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Restless 15-10-2009 06:50

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 753655)
Only the ones you could buy in the bottom end of Clayton;):D

haha. Those clayton park 'steak and pepper' pies are the best pies out there

jaysay 15-10-2009 09:25

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 753668)
haha. Those clayton park 'steak and pepper' pies are the best pies out there

They'll hve to be good to be better than Martins in Ossy:D:mosher:

MargaretR 15-10-2009 11:53

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The last Hollands pie I ate (and I won't be eating any more)
contained a piece of pale yellow 'tube' about 1cm long and 1/2cm wide.
I concluded that this most likely some sort of unusual offal not normally eaten

Restless 15-10-2009 12:44

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mmmmmmMMM are you telling me margaret you dont like pale yellow tube pies?

jaysay, i haven't tried martin's pies

jaysay 15-10-2009 15:40

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 753770)
mmmmmmMMM are you telling me margaret you dont like pale yellow tube pies?

jaysay, i haven't tried martin's pies

You don't know what your missing Restless:mosher:

Bagpuss 15-10-2009 22:14

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Shut up about bloody pies and watch this.
YouTube - EDL & WDL: Judgement day London October 31st

steeljack 16-10-2009 05:05

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wonder how many ethnics/minorities do stuff like this ...
Carnage: Shame of drunken student caught urinating on war memorial during mass pub crawl | Mail Online
an example of the cream of "British" youth

Restless 16-10-2009 06:50

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 753953)
Shut up about bloody pies and watch this.
YouTube - EDL & WDL: Judgement day London October 31st



screw that bullsheeet

PIES PIES PIES!!!

lets all forget about race and relgion and hatred. Lets all get together and make a nice...........






































Multiculteral PIE

MargaretR 16-10-2009 09:40

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I pefer intergalactic pie myself ;)

Benipete 16-10-2009 09:48

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 754024)
I pefer intergalactic pie myself ;)

Or space cake?:D

jaysay 16-10-2009 10:01

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 754027)
Or space cake?:D

Is that a bit of an animal too Beni:D

MargaretR 16-10-2009 10:03

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 754035)
Is that a bit of an animal too Beni:D

It does include 'ambrosia of the gods' - not yet available in ASDA ;)

Bagpuss 16-10-2009 10:03

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 753989)
wonder how many ethnics/minorities do stuff like this ...
Carnage: Shame of drunken student caught urinating on war memorial during mass pub crawl | Mail Online
an example of the cream of "British" youth

Good point, he should be made to pay using BRITISH LAW because he is British and committed the crime in Britian, the video I posted shows that we are allowing a march in our own country that will cause trouble, a march that is a protest on our rules by a group hell bent on trying to impose their own laws, if this is multiculturism then stuff it.:mad:

MargaretR 16-10-2009 10:06

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You will stop bothering about being invaded by asians when 'Martians' and Venusians' knock on your door :D

Bagpuss 16-10-2009 10:08

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 753991)
screw that bullsheeet

You're so full of it bullsheeet once again, open your eyes this is not about different people getting on together this is about trying to take over and the thing is idiots like you would allow it.

jaysay 16-10-2009 10:24

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 754036)
It does include 'ambrosia of the gods' - not yet available in ASDA ;)

Ain't seen it in Tesco either Margaret:D

MargaretR 16-10-2009 10:29

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 754043)
Ain't seen it in Tesco either Margaret:D

I got 'no takers' on my request for seeds either:(

Bagpuss 16-10-2009 10:35

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And you wonder why people are voting more and more for right wing parties because you pie eaters are doing just what our leaders in Parliament are and ignoring what is happening in front of your eyes, hoping it will all just go away if no one talks about it. Why does it take members from across the water to see it and comment while you just prattle on about pies.

MargaretR 16-10-2009 10:42

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To some of us, pies are more important

Restless 16-10-2009 11:54

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just having fun bagpuss....

edit: i don't mean to be offensive towards you bagpuss. if you are not a racist and you are just against mass immigration. Thats ok. But you're comments are too blunt. and some comments from people just come across as being racist, and I am a bad judgement of telling the difference....

as for pies... i am quite fond of chicken tikka pies

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 754039)
You're so full of it bullsheeet once again, open your eyes this is not about different people getting on together this is about trying to take over and the thing is idiots like you would allow it.

