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Royboy39 18-03-2009 20:18

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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 693748)
Your a mind reader now are you.:rolleyes: Neil and Roy got it but you didnt :dummy2::dummy2:
Go and shoot your dinner :rolleyes:

Seems like we are auditioning for the cast of 'Boys from the Blackstuff'
I think Eric is capable of doing just that...what are you famous for nemick?

Taggy 19-03-2009 11:40

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Is there a point at which multiculteralism should be deemed to be heading too far.? Its been reported that 1 in 7 primary school pupils have English as a second language. In some areas English is a foreign language to over 70% of 4-11 year olds. Ten schools are without a single pupil who has English as a first language. In 4 years the number of primary school children who dont have English as their first language has increased by 25% and one school has pupils with 56 different languages!. This is as things stand now...or rather last year, so surely if nothing is done to drastically curtail immigration, then this situation can only get much worse. This surely must greatly effect the standard of education that children are receiving in this country, when so much resource has to be put basic english language skills. Apparently £206 million funding is being put into increasing the "Ethnic minority achievement grant" by 2010.

Surely if things are allowed to carry on at this rate, we as a country are going to lose our national identity, can that be right? WE've always been a very patriotic country, proud of our national heritage and common values. This must be being eroded by the level of multiculteralism to which we are surely heading, if more control is not taken over immigration. Its obviously right and beneficial to have a certain ammount of diversity, and integration of others cultures into our society, but i dont feel this should be allowed to grow to a level that it puts our own National Identity at risk. One of the benefits of travel, is to see other nationalities and cultures, a lot can be enjoyed and learned by seeing other lands and how people live there. However, its still usually nice to return home, and be among people of your own upbriging with whom you share common values. Britain is i think in danger of feeling less like home, and more just a nation of disparate groups sharing a chunk of earth. Australia, another island nation, has set and indeed now reduced the level of imigrants its going to take, particularily in the current ecconomic climate. I really feel we need to do the same.

If things carry on in the way that they are, rather than us having to debate possible Street name changes in Hyndburn, our Grandchildren and Great Grandchildren may be talking about changing the name of the Country!

Best Regards - Taggy

Neil 19-03-2009 11:57

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I think children should not be allowed to attend school if they don't meet a certain level of English.

lancsdave 19-03-2009 13:05

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A postmaster in Nottingham is in trouble with the Post Office because he has decided if people who can't speak English go in to his post office he will refuse to serve them. Be prepared for a suprise when you read about it :)

BBC NEWS | England | Nottinghamshire | Postmaster's foreign language ban

Wynonie Harris 19-03-2009 13:39

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 694029)
A postmaster in Nottingham is in trouble with the Post Office because he has decided if people who can't speak English go in to his post office he will refuse to serve them. Be prepared for a suprise when you read about it :)

BBC NEWS | England | Nottinghamshire | Postmaster's foreign language ban

Good on him, although perhaps a little hard on someone who's just arrived or some passing tourist who might have wandered in. The real problem, though, is the huge amount of money that the local authorities, government departments and the NHS spend on translating documents into about six different languages.

Just one other thing, though...when they were talking about this on TV this morning, someone said that out of the half million or so British expats who live in Spain, around 70% don't speak Spanish. Is this true?

Royboy39 19-03-2009 14:00

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 694044)
Good on him, although perhaps a little hard on someone who's just arrived or some passing tourist who might have wandered in. The real problem, though, is the huge amount of money that the local authorities, government departments and the NHS spend on translating documents into about six different languages.

Just one other thing, though...when they were talking about this on TV this morning, someone said that out of the half million or so British expats who live in Spain, around 70% don't speak Spanish. Is this true?

True.......:o
There are no translated documents. No benefits unless and until you pay into the Spanish system and no sympathy if you are able bodied and dont work.

Wynonie Harris 19-03-2009 14:30

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 694050)
True.......:o
There are no translated documents. No benefits unless and until you pay into the Spanish system and no sympathy if you are able bodied and dont work.

That's the way it should be here, Roy, but I'm amazed that the non-Spanish speaking Brits scenario is true. After all the stuff we hear about immigrants coming over here not being prepared to integrate into our society, I would have thought that the British in Spain would avoid falling into the same trap. It also begs the question...what would happen if Spanish shopkeepers refused to serve people who couldn't speak Spanish...or even worse Spanish bartenders! ;)

Eric 19-03-2009 14:57

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 694050)
True.......:o
There are no translated documents. No benefits unless and until you pay into the Spanish system and no sympathy if you are able bodied and dont work.

As I sit here cleaning my gun, wondering which one of god's creatures would go well with potatoes and carrots;), a few questions come to mind: Are the British ex-pats Spanish citizens (or are they in the process of becoming citizens), or do they have some "limbo" status, like Landed Immigrants in Canada (not citizens with the right to vote etc, but official, legal resisdents ... a status which can be easily revoked, say if the landed immigrant commits a crime, even DWI) ... or are they there to work on a temporary basis? And I presume that many of the ex-pats have children, and that these children are educated in Spanish schools in the Spanish language. Am I right in presuming that any children born in Spain to ex-pats are automatically Spanish citizens? Do the ex-pats live in ex-pat communities, or are they spread out through the general population? I'm presuming that even the dullest of the ex-pats would pick up at least a smattering of Spanish, maybe enough to get by in the stores and the bars .... which brings me to that percentage, 30 I believe, that speak Spanish .... I'm assuming that they are fluent. If so, the percentage isn't really all that bad.

Just crossed my mind that Spain and la belle province de Quebec have quite a bit in common;)

Eric 19-03-2009 14:58

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... apart from the weather of course.

