00:22

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 691875)
Well seems that way.. but I thought any sweeteners were applied to the whole of the EU?... do illegal immagrants get more here than the rest of the EU?.. or is it just the fact that Britian is more attractive to these people because of our self proclaimed nation of freedom and tolerance?

'According to the Red Cross, barely 1-2% apply for asylum in France. For the rest, Britain is Eldorado, where the streets are paved with gold'

'What, then, is the attraction? First, unlike in France or Germany, refugees who reach Britain instantly acquire the effective status of asylum seeker. While they wait for their cases to be examined, a lengthy process that gives them every chance to disappear, they are housed and fed and given Ł35 a week, including Ł25 in vouchers to be exchanged in the shops.
Then, after six months in the country, they can apply for a work permit. But they can easily find work without a permit, because the black economy in Britain is worth some Ł80bn a year - four times the size of France's. There is no penalty for an employer who hires an illegal immigrant.'

'Ultimately, only one in 40 illegal immigrants to Britain is repatriated.
Better treatment aside, perhaps the most appealing aspect of life in Britain is its lack of that continental institution, the national identity card. In Britain, nobody has the right to ask you for your papers unless they suspect you of having committed an offence. You can live and work in Britain without the constant fear of a tap on the shoulder.'

Why refugees prefer Britain to France | World news | guardian.co.uk

Mancie 13-03-2009 00:33

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well one things for sure the BNP do not have a multicutural policy for Britain.. before they evolved from the NF they were more about the race/colour in Britian..these days hopefuly most people see hardly any cutural difference between black,white,asian etc so it boils down to religion and very different standards.

Mancie 13-03-2009 00:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 691881)
'According to the Red Cross, barely 1-2% apply for asylum in France. For the rest, Britain is Eldorado, where the streets are paved with gold'

'What, then, is the attraction? First, unlike in France or Germany, refugees who reach Britain instantly acquire the effective status of asylum seeker. While they wait for their cases to be examined, a lengthy process that gives them every chance to disappear, they are housed and fed and given Ł35 a week, including Ł25 in vouchers to be exchanged in the shops.


Why refugees prefer Britain to France | World news | guardian.co.uk

How can you disappear when you get Ł35 +Ł25 from the Government?..are you saying they still get this payment?.. if so then I can't see how they are not tracked..the mexican geezer did not get the status of asylum..
http://www.partypants.co.uk/hats/som...exican-hat.jpg

garinda 13-03-2009 00:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 691884)
How can you disappear when you get Ł35 +Ł25 from the Government?..are you saying they still get this payment?.. if so then I can't see how you are not tracked.

I'm not saying, the Guardian is.

Though if people disappear to work illegally they won't be getting benefits, and so won't be traceable.

Mancie 13-03-2009 00:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 691884)
How can you disappear when you get Ł35 +Ł25 from the Government?..are you saying they still get this payment?.. if so then I can't see how they are not tracked..the mexican geezer did not get the status of asylum..
http://www.partypants.co.uk/hats/som...exican-hat.jpg

Soz for the edit..but I reckon the mainland of Europe have a bigger problem with Immagrants than we do... that don't make it better here but I do have the inkling that we do proclaim ourselves as the Nation of tolerance and a refuge for all ..... do you think we should cahnge our stance?

cashman 13-03-2009 00:54

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well i certainly think we should.

Benipete 13-03-2009 01:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 691875)
Well seems that way.. but I thought any sweeteners were applied to the whole of the EU?... do illegal immagrants get more here than the rest of the EU?.. or is it just the fact that Britian is more attractive to these people because of our self proclaimed nation of freedom and tolerance?

All of the European Union live by the same rules :D allegedly.Trouble is we stick by them and the rest of Europe pick and choose. The bits that they like they keep and the ones they don't they ignore.

Our gov.ministers let them get away with it :mad: We, like it or not are the laughing stock of Europe,all the Europeans I know and there are many think we have all gone soft.

They could well be right.:confused::confused::confused::confused:

Mancie 13-03-2009 01:51

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I do not believe we are the laughing stock of europe... there is someway that we seem to volunteer to put ourselves down... it maybe time to think of the whole country as a force in europe and the rest of the world..but the dread brigade like to sit on the past and talk themselves into a rotten Britian...according to most posts on here we are done..beaten... but then you are coffin dodgers!