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 754027)
Or space cake?

had quite a few of these in my youth.. :D

MargaretR 16-10-2009 12:06

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 754075)

had quite a few of these in my youth.. :D

Would they be those mushroom pies made from the crop harvested near Belthorn by the Hippie Convoy in the 70s?

Restless 16-10-2009 12:07

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 754081)
Would they be those mushroom pies made from the crop harvested near Belthorn by the Hippie Convoy in the 70s?

well since i was born in 1978 i doubt it.

They were crammed full of cannabis. Lots of it hehe. I don't touch cannabis anymore, makes me paranoid

Since we have somehow turned this into a drugs subject hehe. Both times i had mushrooms, we got them from st christophers school field, the one at the far back. I think perhaps this opened my mind to not being a racist person filled with hate.
Or its perhaps when i fallen over as a child and landed in a mixture of glass and snow and cut my hand badly. Blood was everywhere and i was really young and crying. A pakistani guy found me, helped my from the ground and carried me home

MargaretR 16-10-2009 12:11

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 754086)
well since i was born in 1978 i doubt it.

They were crammed full of cannabis. Lots of it hehe. I don't touch cannabis anymore, makes me paranoid

I once had a small bag of mushrooms stored in my freezer for a friend.
They aren't illegal until they are processed (dried)
.....didn't have the guts to ask to sample them - life is surreal enough without adding to it:D

Restless 16-10-2009 12:14

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you know margaret bill hicks once said in his comedy act...

Three weeks ago two of my friends and I went to a ranch in Fredericksburg, Texas, and took what Terence McKenna calls "a heroic dose." Five dried grams. Let me tell you, our third eye was squeegeed quite cleanly. Wow! And I'm glad they're against the law, 'cause you know what happened when I took 'em? I laid in a field of green grass for four hours, going "My God, I love everything." The heavens parted, God looked down and rained gifts of forgiveness onto my being, healing me on every level, psychically, physically, emotionally. And I realized our true nature is spirit, not body, that we are eternal beings, and God's love is unconditional 'n' there's nothing we can ever do to change that. It is only our illusion that we are separate from God, or that we are alone. In fact the reality is we are one with God and He loves us. Now, if that isn't a hazard to this country..


some people will probally think this belongs in life's topic. Perhaps we can get this topic moved to anything goes where it belongs

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 754090)
I once had a small bag of mushrooms stored in my freezer for a friend.
They aren't illegal until they are processed (dried)
.....didn't have the guts to ask to sample them - life is surreal enough without adding to it:D


MargaretR 16-10-2009 12:19

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I am trying to achieve that without 'rooms - will let you know if I make it;)

Bagpuss 16-10-2009 12:20

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 754075)
just having fun bagpuss....

edit: i don't mean to be offensive towards you bagpuss. if you are not a racist and you are just against mass immigration. Thats ok. But you're comments are too blunt. and some comments from people just come across as being racist, and I am a bad judgement of telling the difference....

Please feel free to be offensive towards me because some members do see me as a racist so I must be:rolleyes:

I am willing but not enthusiastic to accept a multicultural Britain in a small way but what is happening at the moment is an invasion by eastern Europeans who are taking over our homes, jobs, schools ect ect. This cannot be allowed to continue the doors have to be closed now.

Then we are being attacked by the muslims, I accept that it's not all muslims, who want to impose their laws onto us, again this must not be allowed to happen, this march in London at the end of October should not be allowed to take place, we are too soft in this country and recent posts in this thread show what I'm talking about.:(

Restless 16-10-2009 12:21

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 754096)
I am trying to achieve that without 'rooms - will let you know if I make it

yes hehe. I thought with your beliefs that you may of had plenty of them.. why i posted it :) just kiddin

MargaretR 16-10-2009 12:25

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 754099)
yes hehe. I thought with your beliefs that you may of had plenty of them.. why i posted it :) just kiddin

The human conciousness can do it without using 2 dimentional vegetable matter
Now that is surreal too - maybe I should ration how much I say in any day

BERNADETTE 16-10-2009 12:28

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The way I see it, we have laws here that have been adequate for centuries. Why do we need sharia law? We don't but slowly but surely it is being introduced into this country. We don't need sharia law but tough we are getting it.