Wynonie Harris 19-03-2009 15:22

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 694061)
Are the British ex-pats Spanish citizens (or are they in the process of becoming citizens)

We are all citizens of the EU now...Europeans joined together in a blissful state of union for the common good (well, you're not, you jammy sod, but us lot over here are). :rolleyes:

Royboy39 19-03-2009 15:24

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 694057)
That's the way it should be here, Roy, but I'm amazed that the non-Spanish speaking Brits scenario is true. After all the stuff we hear about immigrants coming over here not being prepared to integrate into our society, I would have thought that the British in Spain would avoid falling into the same trap. It also begs the question...what would happen if Spanish shopkeepers refused to serve people who couldn't speak Spanish...or even worse Spanish bartenders! ;)

Spain has an economy built on tourism, mostly from Europe. It would be econimic suicide for anyone here to do that.
The Ex-Pat community..........mostly do speak a little Spanish and pick it up as they go along....I would say that the 30% who do speak the language fluently are the children of Ex-Pats and passed on to parents.
The Spanish Government do provide, in night schools, language lessons for anyone who wishes to learn.
Supermarkets here are the same as all Europe, You choose what you want and pay.

Eric 19-03-2009 15:43

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 694066)
We are all citizens of the EU now...Europeans joined together in a blissful state of union for the common good (well, you're not, you jammy sod, but us lot over here are). :rolleyes:

You didn't really need the sarcastic smilie, "blissful state of union" conveyed your feelings:D:D But this point didn't cross my mind ... so there are no English or French or Germans any more? All are equal:theband: (given the latest news about some basket-case economies in Europe, some would appear more equal than others). I'm going to have to do some reading about this EU thing ... right now it seems to be a lot of unworkable bs (outsiders view of course). I asked the question because I remember that when CFB Kingston became a temporary home for some Bosnian refugees, the several children born here were automatically Canadian citizens ... but, as you say, that doesn't apply in the new, homogenized Europe.

jaysay 19-03-2009 16:03

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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 693746)
I see Noris or is it Doris has the side kick jaysay with his hand bag ready to swing.Bet you dont talk to your poodle this way :eek::eek::eek::D

No but I'll talk to bigots anyway I want:thefinger:thefinger

jaysay 19-03-2009 16:06

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 694029)
A postmaster in Nottingham is in trouble with the Post Office because he has decided if people who can't speak English go in to his post office he will refuse to serve them. Be prepared for a suprise when you read about it :)

BBC NEWS | England | Nottinghamshire | Postmaster's foreign language ban

I think his reasons are spot on dave, if people want to make this country their home, learn the lingo

Eric 19-03-2009 16:35

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 694081)
I think his reasons are spot on dave, if people want to make this country their home, learn the lingo

... or at least enough of it to get by. Even the dumbest, unilingual anglophone Canadian doesn't get confused with "stop" signs in Quebec ... and if he wants a brewskie; it's not hard to recognize the bars .... there are people inside them drinking :eek:

By the way, Quebec has an "in French only" law for all signs in the province ... and all immigrants in Quebec must send their children to French only schools. I love Quebec ... it's different, it's French, it's fun, and it's Canadian ... and given the inability of the Parti Quebecois to sell indepence, will probably remain so. Now, if only les Canadiens de Montreal could start playing some better hockey .....

steeljack 19-03-2009 17:25

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 694073)
I asked the question because I remember that when CFB Kingston became a temporary home for some Bosnian refugees, the several children born here were automatically Canadian citizens ... but, as you say, that doesn't apply in the new, homogenized Europe.

In answer to your question , dont believe there is a common rule in the EU about nationality being automatic to your place of birth , Each EU country still applies its own rules , know for a fact that a children born to Turkish (non-citizen German) parents in Germany are classed as Turkish (no automatic German Passport) .
Also a child born in the US to Irish immigrant parents (green card holders, but not yet citizens) automatically gets a US passport but also qualifies for an Irish passport.

Like the old saying , Just because the cat has kittens in the oven , don't make them biscuits"

Stumped 19-03-2009 18:04

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 694029)
A postmaster in Nottingham is in trouble with the Post Office because he has decided if people who can't speak English go in to his post office he will refuse to serve them. Be prepared for a suprise when you read about it :)

BBC NEWS | England | Nottinghamshire | Postmaster's foreign language ban

Incredible isn't, when a chap who is himself an immigrant, is setting out to implement a ruling that our inept government hasn't got the bottle to do. Just like Blackburn's 'man of straw', his gutless colleagues are scrabbling like rats in a sinking ship for fear of losing the muslim vote.

jaysay 19-03-2009 18:41

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Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 694116)
Incredible isn't, when a chap who is himself an immigrant, is setting out to implement a ruling that our inept government hasn't got the bottle to do. Just like Blackburn's 'man of straw', his gutless colleagues are scrabbling like rats in a sinking ship for fear of losing the muslim vote.

I think in Jack, the man of Straw's case, he's trying to keep all the balls in the air whilst juggling the problem of retaining his own place on the gravy train at the next G.E. Stumped:rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 19-03-2009 18:59

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 694107)
Each EU country still applies its own rules , know for a fact that a children born to Turkish (non-citizen German) parents in Germany are classed as Turkish (no automatic German Passport) .

Turkey's not an EU member (yet). The fact is that the EU allows freedom of movement and employment within its member states. Add to that the fact that much, perhaps the majority of our legislation originates in Brussels/Strausbourg and it becomes apparent that we are one large state. We even have our own flag and national anthem! :rolleyes:

steeljack 19-03-2009 19:50

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 694159)
Turkey's not an EU member (yet). The fact is that the EU allows freedom of movement and employment within its member states. Add to that the fact that much, perhaps the majority of our legislation originates in Brussels/Strausbourg and it becomes apparent that we are one large state. We even have our own flag and national anthem! :rolleyes:

Was just using Turkey as an example in answer to Eric's question about automatic right of citizenship placed on the location of the birth, dont think a child of any EU parents (including British) born in Germany automatically gets German citizenship as a right , unlike the UK and US which automatically grants citizenship if the place of birth is within that country .

Maybe an Accy web user who lives in Spain can tell us if a child born in Spain of British passport holders (or other nationality) automatically qualifies for Spainish citizenship. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

jaysay 19-03-2009 19:57

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 694217)
Was just using Turkey as an example in answer to Eric's question about automatic right of citizenship placed on the location of the birth, dont think a child of any EU parents (including British) born in Germany automatically gets German citizenship as a right , unlike the UK and US which automatically grants citizenship if the place of birth is within that country .