Eric 13-03-2009 03:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 691896)
I do not believe we are the laughing stock of europe... there is someway that we seem to volunteer to put ourselves down... it maybe time to think of the whole country as a force in europe and the rest of the world..but the dread brigade like to sit on the past and talk themselves into a rotten Britian...according to most posts on here we are done..beaten... but then you are coffin dodgers!

I agree with some of what you say .... but the coffin dodgers aren't the threat .... think about it, we all know what the threat is; and I think that is the point of the whole thread.

Taggy 13-03-2009 09:21

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Yes the problem is the way that Islam appears to allow for the growth of extreamists, and because they basically try to operate under the banner of Islam nobody feels safe in directly critisizing this. Is the Islamic culture as a whole, capable of co-existing or perhaps playing "second fiddle" in a Country with a totally different culture base? Or is it a culture that has to be the dominant force. Most other cultures seem to be able to tolerate diversity in quite a good way, i'm really not sure that Islam or the way some interpret Islam does. Again, one should question why Britain seems so popular to them. Surely, on the face of it other countries such as Spain, Italy, Portugal, Greece, Turkey would appear to offer them a more familiar lifestyle base than we do in Britain, yet they are drawn to us as if by a giant magnet! We've basically had a near on open door policy for far to long, and its going to bite us on the Bum!! Part of it may indeed be our own problem because our our Island Nation status, but at the end of the day it is Our Island, and we've a right to express our thoughts and fears. We've always been wary of invasion, and thats perhaps what we are frightened of now...Invasion By Stealth!! Perhaps certain people, many politicians included are rather indifferent to this situation, maybe because they are isolated from any other culture than their own, for much of their day to day lives. I think its fair to say that we, in this part of Lancashire, have our fingers on the pulse, a little bit more than they have, and can perhaps see things now, that others will only start to see in years to come. Yes Multiculturalism is certainly here now, but does it work, and is it likely to work in the future in this Country? We live closely together around here, but in all honesty do we really mix with each other, relate to each other, spend a great deal of time with each other, by choice? Or are we too different?.

Best Regards - Taggy

Royboy39 13-03-2009 10:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 691896)
I do not believe we are the laughing stock of europe... there is someway that we seem to volunteer to put ourselves down... it maybe time to think of the whole country as a force in europe and the rest of the world..but the dread brigade like to sit on the past and talk themselves into a rotten Britian...according to most posts on here we are done..beaten... but then you are coffin dodgers!

Maybe......but not dead from the neck up. ;)

jaysay 13-03-2009 10:18

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According to figures released by the United Nations, Britain is heading to become Europe's biggest population,

Its envisaged that annual net populations migration for he period 2010-2050 will be

USA 1,1m
Canada 214,000
GB 174,000
Spain 170,000
Italy 159,00
Germany 110,000
Austria 100,000
France 100,000

The most crowded country in Europe with people per Square Km are:-

England 395
Holland 393
Belgium 341
Germany 232
Italy 195
Luxembourg 177
Czech Rep 129
Denmark 126
Poland 118
Portugal 114
France 111

Looks like this little country of ours is getting just a bit crowded to say the least, we've got to draw a line somewhere or the bloody place will sink:(

Eric 13-03-2009 15:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 691943)
According to figures released by the United Nations, Britain is heading to become Europe's biggest population,

Its envisaged that annual net populations migration for he period 2010-2050 will be

USA 1,1m
Canada 214,000
GB 174,000
Spain 170,000
Italy 159,00
Germany 110,000
Austria 100,000
France 100,000

The most crowded country in Europe with people per Square Km are:-

England 395
Holland 393
Belgium 341
Germany 232
Italy 195
Luxembourg 177
Czech Rep 129
Denmark 126
Poland 118
Portugal 114
France 111

Looks like this little country of ours is getting just a bit crowded to say the least, we've got to draw a line somewhere or the bloody place will sink:(

Canada: 3.2 per sq. km. :D That's why we are so friendly; we rarely bump into one another;)

jaysay 13-03-2009 16:12

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Looks Like there's more chance of bumping into a Grizzly than another human being Eric:D:dancedog::dancedog:

Eric 13-03-2009 16:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 692034)
Looks Like there's more chance of bumping into a Grizzly than another human being Eric:D:dancedog::dancedog:

You know, in some parts of this big, beautiful country of ours this is true:)

However, I am surprised that GB will have that density of population ... I remeber when I was being force-fed geography at Accy Grammar, that the Netherlands had by far the most people per sq. mile. Is the increase in population all due to immigration? Or are the native brits having more kids?

jaysay 13-03-2009 16:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 692042)
You know, in some parts of this big, beautiful country of ours this is true:)

However, I am surprised that GB will have that density of population ... I remeber when I was being force-fed geography at Accy Grammar, that the Netherlands had by far the most people per sq. mile. Is the increase in population all due to immigration? Or are the native brits having more kids?