Restless 16-10-2009 12:36

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No chance that we will have sharia law thatwill happen only if england became a muslim state, which will never happen. Perhapas a modified version intergrated with english laws to give muslims religious freedom that doesn't inflict on freedom's of non muslims... if that makes sense

First people you would have to feel sorry for is homosexuals, since from what i have heard of sharia law its not allowed and in muslim countries the result is the death penalty

BERNADETTE 16-10-2009 12:41

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But why do we need any sharia law? Our laws have been adequate for yonks so why do we need to integrate them with any other laws?

Restless 16-10-2009 12:43

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we dont need it, nor do i want it. i was just summonsing on it appearing as law in this country

I don't want to study it a lot to give you a better answer. But there are probally parts of it that are harmless. Where as other parts are harsh and impossible to implement on people that do not believe that islam is the path to spirtual enlightenment etc

BERNADETTE 16-10-2009 12:50

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You and I might not need it or want it but you can bet your last penny we are getting it. It is also not good news for muslim women IMO, where they have some protection with the laws of this country they will have none with sharia law. If you went to live in another country that had different laws than the ones you found acceptable would you expect that country to allow you to integrate laws you wanted? And would it be allowed? I think not!!!

Restless 16-10-2009 12:54

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of course not hehe. I doubt they would even let you build any kind of church other than mosques in their country

Sharia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

read this and imagine all of this being implemented in this country. Never going to happen.
But some parts like for instance. The wearing of veils. Religious dress etc. Perhaps

As for me a law that bans all religion wouldn't necessarily be a bad one...but then again there are still too many of non muslim religious people in the country too :rolleyes:

Bagpuss 16-10-2009 13:31

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 754113)
Perhaps a modified version intergrated with english laws to give muslims religious freedom that doesn't inflict on freedom's of non muslims... if that makes sense

Utter utter crap, you keep saying "it will never happen then" then you feel easy to post the above, I hope there's not a lot like you or it will be here before we know then what will you do?:(

Restless 16-10-2009 13:36

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hopefully they will implement an aspect of being albe to move to another country without being loaded first. Then i would move to america

Bagpuss 16-10-2009 13:41

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 754150)
Then i would move to america

I hope they send you back:rolleyes:

MargaretR 16-10-2009 13:41

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 754150)
hopefully they will implement an aspect of being albe to move to another country without being loaded first. Then i would move to america

America:eek: I thought you were an avid webbrowser like me
That's the last place on Earth I would want to be right now

PS SOUTH America = OK but I don't think you meant that

Restless 16-10-2009 13:44

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 754155)
America:eek: I thought you were an avid webbrowser like me
That's the last place on Earth I would want to be right now

PS SOUTH America = OK but I don't think you meant that

true but parts are nice... maybe canada. Seems a few people move there from accrington

Restless 16-10-2009 13:45

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 754153)
I hope they send you back:rolleyes:

was a contradictory statement i made... Why would a law here be effected there :rolleyes:

Bagpuss 16-10-2009 13:47

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 754157)
was a contradictory statement i made... Why would a law here be effected there :rolleyes:

Why should you just be allowed to run away from the mess you made?

MargaretR 16-10-2009 13:50

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 754156)
true but parts are nice... maybe canada. Seems a few people move there from accrington

It would take me too long to adjust to the extremely cold long winters.
Eric went went he was young.
.....But I never rule out the possibly - a pole shift (will) would alter the climate there.:)

Restless 16-10-2009 14:17

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 754159)
Why should you just be allowed to run away from the mess you made?