Maybe an Accy web user who lives in Spain can tell us if a child born in Spain of British passport holders (or other nationality) automatically qualifies for Spainish citizenship. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

That's a good question SJ. both my grandsons were born in Hong Kong, both their parents are British citizens born and bred, but what the status is I'm baffled, will try and find out and report back. I honestly think that they are classed as British citizens, but in this Topsy turvy world who knows

Wynonie Harris 19-03-2009 20:10

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 694217)
Maybe an Accy web user who lives in Spain can tell us if a child born in Spain of British passport holders (or other nationality) automatically qualifies for Spainish citizenship. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Whether it does or not, they can still live and work there indefinitely. I would think that after a period of time, they'd be able to apply for Spanish citizenship.

As you say, though, maybe one of our Spanish expats can enlighten us. I would imagine they'll all be out at their Spanish classes at the moment ("When in Rome" and all that), but they should be back soon. ;)

Royboy39 19-03-2009 20:19

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 694250)
Whether it does or not, they can still live and work there indefinitely. I would think that after a period of time, they'd be able to apply for Spanish citizenship.

As you say, though, maybe one of our Spanish expats can enlighten us. I would imagine they'll all be out at their Spanish classes at the moment ("When in Rome" and all that), but they should be back soon. ;)

Watching Man City at the moment but yes children born in Spain to a legal entrant are registered as Spanish and can be considered for dual nationality on account of their parentage.

steeljack 19-03-2009 21:50

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 694264)
Watching Man City at the moment but yes children born in Spain to a legal entrant are registered as Spanish and can be considered for dual nationality on account of their parentage.

Do you happen know if the offspring of illegals get Spanish citizenship just because they were born there ? :confused:

garinda 19-03-2009 23:22

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 694310)
Do you happen know if the offspring of illegals get Spanish citizenship just because they were born there ? :confused:

'Spain is processing work papers for about 700,000 illegal immigrants already living in the country after holding a three-month amnesty.'
'Over the last couple of decades Spain has gone from being a country of economic migrants to being a desirable destination for economic immigrants.

Immigration to Spain has increased five-fold since 1999, but the country's Socialist government says it is determined to turn what might seem like a huge problem into a distinct advantage'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4579127.stm

The answer is yes, as is the same througout the E.E.C.

cashman 19-03-2009 23:23

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 694310)
Do you happen know if the offspring of illegals get Spanish citizenship just because they were born there ? :confused:

Can't see it meself steeljack, ya have to apply fer residencia to be classed as far as i know.:)

garinda 19-03-2009 23:41

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 694344)
The answer is yes, as is the same througout the E.E.C.

Although there are many cases of the offspring of illegal immigrants being granted citizenship of a country where they were born, and left in the care of legal relatives in the host country, whilst their parent/s were deported, it doesn't seem to be legally ratified, and is up to each member country of the E.E.C. to decide their citizenship.

Reading this makes the legal status of such children even more confused.

Birthright citizenship as nationality of convenience

Eric 19-03-2009 23:55

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 694107)
In answer to your question , dont believe there is a common rule in the EU about nationality being automatic to your place of birth , Each EU country still applies its own rules , know for a fact that a children born to Turkish (non-citizen German) parents in Germany are classed as Turkish (no automatic German Passport) .
Also a child born in the US to Irish immigrant parents (green card holders, but not yet citizens) automatically gets a US passport but also qualifies for an Irish passport.

Like the old saying , Just because the cat has kittens in the oven , don't make them biscuits"

Interesting ... hadn't given it much thought; but it does make sense that each country sets its own rules ... but I did check it out with a legally inclined friend of mine, and, sure enough, any child born in Canada is Canadian. There seems to be some quibble tho' about dual citizenship ...

Like the saying by the way .... reminds me of that brilliant retort to one of Sarah Palin's blunders: "just because I can see the moon from my backyard etc."

steeljack 20-03-2009 04:05

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 694348)
Although there are many cases of the offspring of illegal immigrants being granted citizenship of a country where they were born, and left in the care of legal relatives in the host country, whilst their parent/s were deported, it doesn't seem to be legally ratified, and is up to each member country of the E.E.C. to decide their citizenship.

Reading this makes the legal status of such children even more confused.

Birthright citizenship as nationality of convenience


interesting reading , Thanks

Gordie 22-03-2009 13:18

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 693325)
Oh its back Rindi:eek::eek::eek: thought he'd seen the light and joined a monastery, but alas not

Here we go,the two flying hand bags are ganging up

Stumped 22-03-2009 17:42

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 694132)
I think in Jack, the man of Straw's case, he's trying to keep all the balls in the air whilst juggling the problem of retaining his own place on the gravy train at the next G.E. Stumped:rolleyes:

And now we hear that the post-office worker has been transferred on the basis of a petition instigated and compiled by the local muslims. When are the powers that be going to wake up to the fact that the sole objective of these people is to take over the UK by whatever means comes to hand. The sad fact is that the authorities just sit back on their well endowed haunches, wring their wretched hands and let it happen. Old Enoch will be watching from his cloud base and laughing his socks off.

mani 22-03-2009 21:23

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a quick thought.

alot of brits have gone to places such as saudi and dubai to make ALOT of money. there's no denying alot of brits have got very very rich from workin in arab countries.

those arab countries flex their own laws, turn a blind eye just so that those brits can feel a lil more comfy. they allow alcohol to be consumed in public where normally it'd be hands chopped off. they give leeway and a certain flex to accomodate the foriegners.

should those brits do the whole when in rome too?

Margaret Pilkington 22-03-2009 21:40

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I think the answer to that has to be 'yes'.
Though if the Brits wish to consume alcohol then it should be done discreetly in their own homes or compounds.

when they take these jobs they must surely be told of the cultural differences, and they should abide by them if they want to work in that country.

cashman 22-03-2009 21:53

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i would say yeh mani, i blame those countries fer allowing it, the law should apply to everyone. simple as.