A bit of both Eric, but at the rate people are queuing up in France for a chance to come to our Green and Pleasant land may have more to do with it than anything else :(

Eric 13-03-2009 16:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 692044)
A bit of both Eric, but at the rate people are queuing up in France for a chance to come to our Green and Pleasant land may have more to do with it than anything else :(

Green and pleasant! With all those folks walking on the grass:eek: Maybe Nancy Reagan's formula would work in this case: When it comes to more immigration; just say "no". It's your damn country for pete's sake. And there is a simple solution to this "open door" policy .... shut the bloody door:mosher:

garinda 13-03-2009 17:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 692042)
You know, in some parts of this big, beautiful country of ours this is true:)

However, I am surprised that GB will have that density of population ... I remeber when I was being force-fed geography at Accy Grammar, that the Netherlands had by far the most people per sq. mile. Is the increase in population all due to immigration? Or are the native brits having more kids?

They've reclaimed a lot more of the Zeider Zee since you were at school.

Thus increasing the amount of space each person has to park their clogs on.;):D

Eric 13-03-2009 17:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 692058)
They've reclaimed a lot more of the Zeider Zee since you were at school.

Thus increasing the amount of space each person has to park their clogs on.;):D

Makes sense .... so, if you bulldoze the Pennines and fill in the Lake District ...... :eek:

And I'm infernally grateful that you didn't mention other things that have happened since I was at school; like the extinction of the dinosaurs .......;)

garinda 13-03-2009 17:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 692062)
Makes sense .... so, if you bulldoze the Pennines and fill in the Lake District ...... :eek:

And I'm infernally grateful that you didn't mention other things that have happened since I was at school; like the extinction of the dinosaurs .......;)

I wouldn't dream of being so rude.:eek:

(I think I'd better not mention another shocking piece of news just yet.)

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/greavesan...modernday.jpeg

:D

Royboy39 13-03-2009 17:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 692042)
You know, in some parts of this big, beautiful country of ours this is true:)

However, I am surprised that GB will have that density of population ... I remeber when I was being force-fed geography at Accy Grammar, that the Netherlands had by far the most people per sq. mile. Is the increase in population all due to immigration? Or are the native brits having more kids?

Yes to the first part, a family made up of two members very soon becomes a family of sixteen or twenty when both parents are allowed to visit along with siblings from both sides and breeding begins in earnest.
20 years = 150 extended family............easy. :)

jaysay 13-03-2009 18:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy 39 (Post 692069)
Yes to the first part, a family made up of two members very soon becomes a family of sixteen or twenty when both parents are allowed to visit along with siblings from both sides and breeding begins in earnest.
20 years = 150 extended family............easy. :)

Well if you put it that way Roy, Its simplicity itself even:rolleyes: why do the powers that be think of it that way:confused: and these people are supposed to be educated, mind you when you've got a guy in the cabinet called Balls what do you expect:D

Stumped 13-03-2009 18:43

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Well, I've certainly stirred up a hornets nest with this well meant debate. Interesting to get so many diverse points of view on what I feel will become a major point of focus in the next general election campaign. Tolerance has always been a recognised facet of the British nature, but boy oh boy, we are surely being sorely tested at the moment!

Regards, etc . . . Stumped.

jaysay 13-03-2009 18:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 692089)
Well, I've certainly stirred up a hornets nest with this well meant debate. Interesting to get so many diverse points of view on what I feel will become a major point of focus in the next general election campaign. Tolerance has always been a recognised facet of the British nature, but boy oh boy, we are surely being sorely tested at the moment!

Regards, etc . . . Stumped.