:eek: since when am i part or the government or my belief in human rights and hopes of all relgions falling decide the fate of this country

Bagpuss 16-10-2009 15:52

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 754170)
:eek: since when am i part or the government or my belief in human rights and hopes of all relgions falling decide the fate of this country

What????:confused:

Restless 16-10-2009 15:55

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 754201)
What????:confused:

the above statement. You seem to think that i am resposible for 'the mess' that the country is in :confused:

Eric 16-10-2009 19:32

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 754156)
true but parts are nice... maybe canada. Seems a few people move there from accrington

Canada's full ... stay home, eh;):D:D

Eric 16-10-2009 19:33

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 754161)
It would take me too long to adjust to the extremely cold long winters.
Eric went went he was young.
.....But I never rule out the possibly - a pole shift (will) would alter the climate there.:)

From what I read, all the Poles are shifting to the UK:D

Pheonix 16-10-2009 19:47

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Hi

I am a muslim and the majority of muslims I know believe that the law of the land is foremost and the primary law of that land and one should abide by that.

I for one do not believe that Sharia law should be imposed in this country (which I do class as my home country)


For most muslims Sharia law is ingrained into their everyday lives so there is no need to formalise it in a multi-cultural or multi-religious country.

As in all religions there are people with extreme views and it is them that are pushing this agenda.

On immigration I like most of you believe that it is at an unacceptable level and something should be done and I do believe in the points system and hopefully that is slowly taking off in this country.

My plea to all on this thread is do not tar everyone who is a muslim or from a different culture with the same brush, there are a lot of decent hard working people out there from the Indian sub-continent.

The governments of this country both Labour and conservatives have allowed this to happen and any future governments must work to get the immigration levels down to an acceptable level.

Restless 16-10-2009 20:20

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 754271)
Canada's full ... stay home, eh;):D:D

are you not getting homesick for accy? We can swap places :D

Bagpuss 16-10-2009 21:19

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Originally Posted by Pheonix (Post 754274)
My plea to all on this thread is do not tar everyone who is a muslim or from a different culture with the same brush, there are a lot of decent hard working people out there from the Indian sub-continent.

The governments of this country both Labour and conservatives have allowed this to happen and any future governments must work to get the immigration levels down to an acceptable level.

Even so called racists like myself (I prefer non religious English person who has had enough) would never tar everyone with the same brush and certainly agree with on the decent hardworking people you talk of as I know quite a few myself.
It's the extremists that cause these problems with muslims as normal muslims usually get dragged in to the fight but this is not just a thread about muslims because the eastern europeans are to me a bigger threat at the moment to our way of life and the door needs to close now.

Did I meet you when the ASSF was set up at Ilyas Khans home?

Mancie 16-10-2009 21:41

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 754294)
Even so called racists like myself (I prefer non religious English person who has had enough) would never tar everyone with the same brush and certainly agree with on the decent hardworking people you talk of as I know quite a few myself.
It's the extremists that cause these problems with muslims as normal muslims usually get dragged in to the fight but this is not just a thread about muslims because the eastern europeans are to me a bigger threat at the moment to our way of life and the door needs to close now.

Did I meet you when the ASSF was set up at Ilyas Khans home?

what a load of kak...you say the door has to close now and I reckon that is the opinion of most people posting on this thread.. but that is not what you have said in the past.. you have stated that all "non whites" should be sent home.. tell us were that home is.. you may think you are the master race Bagpuss .if you are then the whole planet is in deep trouble.. you and your like need to be ..ummm.. dealt with ;)

Wynonie Harris 16-10-2009 22:18

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 754299)
but that is not what you have said in the past.. you have stated that all "non whites" should be sent home.