West Ender 22-03-2009 22:02

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It's 25 years since I lived in Saudi Arabia but, I can assure you, there was no tolerance of any other religion or culture.

At Christmas I could buy cards to send to my friends and family at home but none of them said the word "Christmas" because it wasn't allowed. It was "Happy Holiday". A Lebanese catholic priest was expelled from the country, simply for saying mass for the Lebanese in Riyadh. He worked as an engineer by day.

I couldn't go out without my husband, couldn't drive a car, couldn't be seen with bare arms or legs. Alcohol was not tolerated except, I believe, in the Aramco site, which was an Arab/American oil company.

Oh yes, I think we should do as other countries do.

Roy 22-03-2009 22:07

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Originally Posted by mani (Post 695555)
a quick thought.
alot of brits have gone to places such as saudi and dubai to make ALOT of money. there's no denying alot of brits have got very very rich from workin in arab countries.
those arab countries flex their own laws, turn a blind eye just so that those brits can feel a lil more comfy. they allow alcohol to be consumed in public where normally it'd be hands chopped off. they give leeway and a certain flex to accomodate the foriegners.
should those brits do the whole when in rome too?

Having worked in Saudi(Jeddah to be precise) I feel I can comment here... Alchohol is still very much not allowed in public, or in private. If you get caught drunk its 50 public lashings, if your lucky. Foreigners working there generally keep themselves to themselves and stick together in private communities, which are heavily guarded. Bibles are not allowed, and I got hassle on entry to the country one time just because my middle name is Christopher!? If your a foreigner and involved in a car crash it is immediately your fault, because if you hadn't have been there then the local would not have been in an accident. Anyone who has had any dealings with the Commission For The Promotion Of Virtue And Prevention Of Vice in Saudi will know you don't mess with the laws of this country.
So I can safely say that when I was in Saudi I did not act like I do when I am in a 'normal' country. I was completely not myself, as I had no choice in the matter at all.

Royboy39 22-03-2009 22:17

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I spent a lot of time in Malaya which is a Muslim Country and there were no restriction on alchohol whatsoever.

garinda 23-03-2009 11:03

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Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 695470)
And now we hear that the post-office worker has been transferred on the basis of a petition instigated and compiled by the local muslims.

Let's not forget that this man was an employee.

Whatever his frustrations are it's not his job to decide who is and isn't served in his employer's Post Office.

In my job I dealt with many customers who spoke little or no English. My boss wouldn't have been too happy if I'd have refused to accept their custom.

I guess most of us would be equally angry if on holiday we were refused service in a Post Office, whilst trying to buy stamps, because our Turkish/Greek/French wasn't up to scratch.

As for Mani's comments about Brits working in predominantly Muslim countries. Some countries, Dubai for example, have a liberal policy when it comes to drink, because it benefits their planned tourist industry. Although there was the recent case of two people being imprisoned for public indecency, when they had sex in public at a beach bar.

On the other hand there are countries where alcohol consumption and recreational drugs are severely punished, and there are cases of British workers and/or their offspring facing the severest penalties for breaking the laws of their host countries.

Wherever people chose to live or work, they should abide by the customs and laws of their host countries, or be prepared to face the consequences if they decide they aren't going to show that respect.

Taggy 23-03-2009 12:17

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Originally Posted by mani (Post 695555)
a quick thought.

alot of brits have gone to places such as saudi and dubai to make ALOT of money. there's no denying alot of brits have got very very rich from workin in arab countries.

those arab countries flex their own laws, turn a blind eye just so that those brits can feel a lil more comfy. they allow alcohol to be consumed in public where normally it'd be hands chopped off. they give leeway and a certain flex to accomodate the foriegners.

should those brits do the whole when in rome too?

Dont think many British people have gone out there to milk the benefit system though!


Best Regards - Taggy

jaysay 23-03-2009 16:04

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Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 695655)
Dont think many British people have gone out there to milk the benefit system though!


Best Regards - Taggy

Nice one Taggy

Margaret Pilkington 23-03-2009 17:38

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The benefits system is there...and it is the fault of the government if people come here and play the system.
The system should require that you have paid into it to get benefits.(In which case some of our own population would not qualify for benefits)
Some truly destitue people should get limited help....and they should have to pay back the cost once they are working.

There should be economic rules for migrants - they must be able to show that they have 1) a job.
2) enough money to sustain them for a period of two years
3) somewhere to live - be that a home that they have found before coming
into the country/or family members who they can live with.
If they cannot show proof of these things then they should not be allowed in.......someone has got to get real pretty soon, or our island is going to sink.

But then implementing such measures would require better skills than this governmemt has(for all its posturing and tinkering at the edges - the benefits system requires radical reform.....and they haven't got the cojones to do it).

planetsusie 23-03-2009 19:23

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Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 691416)
In the light of recent events where a fanatical bunch of no-marks have barracked our troops during a welcome home parade at Luton, is it not time that we re-evaluated our supposedly tolerant approach to the policies of multicultereralism that recent governments have hammered us with.
:behead::behead::behead:

Oh indeed.

Royboy39 23-03-2009 20:39

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 695783)
The benefits system is there...and it is the fault of the government if people come here and play the system.
The system should require that you have paid into it to get benefits.(In which case some of our own population would not qualify for benefits)
Some truly destitue people should get limited help....and they should have to pay back the cost once they are working.

There should be economic rules for migrants - they must be able to show that they have 1) a job.
2) enough money to sustain them for a period of two years
3) somewhere to live - be that a home that they have found before coming
into the country/or family members who they can live with.
If they cannot show proof of these things then they should not be allowed in.......someone has got to get real pretty soon, or our island is going to sink.

But then implementing such measures would require better skills than this governmemt has(for all its posturing and tinkering at the edges - the benefits system requires radical reform.....and they haven't got the cojones to do it).

