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Mmmm, just reading a report on teh BBC about teh Pope
He has stated that in Africa even to stop teh spread of AIDs people should not use a condom. yet, one of teh core 10 commandmants that surely outrank any catholic "view" is "Thought shalt not kill". so if you are infected and don't use one you are breaking a greater 'law' Thoughts anyone? |
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i suppose that would be classed as 'the work of the lord' afterall i suppose the pope would say thats how 'god' works (by lessening the population)
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Lessening world population is a multinational agenda - hadn't you noticed?
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where in the Bible does it say... Thou shalt not wear a condom
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lol they guys a nut and anyone who follows any religion to the letter to the extent that it would cost them their lives is just as stupid
after all ,all religions are variations of nothing more than a fairy tale designed to keep the guilable in order as uaual i will have upset at least one bible thumper so i guess the red stuff coming my way will be gods will :D maybe their god will fix my keyoard it keeps missing letters out it seems i have a few dodgy keys |
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You are meant to accept all the children you are given and not do anything to refuse them. Contraception would go against that.
It's not about the Pope wanted people to die, but the idea is that God would save you if you were meant to live, i.e. you wouldn't catch the illness. Maybe people just shouldn't have sex, that would be a good start. Sex isn't a compulsory part of life afterall. And I imagine a lot of the women get the AIDs through being raped, and rapists in Africa probably don't give a damn about condoms regardless of what the Pope says |
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the pope is a sheer moron and shut keep his nazi gob shut , his words could if acted upon kill more people than his buddy hiltler ever did
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Well I'm a practicing catholic, and I have never understood the attitude of the church on this issue, in any walk of life there is no need for unwanted pregnancies and with the spread of STDs the use of condoms makes a lot of science to me, especially when you see the devastating effects Aids has had on countries such as Africa
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bless you my child :D |
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Best Regards - Taggy |
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We are witnessing a planned population cull, (in other ways than Aids too)
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Think on these quotes-
"In many ways rampant population growth is an even more dangerous and subtle threat to the world than nuclear war. The commitment of government to deal with the population issue is of course essential." "There are only two ways of preventing a world with 10 billion inhabitants. Either the birth rate drops or the death rate will rise. There is no other way." There are, of course, many ways to make the death rate increase. In the thermonuclear age war can take care of this very quickly and in a definite way. Famine and disease are the oldest." Robert Mc. Namara, former U.S. Secretary of defense and former president of the World Bank, is presently a member of the board of directors of the Washington Post. *** "I have already written off more than a billion people. These people are in places in Africa, Asia, Latin America. We can't save them. The population crisis and the food supply question dictate that we should not even try. It's a waste of time. These people will suffer from continuous cycles of natural disaster, famine, hunger, flood, drought. Some old fools and young ones may talk of trying to mount a noble effort to help these people. But they can't be saved." General Maxwell Taylor is the former commander-in-chief of the U.S. forces during the Vietnam war, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under President John Kennedy. |
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I have great trouble taking moral advice from a church which tried to cover up the abuse of hundreds, if not thousands of children, by some of it's priests in Ireland and North America, and there is evidence that the cover up went right to the top, with documentary evidence showing priests were removed to other parishes where they went on to abuse again.
Still that's one way of practicing 'safe sex'. Abuse an innocent child. Sick. '..each day AIDS buries another 5,500 men women and children (in sub-Sarahan Africa.)' Cold Statistics I have absolutely no doubt that if Jesus could prevent children suffering and dying today, he'd tell people to use whatever means they had at their disposal to lessen the spread of this terrible disease. |
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What about the ensuing babies too ? ... they should be expect to be born on a level playing field. There is huge amounts of work going on in Africa to help these people, this statement will only be a backward step to their efforts. Or will it ? Maybe now the Africans have a little more knowledge. |
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Surely the responsibility lies with the people who are affected by this??
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Although the problem of A.I.D.S. in Africa is on a massive scale, there are hundreds of thousands of children throughout the rest of the world who are living and dying from this on the whole preventable disease.
ABC News: Suffer the Children: The Smallest Victims of AIDS Andrew Gray | Photos of Japan, Cambodia, Asia | People, Culture, Life in Pictures- powered by SmugMug |
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Little question: In Canada, it is illegal (and carries a severe penalty) to have unprotected sex when one has AIDS, without informing your partner. Are there similar laws in the UK? |
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Okay, I work in Africa, currently spend most of my time here.