He's mellowing in his old age. ;)

Bagpuss 16-10-2009 22:27

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 754299)
what a load of kak...you say the door has to close now and I reckon that is the opinion of most people posting on this thread.. but that is not what you have said in the past.. you have stated that all "non whites" should be sent home.. tell us were that home is.. you may think you are the master race Bagpuss .if you are then the whole planet is in deep trouble.. you and your like need to be ..ummm.. dealt with ;)

Whatever manc, find something I've posted then I can comment on what I've wrote, I'm sure you might find some goodies somewhere. Like yourself I've had a turn on the soapbox but sometimes you realise you cannot change the world so you look at what is currently the biggest threat and to me it is the open borders to europeans and the rise of muslims in our country while fannys like yourself just nod along, now pee off before I shoot you;):)

Wynonie Harris 16-10-2009 22:30

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 754324)
now pee off before I shoot you;):)

...or, then again, maybe not! ;)

Mancie 16-10-2009 22:47

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 754324)
Whatever manc, find something I've posted then I can comment on what I've wrote, I'm sure you might find some goodies somewhere. Like yourself I've had a turn on the soapbox but sometimes you realise you cannot change the world so you look at what is currently the biggest threat and to me it is the open borders to europeans and the rise of muslims in our country while fannys like yourself just nod along, now pee off before I shoot you;):)

can't be assed finding stuff you have posted .. but I remember them and I know what a "kill burn gas" nutcase you are.. so don't even try to get all sloppy about a Muslim post and trying to claim that "some of them are ok".. be a man.. be the upstanding Nazi we all love to hate..be your usuall PussBag!

jaysay 17-10-2009 09:04

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 754328)
...or, then again, maybe not! ;)

They think the world of each other really Wynonie:rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 17-10-2009 09:08

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 754406)
They think the world of each other really Wynonie:rolleyes:

I seem to remember Mancie offering to buy Baggy a pint if he ever came down to London. I'd love to be a fly on the wall for that one! ;)

jaysay 17-10-2009 09:11

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 754409)
I seem to remember Mancie offering to buy Baggy a pint if he ever came down to London. I'd love to be a fly on the wall for that one! ;)

Ya that one could be very interesting to say the least:D

steeljack 23-10-2009 23:23

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if this is true , those responsible should be 'had up' for treason

Labour wanted mass immigration to make UK more multicultural, says former adviser - Telegraph

Mancie 23-10-2009 23:31

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 755951)
if this is true , those responsible should be 'had up' for treason

Labour wanted mass immigration to make UK more multicultural, says former adviser - Telegraph

If you think this article is "true" then this must be true..
“Britain's borders are stronger than ever before and we are rolling out ID cards to foreign nationals, we have introduced civil penalties for those employing illegal workers and from the end of next year our electronic border system will monitor 95 per cent of journeys in and out of the UK.

taken from the same article

BERNADETTE 23-10-2009 23:48

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If you watch UK Border Patrol it makes for interesting viewing. Last year in Calais the border agencies accosted 28,000 illegals in the lorries they searched. They obviously can't search every lorry so it does make you question 1. just how many illegals are in the UK and 2. why none of our major political parties see it as a problem that all these people are risking life and limb to get here!!!!!!

Mancie 23-10-2009 23:54

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Lets get things clear on immagration to this country... in the late 50's early 60's the then Tory government actively encouraged West Indians, Indians and anyone they could gets their hands on to come to Britian in an attempt to fill in an employment gap...again in 1995 another Tory government signed an agreement that made it legal for any citizen of the EU to enter and live in any country within the EU.. this is not Labours doing.. get your facts right

Neil 24-10-2009 00:19

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 755959)
this is not Labours doing.. get your facts right

But they did not change it so must agree with it.

Mancie 24-10-2009 01:12

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 755964)
But they did not change it so must agree with it.

well now that's another debate..we are in a Union.. a Union the Tories took this country into and in which Tory governments have signed and agreed to every enlargement and immagration treaties in the EU.. but now they blame this government and tinker with the voters on wether they will play an active part in the EU or cause disruption.. they should say the are in or out, instead of moaning and groaning.. there is nothing to stop the Tories from getting out.. they could do it the day they get elected.

BERNADETTE 24-10-2009 02:12

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 755970)
well now that's another debate..we are in a Union.. a Union the Tories took this country into and in which Tory governments have signed and agreed to every enlargement and immagration treaties in the EU.. but now they blame this government and tinker with the voters on wether they will play an active part in the EU or cause disruption.. they should say the are in or out, instead of moaning and groaning.. there is nothing to stop the Tories from getting out.. they could do it the day they get elected.