Margaret, that is a brilliant synopsis of how things should be, and I give you credit. It would be interesting to hear the opinions of local politicians and indeed the elected MP's on the situation?
I may live in Spain but it may not be forever. I have a right to come back to the UK as a citizen with a British passport whenever the mood takes my family and I.
I still retain the right to vote in the UK as do a lot of ex-pats and the state of the pound and the state of the country does not go down well in the community.
I, as well as many Brits think the s... will hit the fan sooner rather than later and I hope the politicians of all parties realise that now.

Margaret Pilkington 23-03-2009 20:47

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Thanks for your comment Royboy.
I doubt whether any politicians would even consider implementing these rules.
As I said in my post, they are all interested in spouting weasel words, but cannot follow any of them with the decisive action that is needed....and all parties are equally guilty of tinkering around the edges of the welfare system, but no-one making any real changes.
It doesn't take an Einstein to see that before too long, there are going to be far too many folk taking out of the communal pot and not enough folk contributing to the communal pot.......and by then it will be too late.

Margaret Pilkington 23-03-2009 20:57

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You only have to look at the calibre of the MP's who are in office at present to realise that they are all in it to feather their own nests.......so they will have pensions that will guarantee they won't be on the breadline.

They are all drawing hefty salaries and then they get allowances too.......they earn more in a year that I probably have earned in my life. so they are far removed from the real world...the world that you and I inhabit....so they don't see the problem.

Another reason why they won't take the decisive action that is required is, it would lose them the votes of the folk who are drawing these benefits....and without being racist, a lot of the ethnic minorities vote for these politicians......and would not do so if they thought the benefits gravy train was going to run dry.

That is my opinion...for what it is worth. Now I am going to duck and await the negative Karma.

cashman 23-03-2009 21:00

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only the P.C. dylans will call ya racist or give ya negative, cashy will not.;)

Royboy39 23-03-2009 21:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 695865)
You only have to look at the calibre of the MP's who are in office at present to realise that they are all in it to feather their own nests.......so they will have pensions that will guarantee they won't be on the breadline.

They are all drawing hefty salaries and then they get allowances too.......they earn more in a year that I probably have earned in my life. so they are far removed from the real world...the world that you and I inhabit....so they don't see the problem.

Another reason why they won't take the decisive action that is required is, it would lose them the votes of the folk who are drawing these benefits....and without being racist, a lot of the ethnic minorities vote for these politicians......and would not do so if they thought the benefits gravy train was going to run dry.

That is my opinion...for what it is worth. Now I am going to duck and await the negative Karma.

Take a good one from me Margaret.

Royboy39 23-03-2009 21:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 695869)
Take a good one from me Margaret.

Wont let me.....owe you one. :)

Margaret Pilkington 23-03-2009 21:06

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Tis OK Royboy....just pleased to hear there are some folk out there who can see some sense in my ramblings.

K-P 24-03-2009 02:21

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Engerland Engerland Engerland!

http://www.kipax.com/mbgfx/english.jpg

jaysay 24-03-2009 09:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 695783)
The benefits system is there...and it is the fault of the government if people come here and play the system.
The system should require that you have paid into it to get benefits.(In which case some of our own population would not qualify for benefits)
Some truly destitue people should get limited help....and they should have to pay back the cost once they are working.

There should be economic rules for migrants - they must be able to show that they have 1) a job.
2) enough money to sustain them for a period of two years
3) somewhere to live - be that a home that they have found before coming
into the country/or family members who they can live with.
If they cannot show proof of these things then they should not be allowed in.......someone has got to get real pretty soon, or our island is going to sink.

But then implementing such measures would require better skills than this governmemt has(for all its posturing and tinkering at the edges - the benefits system requires radical reform.....and they haven't got the cojones to do it).

Spot on Margaret, I can remember a few years ago, I was in E3 at Queens Park and they brought this elderly Asian gentleman into the next bed, he couldn't speak a word of English. Then the doctor came around his son-in-law was there to act as interpreter, they pulled the curtains round as usual, but you could still hear what was said. The doctor asked how long this man had been in the country, the reply nearly had me falling out of bed. Well, he said, he never wanted to come to Britain until he started being ill, wonderful:(

planetsusie 24-03-2009 09:41

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I recognise that Jaysay.

Gordie 24-03-2009 12:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 695955)
Spot on Margaret, I can remember a few years ago, I was in E3 at Queens Park and they brought this elderly Asian gentleman into the next bed, he couldn't speak a word of English. Then the doctor came around his son-in-law was there to act as interpreter, they pulled the curtains round as usual, but you could still hear what was said. The doctor asked how long this man had been in the country, the reply nearly had me falling out of bed. Well, he said, he never wanted to come to Britain until he started being ill, wonderful:(

Well said Maggie:flamethro

Royboy39 24-03-2009 13:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 696041)
Well said Maggie:flamethro

It would be very interesting to know.
Are you on leave from Broadmoor or high on Kellogs? :dummy:

jaysay 24-03-2009 16:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 696047)
It would be very interesting to know.
Are you on leave from Broadmoor or high on Kellogs? :dummy:

Roy just ignore him, he goes away or gets ratted again and goes back to sleep:p:drunk::s_bubble:

Gordie 25-03-2009 15:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 696047)
It would be very interesting to know.
Are you on leave from Broadmoor or high on Kellogs? :dummy:

Who rattled your cage girlieboy :dummy2: I see your also in the flying hand bag brigade,

Stumped 27-03-2009 17:30

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According to todays Daily Express (27.3.09) the post-clerk has been told by his employer that his services are no longer required. He is quoted as stating that he will look into opening his own business and ensure that his policy of not serving non-English speaking customers will be applied. Ah well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

garinda 27-03-2009 17:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 697420)
According to todays Daily Express (27.3.09) the post-clerk has been told by his employer that his services are no longer required. He is quoted as stating that he will look into opening his own business and ensure that his policy of not serving non-English speaking customers will be applied. Ah well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He can do what he wants when he has his own business, and not employed by someone else to serve the public.

