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apologies for offtopic... but i for some reason have a Red karma that just says 'hows that for negative' i think perhaps an incomplete sentence? No idea why i got this apart from not sharing the same views as others.... oh well
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I agree with you that the system is a joke but all world leaders are puppets on strings....just ask Mr D :D |
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well said, but you dont have to be literate to argue intelligently or even to run a country... look at george bush :)
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It appears the the French are closing the refuge camp outside Calais, where 2000 people from mainly Afghanistan and Iraq, are hell bent on gaining illegal entry to this country, it seems the French are blaming GB plc for the growth of this site because Britain has become a soft touch and people can't wait to get to the land of milk and honey:mad::mad:
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So, why don't the government take a look at the French, German and Spanish methods of dealing with immigration? Presumably, they have systems in place which are fair, yet firm. It stands to reason that if we adopted the French model, for example, the UK would be an unappealing as France is now to the thousands currently massed at Calais.
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If all this didn't pose such serious consequences for your country, it would be laughable.
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hehe bagpuss. But really what i mean is for people to vote for bnp just to oppose immigrants....or to oppose muslims...they must be really ignorant to all the things bnp represent.
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dont twist my words GRRRRRrr
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madness
reminds me of reading about that... here it is http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...n-parties.html As the lib dem guy says..... "party of thugs and fascists" |
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well if they win through i hope you have blonde hair and blue eyes
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yes but cashman voting for bnp will not solve this problem and the protest is just blowing in the wind.
bagpuss: yeah the old one....but still the horror is still there about these people. Nick said that the holocaust was the holohoax.....that scares me..especially when people may vote without really knowing the full extent to the hatred they represent |
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yeah the european union... that is an odd situation. I had a born again christianity leaflet through the door that said Jesus was going to return and destroy the european union....hehe
According to conspiracy nuts we are heading into a world government and that you can expect a war with china/japan soon. What will happen then...Will we vote to try and get out of the world union? |
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doubt they would ever get enough votes. This was the basis of my last comment
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its hard to contemplate. If bnp got in id do everything i could to goto america or canada
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i keep telling myself this country... i need out of it. But if i managed to leave for good....would i miss it? hehe
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However, the major parties really do need to counter the threat of the BNP more seriously. Firstly, by acknowledging that people are concerned about immigration and looking at ways to allay their concerns. As I said, why don't the goverment look at how the French and Spanish deal with immigrants? Neither of these countries have adopted the "send 'em all back and close the borders" approach that the likes of Baggy advocate, but they are not seen as a soft touch for illegals and bogus asylum seekers in the way that the UK is. Secondly, the main parties need to confront Nick Griffin directly and expose his arguments to the light of day. Nick Griffin is apparently going to appear on "Question Time" - the Labour party's refusal to appear with him is absolutely ridiculous. They should be on there countering his cliched, prejudiced views with well-reasoned arguments. Ignoring the BNP will not make them go away. |
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With regards to the refugee camp in France, it now appears that the UN are sticking their nose in saying that those in this camp should be allowed into Britain when this camp shuts, no doubt they#ll be saying that we should also take those being held in Camp Gidmo when the Yanks close that too, Britain is fast becoming the dustbin of the world
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It's really quite simple; even us colonials got if figured. All those wishing to become citizens of our country must apply. In order to be succesful you need to aquire a certain number of points. Points are awarded on the basis of your education and skills, and if those skills are ones that we are in need of, and you are in good health, you are in. Although, if you decide to locate in Quebec, be prepared to learn French and accept the fact that your children will be educated in French. Bottom line is: if we need you, you are welcome. If we don't ..........
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Likes of Baggy my arse, close the borders, yes, send them back, it's not going to happen but if we make the UK a place that's not such a soft touch and inviting to every european scumbag then they will go back of their own accord. Muslims, I would ban the muslim religion in the UK, end off. I voted BNP in the euro elections as a protest vote I could have voted UKIP but felt that was a cop out. |
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He is a Aussie and a first time visitor ,his wife is originally from Liverpool. Iasked him about his trip Agreat place to visit,but you wouldn,t want to live there ,too many effin foreigners,and they still keep lettin em in . |
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What other party could you possibly want in power apart from the BNP? :confused: |
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And you'd like to ban the muslim religion in the UK (how do you do that? Have special "religious police" going round checking people's houses for muslim artefacts?).
All you'd have to do is go through the Council Tax register and you'd find most of them.......they're all exempt because they say that they use front room as prayer room so don't pay any as long as they say they get 10 people in :( |
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Just an example of PC madness, it seems that the home office issued a 5 page leaflet telling people not to eat their food in front of Muslims during Ramadan as it could put to much pressure on people fasting. This leaflet has been criticised my Muslims themselves saying that stupid things like this only cause resentment between them and none Muslims and is uncalled for
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any idea of the numbers ? any Hyndburn Councillor with want to comment about the veracity of the above comment, and if its correct how many use this ruse to get an exemption :eek: :confused:[/quote]
I know for a fact that it is true, my ex next door neighbour is one of the people who do it :( |
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When I was 'knocking on doors for the Social' I visited such homes on a few occasions.
The front room was furnished only with a large rug. There was a small space between it and the skirting board which I had to walk on to reach the kitchen. Standing on a prayer rug wearing shoes is a no no. There were a few muslim 'priests' living in the community - only a few then - maybe more now. What used to annoy me was how they could claim when christian priests, reverands and nuns couldn't. |
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My sentiments exactly Margaret |
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Enoch Powell, will be saying, you should have listened to me, now its the same old story all over the world and I supose you realise all our coments are being monitored. Free speach will be dead in 20 years and so will I.