I for one certainly do not blame this government for the number of immigrants but would dearly love to see one of the parties stand up and say "enough is enough", after all we are but a small island yet everybody seems to want to come and live here. Surely there is a limit to how many people one small island can welcome?

Neil 24-10-2009 07:21

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 755976)
I for one certainly do not blame this government for the number of immigrants but would dearly love to see one of the parties stand up and say "enough is enough", after all we are but a small island yet everybody seems to want to come and live here. Surely there is a limit to how many people one small island can welcome?

Of course it is there fault. They are doing very little to stop the illegal ones and have done nothing to stop the flow of Europeans (mainly eastern) that are causing us problems.

You must of seen the TV border patrol type programs on TV. If they can't prove a suspected person is illegal then they can't kick them out. They try and find the persons passport to prove who they are. Without it they let them go.

This is wrong. We should all have ID cards proving we are allowed to be here. If a person does not have one then they should be detained and treated as illegal until they can prove who they are.

garinda 24-10-2009 09:01

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I recently watched a reconstruction of the Morecambe Bay cockle pickers tragedy, which illustrated this country's lax attitude to illegal immigrants.

The lucky survivors were found to be here illegally, and were going to be used as witnesses in court, to help prosecute those that employed and brought them here to work.

They were held at an unsecured detention centre...and they all ran off.

Never to be seen again.

Eric 24-10-2009 18:25

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 755976)
I for one certainly do not blame this government for the number of immigrants but would dearly love to see one of the parties stand up and say "enough is enough", after all we are but a small island yet everybody seems to want to come and live here. Surely there is a limit to how many people one small island can welcome?

This crossed my mind too ... question is: do you really need more immigrants? We do, but only in specific areas: health care and skilled trades come to mind. Employment is up in Canada; construction and infrastructure projects are healthy. But do you guys need more bodies over there? I think I'll take a look at how Australia and New Zealand deal with immigrants. Maybe they are like us: if we need you, welcome; if we don't, have a nice day. Those of us who are lucky enough to be citiizens have first dibs on the national wealth.

Oh, and just in case any think that we lack generosity and compassion, take a look at our record in foreign aid and emergency aid.

steeljack 05-11-2009 05:12

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 748486)
Seems to me most of the "refugees" are mostly young guys of military service age , so why are they not enroling into "overseas militias" much like the Poles/French/Dutch and others did in 39. Then after basic training they can go back and support the coalition forces. I'm sure the US/British military would be more than happy to supply training personnel . I'm sure after all these wasted years we have enough Phasto/Dari speakers amongst our veterans who would be glad of the chance to train these guys .
Probably the only objections would come from the corrupt Govt. in Kabul , would they really want indigenous 'western' trained troops keeping an eye on things . :confused: :confused:

In light of recent events, the post I wrote (above) was wrong , seems the guy responsible had been a member of the Afghani police for some time and had spent a considerable time serving with the British forces all the time being a member of the taliban , now the question is how many other taliban are working alongside coalition troops and how can coalition troops be expected to work in an atmosphere where they don't know who is a friend or foe . Seems to me its time to pull out and glass the place over and turn it into one giant solar panel :eek: ;)

Eric 06-11-2009 00:51

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 760644)
In light of recent events, the post I wrote (above) was wrong , seems the guy responsible had been a member of the Afghani police for some time and had spent a considerable time serving with the British forces all the time being a member of the taliban , now the question is how many other taliban are working alongside coalition troops and how can coalition troops be expected to work in an atmosphere where they don't know who is a friend or foe . Seems to me its time to pull out and glass the place over and turn it into one giant solar panel :eek: ;)

Agree ... it's time to pull out ... if the Afghanis can't sort out their own problems, I can't see how it is possible that we ("we" being the US, UK, and Canada as the only ones doing any of the scrapping over there, with the French, Germans etc. sitting in the bleachers) can do it for them.

By the way, are you suggesting the quick way of glassing it over?:eek:


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