Though if he next decides disabled people take too long buying their stamps, and decides their custom is no longer welcome, they like other groups are protected by law from discrimination.;)

Mancie 27-03-2009 17:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 695955)
Spot on Margaret, I can remember a few years ago, I was in E3 at Queens Park and they brought this elderly Asian gentleman into the next bed, he couldn't speak a word of English. Then the doctor came around his son-in-law was there to act as interpreter, they pulled the curtains round as usual, but you could still hear what was said. The doctor asked how long this man had been in the country, the reply nearly had me falling out of bed. Well, he said, he never wanted to come to Britain until he started being ill, wonderful:(

mind you it could have been worse....I mean just imagine...the bloke could have been German for gods sake!:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 27-03-2009 18:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 697442)
mind you it could have been worse....I mean just imagine...the bloke could have been German for gods sake!:rolleyes:

The difference there, being that if the man had been German then there would be a very good chance that he would not need an interpreter.......he would probably speak English very well as it has been part of the curriculum in school over there for a very long time.

And you tar the members of Accyweb with the racist brush....well pardon me, but isn't that post just a little bit racist...or does the smiley absolve you from that crime?

garinda 27-03-2009 18:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 697458)
The difference there, being that if the man had been German then there would be a very good chance that he would not need an interpreter.......he would probably speak English very well as it has been part of the curriculum in school over there for a very long time.

And you tar the members of Accyweb with the racist brush....well pardon me, but isn't that post just a little bit racist...or does the smiley absolve you from that crime?

Perhaps we aren't all racists until a certain amount of alcohol or chemical substances have been consumed?:rolleyes::D

Mancie 27-03-2009 18:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 697458)
The difference there, being that if the man had been German then there would be a very good chance that he would not need an interpreter.......he would probably speak English very well as it has been part of the curriculum in school over there for a very long time.

And you tar the members of Accyweb with the racist brush....well pardon me, but isn't that post just a little bit racist...or does the smiley absolve you from that crime?

of course I was making a point in a sarcastic manner..... and you have just proved my point by jumping to the defence of my reference to Germans... I haven't notice you be so quick to defend asians or black people when they get slagged off on here!

Mancie 27-03-2009 18:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 697462)
Perhaps we aren't all racists until a certain amount of alcohol or chemical substances have been consumed?:rolleyes::D

Speak for yourself mate...you been snorting the cleaning powder ?do yerself a favour...buy the real stuff it's better for you in the long run. ;)

garinda 27-03-2009 18:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 697477)
Speak for yourself mate...you been snorting the cleaning powder ?do yerself a favour...buy the real stuff it's better for you in the long run. ;)

I already have to take enough prescription drugs to help me to fuction to a lesser extent, so I'll pass on the cocaine thanks.

I'd hate to end up like you...mate.;)

Crabby 27-03-2009 20:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 691416)
In the light of recent events where a fanatical bunch of no-marks have barracked our troops during a welcome home parade at Luton, is it not time that we re-evaluated our supposedly tolerant approach to the policies of multicultereralism that recent governments have hammered us with.
:behead::behead::behead:

Simpls should have shot them all and the fue million that complined afterwords:uzi:

Mancie 28-03-2009 04:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 697458)
The difference there, being that if the man had been German then there would be a very good chance that he would not need an interpreter.......he would probably speak English very well as it has been part of the curriculum in school over there for a very long time.

And you tar the members of Accyweb with the racist brush....well pardon me, but isn't that post just a little bit racist...or does the smiley absolve you from that crime?

yes my post was just a liitle bit racist...but then I do have a basic knowledge of history....jamming millions of men, women and children into gas chambers..should that be forgotten?.. and should the IRA bombings be forgotten?... maybe it's worth remembering that the Nazis started off by generating a population of mass murderers by a gentle and slow proccess of picking on jews and non Germans..and eventually almost the whole population joined in ... we think it could not happen here... but it is a start.

Margaret Pilkington 28-03-2009 08:01

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I also have some knowledge of history too.
My Father was blown up at the D-day landings.......but we are talking a long time ago now.......and many of the Germans who were the perpetrators of those atrocities are long dead and are answering for their crimes to their maker.

So from your answer I guess that you think that a race of people, who have done wrong in the past, must pay for it in perpetuity.......the sins of the fathers, and all that.

Surely you don't believe that this justifies racism, but then perhaps you do........and are therefore no different from those whom you label racist.

Mancie 28-03-2009 08:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 697665)
I also have some knowledge of history too.
My Father was blown up at the D-day landings.......but we are talking a long time ago now.......and many of the Germans who were the perpetrators of those atrocities are long dead and are answering for their crimes to their maker.

So from your answer I guess that you think that a race of people, who have done wrong in the past, must pay for it in perpetuity.......the sins of the fathers, and all that.

Surely you don't believe that this justifies racism, but then perhaps you do........and are therefore no different from those whom you label racist.

I think that a race that managed to design factories for the sole purpose of killing millions of women and children should have to pay... and it may have been along time ago( is say 70yrs along time)...I don't know of any other race that murdered so many people on a mass scale.. so why should I tip toe around any Germans?..the sins of the Muslim extremists are here and now and we should fight them to the death..but until time tells me they are all to blame I can't see any real reason to "send em home".. or.. "give me a gun I'll get rid of em".. sort of stuff that is posted on this site.. people here must be wearing very dark glasses if they have not seen these posts.. or am I dreaming?

Margaret Pilkington 28-03-2009 08:44

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I have seen these posts too.......but do not feel that because I have seen them, it makes me one of them too.

I think you are just as guilty of the crime that you load onto the fellow members of Accyweb.

I do not feel that the atrocites that happened during the second world war should be forgotten, but I don't think it is right, sensible, or fair to judge the German nation of today with the crimes that happend many years ago.
We remember so that we do not make the same mistakes again.

And if you think that the atrocites that were carried out by the Germans were the only ones in History then I suggest that you go back to the books and do some more research.