Well Stumps your spot on on mate, but isn't that what Accy Web is all about seeking other peoples opinions, its just a pity that these type of forums have only just come to the fore, beats the hell out of writing letters to the local press then waiting a week for people to reply, I feel a song coming on "Instant replay" or better still instant reply:mosher:

Stumped 14-03-2009 19:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 692093)
Well Stumps your spot on on mate, but isn't that what Accy Web is all about seeking other peoples opinions, its just a pity that these type of forums have only just come to the fore, beats the hell out of writing letters to the local press then waiting a week for people to reply, I feel a song coming on "Instant replay" or better still instant reply:mosher:

The Accy Site is indeed a brilliant forum for venting one's spleen. Let's just hope that our local politico's sit up and take notice - and maybe think very carefully before taking any decision to rename old Accrington Streets in accordance with muslim wishes.
Reckon I should give my soapbox a rest for a while now - the hornets are beginning to sting!

Royboy39 14-03-2009 21:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 692510)
The Accy Site is indeed a brilliant forum for venting one's spleen. Let's just hope that our local politico's sit up and take notice - and maybe think very carefully before taking any decision to rename old Accrington Streets in accordance with muslim wishes.
Reckon I should give my soapbox a rest for a while now - the hornets are beginning to sting!

Dont go yet Stumped.....some nutter thinks we are going to be invaded with plastic ducks:confused:
If you come across one in Accy or Ossy give Rindy a shout...he has a pond.
If you go to Blackpool keep look out for them....If you find 'Robinson' on one and 'Crusoe' on the other you have won the jackpot....three pints of that loony broth that prompted this nonsense. :rolleyes:

Stumped 15-03-2009 17:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 692542)
Dont go yet Stumped.....some nutter thinks we are going to be invaded with plastic ducks:confused:
If you come across one in Accy or Ossy give Rindy a shout...he has a pond.
If you go to Blackpool keep look out for them....If you find 'Robinson' on one and 'Crusoe' on the other you have won the jackpot....three pints of that loony broth that prompted this nonsense. :rolleyes:

I spotted one in my grandson's bath. Tried to drown it, but the dratted creature just told me to cluck off!

steeljack 16-03-2009 04:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 692510)
- and maybe think very carefully before taking any decision to rename old Accrington Streets in accordance with muslim wishes.

what proposals (if any) have been put forward ? :confused: :confused:

any local councillors know anything about any such proposals ? :confused:

garinda 16-03-2009 09:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 692853)
what proposals (if any) have been put forward ? :confused: :confused:

any local councillors know anything about any such proposals ? :confused:

According to last weekend's Observer changing the names of the streets to reflect the Asian background of some of the residents, was one of the proposals in ‘Welcome to West Accrington – a handbook of ideas’, which was commissioned by H.B.C.

It isn't on the Observer website yet, but the launch was featured in the Telegraph.

Man-made hill idea to brighten up Accrington (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Bye bye Persia Steet, hello Islamabad Way.

Neil 16-03-2009 10:46

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I like this comment on that page Gary

Quote:

workaholic, Accrington says...
7:47pm Wed 18 Feb 09
Hello - I am Vietnamese man offering help to grow large plantation of sweet smelling flowers on this hill! I have plenty of experience of cultivation in old derelict buildings and empty pubs and takeaway shops. Can offer council contribution when crop grown and plants make good medicine for arthritic pensioners!

SPUGGIE J 16-03-2009 16:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 692904)
According to last weekend's Observer changing the names of the streets to reflect the Asian background of some of the residents, was one of the proposals in ‘Welcome to West Accrington – a handbook of ideas’, which was commissioned by H.B.C.

It isn't on the Observer website yet, but the launch was featured in the Telegraph.

Man-made hill idea to brighten up Accrington (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Bye bye Persia Steet, hello Islamabad Way.

Ah well that means I wont get funny looks when I say I am of up south central Bangladesh to visit my aunt. ;)

Eric 16-03-2009 18:33

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Naming streets to reflect the heritage of immigrants .... mmm, we did it here in Kingston: King Street, Queen Street, Victoria Street, Albert Street, Nelson Street, Churchill Street (also Churchill Cr., and Winston Churchill School), Queen Elizabeth High School, Balaclava Street, Wellington Street, Waterloo sub-division ... don't cause any probs. Of course, we do have a Mohawk Pl., Arrowhead St., Algonquin Terrace, to placate the people who used to own the land.:rolleyes:

Neil 16-03-2009 21:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 693020)
Naming streets to reflect the heritage of immigrants .... mmm, we did it here in Kingston: King Street, Queen Street, Victoria Street, Albert Street, Nelson Street, Churchill Street (also Churchill Cr., and Winston Churchill School), Queen Elizabeth High School, Balaclava Street, Wellington Street, Waterloo sub-division ... don't cause any probs. Of course, we do have a Mohawk Pl., Arrowhead St., Algonquin Terrace, to placate the people who used to own the land.:rolleyes:

Maybe soon the people who own this land will change so it will be ok :rolleyes:

Royboy39 16-03-2009 21:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 693071)
Maybe soon the people who own this land will change so it will be ok :rolleyes:

Do we know who own's the land or are we not quite sure? :rolleyes:

Mancie 17-03-2009 05:59

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Just been down my local **** shop.. no problems and why would I expect any but for this website..

Gordie 17-03-2009 15:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K-P (Post 691692)
I was wondering why poeple are getting upset at the thought when it doesnt even effect them..

Personally I am 100% for multi-culturalism in any country. I don't believe any human being should be restricted based on skin colour or birth place.

I was told many years ago that if this country threw out all the none english and the rest of the world sent back the english.. we wouldnt be able to cope. we wouldn't have enough room.

Where do you get the notion from that multi-culturalism doesnt effect them ? try telling the familys of returning soldiers,try telling familys looking for inner city housing,try telling familys whos members have been killed while traveling on public transport,etc etc what planet are you living on:mosher:

Gordie 17-03-2009 15:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 693020)
Naming streets to reflect the heritage of immigrants .... mmm, we did it here in Kingston: King Street, Queen Street, Victoria Street, Albert Street, Nelson Street, Churchill Street (also Churchill Cr., and Winston Churchill School), Queen Elizabeth High School, Balaclava Street, Wellington Street, Waterloo sub-division ... don't cause any probs. Of course, we do have a Mohawk Pl., Arrowhead St., Algonquin Terrace, to placate the people who used to own the land.:rolleyes:

You will be listing every street in Canada next

Gordie 17-03-2009 15:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 692904)
According to last weekend's Observer changing the names of the streets to reflect the Asian background of some of the residents, was one of the proposals in ‘Welcome to West Accrington – a handbook of ideas’, which was commissioned by H.B.C.

It isn't on the Observer website yet, but the launch was featured in the Telegraph.

Man-made hill idea to brighten up Accrington (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Bye bye Persia Steet, hello Islamabad Way.

I would have thought from many of your past posts Noris or is it Doris, that you would be in favour of this suggestion.:D

garinda 17-03-2009 15:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 693319)
I would have thought from many of your past posts Noris or is it Doris, that you would be in favour of this suggestion.:D

Well as so often, you'd have been wrong.;)

jaysay 17-03-2009 15:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 693322)
Well as so often, you'd have been wrong.;)

Oh its back Rindi:eek::eek::eek: thought he'd seen the light and joined a monastery, but alas not

blazey 17-03-2009 16:03

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I'd be saddened if we started purging multi-culturalism from britain. It has provided me with a fascinating education and I still ensure I get to study many cultures during my degree even though I don't have to study anything but English law if I don't want to.

I have many friends from all over the world, particular EU member states but some from outside the EU too and I go to a University with a vast variety of cultural links with some extremely intelligent students and lecturers coming on exchange and placement to bring some of their experiences and knowledge to the University. One of the most popular departments at Lancaster University is the Management School which is consistently ranked one of the top 5 in the world and its a brilliant talking point for students of all disciplines as it runs a lot of extra-curricular modules taught by various lecturers from all over the globe about current global-business issues, which provide the commercial awareness which is necessary for ALL graduate jobs.

I would lose some amazing lecturers if we lost the cultures and I'd lose a lot of brilliant friends. If I wanted to live under fascist governance I'd vote for the BNP. Fortunately I have some sense, if not much according to some people.

blazey 17-03-2009 16:09

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Multi-culturalism doesn't kill soldiers, weapons do and from what I have gathered from television and talking to armed forces reps at careers fairs, you are informed of the risks of being killed before you join them.

I also think that whilst its sad that soldiers die so young in the army, a lot of the pride of being in the forces has been lost in this day and age. It would seem actually that the army advertises mostly to the low achievers at schools and pulls them in at a young age.