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Whatever happened to the idea of letting people into your country on the basis of what they can give to the country, not what they can take from it:confused: |
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That's how it should be but this is England a place where too many people just haven't got the balls to say or do what should be done. It used to be don't unpack you're going back now it's let me unpack for you and while we're at it please accept my job and my house and all my money in case I offend you, people of England you make me sick.
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Watching the news last night I wondered what would have happened if British police had handled illegals in this country as the French did at the "Jungle" there would have been much wailing and gnashing of teeth me think;)
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Here in France there are no translated official documents - if you want a translation - go and pay for one. of course there are plenty of officials here who are will ing to help if you are polite and make an attempt to speak French - no matter how badly. You want to get a job here, you have to speak French, even to the extent of a French driving test (Certificate of Competency) for anything over 3.5 tons. Some of the horror stories I have heard of immigrant drivers turning up to drive passennger vehicles having passed their "driving test" on disused Eastern Bloc airfields, really make you wonder what England has become.
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On the radio the other day the CBC were interviewing this Afghani guy in France .... he needed a translator, tho', because he didn't speak English .... he was up front about why he was trying to make it to the UK .... food, shelter and health care for his family. Seems like you guys have a major league problem going on. With all these freeloaders ready to descend on your shores, maybe it's time to do a Nancy Reagan, and just say "no".
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I think the vast majority of people have been able to see the problems for a long time Eric, just can't get anybody in power to recognise what is going on.
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Question: when the Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stood on his hind legs to spout his hatred of Israel, did the Brits, like the Candians walk out? |
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I'm wondering if we are going backwards ....... frequent Accy web users may have noticed that I sometimes post on the video Jukebox thread ........to-night while surfing around I came to the conclusion that the 60s when the "P" word was in common usage just as a descriptive phrase there were at least 4 top ten artists who had multiple top 10 hits who could claim mixed race descent from the "sub-continent" and never was a word said against them ...I'm refering to... Cliff Richards, Eden Kane, Englebert Humperdink and Peter Sarstedt . OK maybe in the tradition of the old minstal show they "wore" white face, to make a living, but all were described at the time as being of "Anglo-Indian origin" all were born before the separation of India and Pakistan ..... haven't read anything about them being 'sell-outs to their origins" ....
maybe things were better in 30/40 years ago than they are now without all the Govt. interferance about how we should all get along . :confused: :confused: |
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I'll go along with what you say Steeljack.. and it's about respect for each other.. no more gollywog or nigger and such that was day to day talk (and still is in the backscrubs of Accy) times change, but ignorant donkeys don't.
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There is sadly ignorant donkeys across all sections of our diverse society, not just in the ethnic majority. Unless the re-education is to all donkeys whether in the backscrubs as you call them or the city then we will always have it. This problem will not go away unless all races, creeds, religious beliefs accept what the rest are and do not knock them for it. For us to have a society that is true to the meaning of multicultural diversity and accept what it brings and how we can all benifit ,then we are stuck in the dark ages. We cannot force them to change but encourage them to put forward what is the best in their way of life so that others in time understand them. If we dont we will have small countries within a country that will become insular even more than they are now. What will happen is that they go hell bent for leather to preserve what they have and believe to be under attack. It will make the splitting of Henry VIII's spliting frome thr Roman church look like a kids falling out. Religion is part of it so is their way of running their daily lives and traditions. I have seen young women of ethnic minorities sticking to beliefs but also others trying to fit in as they have a more liberal view that does not break the traditional falues they hold. These people are tryin to embrace others values and should be applauded for doing so. It shows that there is a desire if only a small one at the moment to fit in. Should we start to knock this or make a mockery then we defeat what we want and let the narrow minded win. Its time to look at who they are and not what they are. The traditions they hold are cherished by them the same way we hold ours dear. Yet when we feel these things are threatened we are reactive not proactive just the same as we are. The UK manages being 4 countries in 1 without any real problems though in the past there were. We can be a whole with all its little parts just the same as a car engine is because if you remove a needed part it ceases to work as will or culture and what we strive fore. |
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I actually read that Spuggie..wherever did you get it from ? what a load of bollocks..this is England.. keep to the rules we have and your culture is welcome.. you'll always get them that don't but most black people are on the same wavelenth. as for you Jocks..well you've never been any good for England so stay on yer oil rig
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sorry mancie its not keeping to the rules we have, thats why we are in such a mess now, the new rules have ballsed things up big time.:rolleyes:
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I have served,worked and lived in a number of countries overseas. In every single one you have to accept that you are there by invitation and you must abide by their laws and customs. Not a single one of them provides official documentation translated into a multitude of languages like England, and presumably UK does. I don't consider myself a racist but i do feel that anyone who chooses to live in UK from a foreign country should accept the English laws and customs and not expect England to change them for the immigrants. That is why after 17 years in a Muslim country my wife and I decided that we no longer wanted to live in "multi-cultural" England. Yet still. "England, for all thy faults, I love thee still."
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hang on Barrie ..Britain nor England are muslim states..if you left England because of muslim immigrants France is chocker block with them. :rolleyes: |
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I don't think i referred to "Muslim Immigrants", i did state that I had worked in a Muslim country - Saudi Arabia to be accurate, where the only non-Muslim religious services can be held in Emabassies, and yes there are plenty in France in the larger cities - very few her in Brittany. It is not just Muslims in UK that are defiling the very culture of our country.
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in heated discussions with my friend about this subject and whatnot.... he has one good point in that like barrie was saying. About building mosques. Try and build a coe or catholic church in SA and see what happens
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