Mancie 28-03-2009 08:54

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I'll go along with that Margaret.. no problem.. so why do we bunch anyone that ain't white as a bunch of scrounging non english speaking scum?.

jaysay 28-03-2009 09:02

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Mancie my post wasn't racist, I was merely pointing out something that is happening all to often, people who have never wanted to live here but then want on cash in on our health service. As I've said time and again on here, I haven't got problem people coming to this country providing they contribute, but examples like the one I mentioned are taking the pee, and that I may add is not an isolated case either. You can't go to any other country in the world and get free health care, in most countries if you haven't paid into the system you don't get treated, I think Spain is a prime example of this.

Margaret Pilkington 28-03-2009 09:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 697686)
I'll go along with that Margaret.. no problem.. so why do we bunch anyone that ain't white as a bunch of scrounging non english speaking scum?.


Do we?

And is that the 'Royal' we.

I think it is possible that we all fall into this trap at times, but that doesn't warrant being designated as a racist.

jaysay 28-03-2009 10:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 697707)
Do we?

And is that the 'Royal' we.

I think it is possible that we all fall into this trap at times, but that doesn't warrant being designated as a racist.

Got to agree Margaret. At the moment there are 2 million of our own people out of work, so why let more people into the country, they're only here as benefit tourists, because they get far better treatment here than their own countries, and to me that's crazy to say the least

Margaret Pilkington 28-03-2009 10:41

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As I said in an earlier post, we have to apply economic rules to migrants......even if this hasn't been done in the past.
I feel that without this form of monitoring of the funds of migrants we will be increasingly overwhelmed by the benefit demands of those who have not(and probably will not) pay into the system.
The whole of the benefits system require a root and branch overhaul of major proportions.
Successive governments(of all colours...and not in the racist sense) have tinkered around the edges, and not made any real differences.

To be honest I can't see it happening soon.

cashman 28-03-2009 11:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 697689)
Mancie my post wasn't racist, I was merely pointing out something that is happening all to often, people who have never wanted to live here but then want on cash in on our health service. As I've said time and again on here, I haven't got problem people coming to this country providing they contribute, but examples like the one I mentioned are taking the pee, and that I may add is not an isolated case either. You can't go to any other country in the world and get free health care, in most countries if you haven't paid into the system you don't get treated, I think Spain is a prime example of this.

spain is you are quite correct as no doubt royboy will verify, all you have said i wholly agree with, though must point out i have never blamed the immigrants, just the "SYSTEM" that allows this.

Bagpuss 28-03-2009 12:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 697686)
so why do we bunch anyone that ain't white as a bunch of scrounging non english speaking scum?.

There you go again mancie, another racist post, not all non English speaking scum are black.:rolleyes:;)

jaysay 28-03-2009 12:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 697746)
spain is you are quite correct as no doubt royboy will verify, all you have said i wholly agree with, though must point out i have never blamed the immigrants, just the "SYSTEM" that allows this.

Of course its the system cashy, an open door policy which is in operation at the moment has seen immigrant numbers to increase by 1 million in the last four years, and no one is going to tell me they have all come looking for work, its well known the Britain is an easy touch

Royboy39 28-03-2009 13:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 697746)
spain is you are quite correct as no doubt royboy will verify, all you have said i wholly agree with, though must point out i have never blamed the immigrants, just the "SYSTEM" that allows this.

Spain............Pay now't.......get now't

Bagpuss 28-03-2009 17:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 697814)
Spain............Pay now't.......get now't

UK...........Pay now't.........get everything especially if you're an immigrant:(:(:mad:

Stumped 28-03-2009 19:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 697433)
He can do what he wants when he has his own business, and not employed by someone else to serve the public.

Though if he next decides disabled people take too long buying their stamps, and decides their custom is no longer welcome, they like other groups are protected by law from discrimination.;)

Touche.

Stumped 13-09-2009 15:26

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According to the week-end press, the Mullah's have set up a T.V. Station which shows a Muslim flag flying over Parliament and Big Ben. Chances of that happening? Think about it. Certain areas are fast becoming swamped with Muslims through immigration and excessive breeding. When did you last see a Muslim woman who wasn't pregnant? Schools are oversubscribed. The N.H.S. is at bursting point. It it, therefore, not too difficult to envisage that Muslims will soon be electing their own M.P's as the indiginous population seem somehow reluctant to vote, and the current adminstration (mainly Scots) seem hell bent on destroying the native culture of the United Kingdom and England in particular. Granted, this will be taken by some as a prejudicial posting, but I would argue otherwise as I believe I am only stating the facts of what will surely become obvious in the not too distant future.

Restless 16-09-2009 16:37

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it surely is a multicultural world....

I cant wait till all the aliens land and the government let them stay here and work. Oh and dont forget the outsourcing to other planets...then i will listen for the the moans and groans of fascists, bigots and xenophobes of this country...:cough i mean world.. Come on people lets hate everybody...

I of course hope and pray for the fall of all religions....

Stumped 16-09-2009 18:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 745514)
it surely is a multicultural world....

I cant wait till all the aliens land and the government let them stay here and work. Oh and dont forget the outsourcing to other planets...then i will listen for the the moans and groans of fascists, bigots and xenophobes of this country...:cough i mean world.. Come on people lets hate everybody...

I of course hope and pray for the fall of all religions....

So which planet are you from?

MargaretR 16-09-2009 18:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 745514)
it surely is a multicultural world....

I cant wait till all the aliens land and the government let them stay here and work.

What makes you think that they haven't landed already?
.......and they decided to let US stay here and work:D

Eric 16-09-2009 18:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 745534)
So which planet are you from?