If anything is bad its the army itself but then humanity as a whole isn't much better. If it was a bit better then maybe NOBODY would be murdered by another human being.

I'm not anti-war though because I see it as necessary considering humanity and its attitudes towards other people in different countries and such, but I'd obviously much rather we all just got along and lost all the prejudice and stuff.

garinda 17-03-2009 16:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blazey (Post 693336)

I also think that whilst its sad that soldiers die so young in the army, a lot of the pride of being in the forces has been lost in this day and age. It would seem actually that the army advertises mostly to the low achievers at schools and pulls them in at a young age.

All three forces also target the top universities in the land, in the hope of attracting the creme de la creme, for the many positions that require the right caliber of people.

I do hope the fact that you haven't come across this recruitment drive, means they haven't written off Lancaster as a place of under achievers.

:D

blazey 17-03-2009 16:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 693347)
All three forces also target the top universities in the land, in the hope of attracting the creme de la creme, for the many positions that require the right caliber of people.

I do hope the fact that you haven't come across this recruitment drive, means they haven't written off Lancaster as a place of under achievers.

:D

They target freshers fair but they don't hold their own talks to students. Didn't I mention in a thread recently that I spoke to the armed forces? Can't remember why I mentioned that though.

blazey 17-03-2009 16:52

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Though as an afterthought, I don't just go to Lancaster's careers fairs. Northern universities are generally poorly targeted by a lot of companies. Lots of them admit this themselves, shame really.

I went to London on saturday for a law fair, but then I am crazy.

Eric 17-03-2009 17:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 693316)
You will be listing every street in Canada next

I already did ... didn't you notice our population density:eek:

garinda 17-03-2009 17:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blazey (Post 693362)
Northern universities are generally poorly targeted by a lot of companies.

Depending on the course you'll find graduates from both York and Durham, and Manchester to some extent, are eagerly targeted by employers. Certainly more so than at southern universities such as those found in Brighton or Bournmouth.

There isn't really a north/south or old/redbrick, when it comes to employer's more favoured universtities, alhough of course Oxbridge colleges does attract more attention. It really does depend on the course, and of course grades.

blazey 17-03-2009 17:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 693367)
Depending on the course you'll find graduates from both York and Durham, and Manchester to some extent, are eagerly targeted by employers. Certainly more so than at southern universities such as those found in Brighton or Bournmouth.

There isn't really a north/south or old/redbrick, when it comes to employer's more favoured universtities, alhough of course Oxbridge colleges does attract more attention. It really does depend on the course, and of course grades.


Well the management school here is heavily targeted because its the highest ranked in the country.

Generally though, northern uni's aren't targeted unless they have a strong department that they want people from.

Eric 17-03-2009 17:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 693316)
You will be listing every street in Canada next

And, by the way, Neil and Royboy got the point of the post ... but it seems to have gone over your head, way over.:rolleyes:

Royboy39 17-03-2009 18:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blazey (Post 693336)
Multi-culturalism doesn't kill soldiers, weapons do and from what I have gathered from television and talking to armed forces reps at careers fairs, you are informed of the risks of being killed before you join them.

I also think that whilst its sad that soldiers die so young in the army, a lot of the pride of being in the forces has been lost in this day and age. It would seem actually that the army advertises mostly to the low achievers at schools and pulls them in at a young age.

Way off the mark......Army: Engineers, Bridge Builders, Radar Plotters, Artisans of all trades, Chefs, Technical Stores Controllers and many more.
RAF: Pilots, Airframe Engineers, Plotters, Navigators and many more.
Navy: Dummies cant control bloody big things that they've got.
There are even lawyers in all the services.
Your opinion sometimes sucks Blazey....you have a lot of reading to do. :)

Gordie 18-03-2009 19:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 693325)
Oh its back Rindi:eek::eek::eek: thought he'd seen the light and joined a monastery, but alas not

I see Noris or is it Doris has the side kick jaysay with his hand bag ready to swing.Bet you dont talk to your poodle this way :eek::eek::eek::D

Gordie 18-03-2009 20:09

Re: Multiculteral Britain - A No,No?
 
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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 693392)
And, by the way, Neil and Royboy got the point of the post ... but it seems to have gone over your head, way over.:rolleyes:

Your a mind reader now are you.:rolleyes: Neil and Roy got it but you didnt :dummy2::dummy2:
Go and shoot your dinner :rolleyes:


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