Have you considered that many folks aren't responding because they tend to agree with you and may not wish to admit it? .... I don't mean the rhetoric, but the underlying idea. Militant islam is not a religion, it's a plague, much like the KKK, the Aryan Nations and the NSDAP. I think I mentioned before that, in my colonial opinion, multiculturalism is not for England .... you have a culture, one developed over centuries; hold on to it. Not the same for us here in the colonies. We are all from somewhere else ... apart from the First Nations. So, here it works, sort of. Although with the mounting casualties in Afghanistan (now up to 130 KIA) and the bs election there, Islamophobia is on the rise. Muslims are bitching about being insulted in the streets ... Tough titty .... a lot of Kingstonians are real po'd about the dead bodies of four muslim women turning up in one of our national treasures, the alleged victims of their father, mother, and brother ... seems it was a matter of honor.:rolleyes:

Royboy39 16-09-2009 20:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 745535)
What makes you think that they haven't landed already?
.......and they decided to let US stay here and work:D

Margaret.....for the first time in a long time...I agree with you.

Eric 16-09-2009 20:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 745569)
Margaret.....for the first time in a long time...I agree with you.

So, the unemployed pimples on the ass of society are aliens:confused:

Royboy39 16-09-2009 21:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 745573)
So, the unemployed pimples on the ass of society are aliens:confused:

If the definition is unwelcomed guests....I would say yes. :)

Restless 16-09-2009 21:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 745551)
Militant islam is not a religion, it's a plague

IMO all religions are the plague on this planet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 745534)
So which planet are you from?

planet dont give a f**k...

...actually planet earth just in case you are not sure

Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 745535)
What makes you think that they haven't landed already?
.......and they decided to let US stay here and work:D

now that is a good question!

Wynonie Harris 16-09-2009 21:53

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Of course, the aliens have landed, and they're taking over. Five minutes of watching and listening to Gordon Brown should tell you that!

Bagpuss 16-09-2009 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 745514)
Come on people lets hate everybody...

I already do:)

Restless 16-09-2009 22:00

Re: Multiculteral Britain - A No,No?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 745586)
Of course, the aliens have landed, and they're taking over. Five minutes of watching and listening to Gordon Brown should tell you that!

LOL like a puppet on a string isnt he :D well according to some people....and i think there are a few on them on this site. Aliens have been controlling our lives for thousand of years..interbreeding with humanity and all that crap



Also what i dont get is why people want to come to this bloody crap country in the first place.....and why people are so damn uptight about it..... I wish i could just hop on a boat in a crate of apples and sneak into america...go live in maine, new england..or perhaps californa or maybe Canada....
But then again why send asylum seekers to get beheaded or something. I heard a story of a woman being buried up to her neck in sand and being stoned to death for adultry...if that happened here you would see it every morning on the f**king jeremy kyle show... So could you happily send somebody back to barbaric countries to face that???

cashman 16-09-2009 23:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 745589)
So could you happily send somebody back to barbaric countries to face that???

in a word YES:D

Mancie 17-09-2009 00:23

Re: Multiculteral Britain - A No,No?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 744864)
According to the week-end press, the Mullah's have set up a T.V. Station which shows a Muslim flag flying over Parliament and Big Ben. Chances of that happening? Think about it. Certain areas are fast becoming swamped with Muslims through immigration and excessive breeding. When did you last see a Muslim woman who wasn't pregnant? Schools are oversubscribed. The N.H.S. is at bursting point. It it, therefore, not too difficult to envisage that Muslims will soon be electing their own M.P's as the indiginous population seem somehow reluctant to vote, and the current adminstration (mainly Scots) seem hell bent on destroying the native culture of the United Kingdom and England in particular. Granted, this will be taken by some as a prejudicial posting, but I would argue otherwise as I believe I am only stating the facts of what will surely become obvious in the not too distant future.

No mention of "multi-culture" in your post... just a long winded speech.
Your original thread mentions Britain but now you have boiled it down to England when you blame the Scots..."when did you last see a muslim woman that was not pregnant?" are you an 11yr old?
I agree with Restless one this one because religion is the problem..it's not racial.

jaysay 17-09-2009 08:46

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There's a new program Started on Ski about Board Police, the number of Afghans who were caught trying to enter Britain illegally was a joke. We have our troops being killed every day in Afghanistan, and these people are trying to enter this county, not once but twice sometimes three times. why should our lads be giving up their lives when these people aren't prepared to stay and help rid their own country of the Taliban

LYNX1 17-09-2009 08:52

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 745629)
There's a new program Started on Ski about Board Police, the number of Afghans who were caught trying to enter Britain illegally was a joke. We have our troops being killed every day in Afghanistan, and these people are trying to enter this county, not once but twice sometimes three times. why should our lads be giving up their lives when these people aren't prepared to stay and help rid their own country of the Taliban

Why should they bother jaysay when they got our lads doing it for them, and some getting killed in the process :(

jaysay 17-09-2009 09:41

Re: Multicultural Britain - A No,No?
 
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Originally Posted by LYNX1 (Post 745630)
Why should they bother jaysay when they got our lads doing it for them, and some getting killed in the process :(

Isn't that whats so bloody stupid, they don't give a toss for their own country and our lads are giving their lives trying to sort their problems out for them, what an absolute waste

BERNADETTE 17-09-2009 12:04

Re: Multiculteral Britain - A No,No?
 
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 745629)
There's a new program Started on Ski about Board Police, the number of Afghans who were caught trying to enter Britain illegally was a joke. We have our troops being killed every day in Afghanistan, and these people are trying to enter this county, not once but twice sometimes three times. why should our lads be giving up their lives when these people aren't prepared to stay and help rid their own country of the Taliban

I have been watching this programme and anybody who can't see by now that this country is seen as a soft touch needs their eyes testing. It would be interesting to know just how many are in this country illegally!!!

cashman 17-09-2009 12:45

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we watched a programme last week, police were raiding restraunts etc in glasgow, catching illegal immigrants working in em etc, most of em said they LOST there PASSPORT, so therefore no powers to send em back, so police are knackered just tell em not allowed to work, they actually caught one guy the previous week working at another restraunt, i mean hell whats goin on in this country? its more than taking the pish, its rubbing our noses in it.:mad: so what does ANY party intend to do about this joke of a system?

LYNX1 17-09-2009 14:19

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If anything was going to be done, it would have happened by now.......the problem lies with the government, they pussy foot round everyone (except the British)...we obviously count for nothing in this not so fair land..:(


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