Last year I went to Cameroon, Douala to be exact. Spent 3 days there, the Senior Cabin Crew (Purser), was with a very nice African Lady, she was his girlfriend for the time he was there. This hotel had guards and you had to use your door key to get into the lift. Each floor was also guarded. This lady game me her business card and offered to be my girlfriend the next time we were there, for a price of course. I am not saying that she has Aids; or is even HIV+, but would you want to take the risk. There are lots of business men in Africa who are partaking in sex, and are happy to pay for it, this will spread AID's and HIV quicker than rape. Before you get to Condoms, one of my fellow pilots here, remarked to me that he could not get condoms here and this is in Morocco! Glad I am coming home to my girl in a few days? I have not been tempted and won't be. |
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Oh and also, these people are living in abstract poverty, the like which you cannot comprehend, you have to see it. They have nothing to do, sex is a release, children are a side effect so is Aids. Africa is a mess a real mess and what do we do, nothing we could not care one bit
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personaly i couldnt give a toss about africa its just one huge problem that wont go away no matter how much money you throw at it simply becuase its polotics keeping the place the way it is
what offends me is the pope who is basicly a dithering old coot brainwashed into thinking he is some sort of messanger form a god that dosnt exist but seems to think his opinion is that of this imaganary god and that everyone should abide by his or its rules like someone stated earlier , before this idiot opens his mouth to tell others how to live he should sort out the perverts fiddleing with little boys in his own cult before opening his gob and maybe if teh church is so concerne about poverty they could give away the billions of dollars etc thatthey have accumalated in wealth and teasurs which incidently their god says tehy shouldt even have in teh first place everyone is entitled to believe in what they want but they are not entitled to demand others believe in it too i stopped believing in god before i stopped believing in father christmas which is logical because at least there was evidence of father christmas been real with tehe leaving of presants , unfortunatly as i got older i found that evidence to be fabricated :( still awaiting a new keyboard :-) |
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I always feel like when people start saying negative things about religions its like saying negative things about races or cultures and stuff, it makes me feel really uncomfortable.
Not wanting to be part of a religion but I find it pretty offensive when someone starts insisting there isn't a god or whatever if they're being just as preachy as the kind of religious people that try to convert people. It's fine to dislike that and not believe their is a God, but stating something as fact that you just don't know is the truth really bugs me. Just thought I'd throw that in there. Though we have an amazing level of tolerance at Lancaster University and have one combined chaplaincy centre for all the different faiths. Don't often come across atheists that are also intolerant. My friend Si is absolutely awful for it but he also has a reputation for getting everything he says in his seminars wrong so he isn't the best thought out person. If you don't think something exists though then I don't see why you would put that much effort into disliking it. I don't believe in world peace but I don't tend to rant at people who really want it to be possible, not unless I'm drunk anyway but I gave up drinking over a month ago so drunken rants are a thing of my past. |
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The opposition to the use of condoms is of course not Gods doing.. it is an instruction from the Vatican which was thought up not so long ago.... the Vatican does not seem to oppose the use of contrceptive pills as fevervently.
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'..each day AIDS buries another 5,500 men women and children (in sub-Sarahan Africa.)' Cold Statistics I have added a newspaper cutting from the Sunday Express November 1986. Its now March 2009, that makes at 5,500 a day a total of approx 46 million dead. Why is there any body left at this rate, and its evident that all the so called aid programes have'nt been working. If religion was any good, then the way the world has been the last 70 odd years, when's the 2nd coming of christ, what was so special 2000 years ago that was worse than today. Retlaw. |
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i think jesus hasnt had his second coming because his mere tricks of sharing out fish simply cant compare with HDTV ;)
he needs to rethink his game plan if hes gonna come back and get our attention |
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The latest worldwide figures relate to 2007, and reflect the safer sex message condom use brings, and the available drug cocktails which mean people can live with H.I.V., just as long as you have enough money to purchase those drugs, or have been educated that condoms can lessen the spread of the disease. AIDS Deaths in Africa -- AFRICA AIDS DEATH COUNT Worldwide AIDS & HIV Statistics Including Deaths |
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The AZT which is used on Aids patients is just a different way of dying
AZT: Unsafe at any Dose? I repeat - we are witnessing a global population cull disguised in many forms which appear natural but are engineered. |
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Before AZT was introduced the average life expectancy for a H.I.V.+ patient was three years, now it's indefinite, as far as we know. I know someone who's been taking it for over twenty years, and is quite happy and healthy. |
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whatever came of that guy that had HIV then a few years later it was gone from his system
wasit a Case of mixed up blood samples or are they still working on his blood? |
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Some HIV+ people never develop Aids and don't take AZT
If you read the links inside the link I gave you will see that AZT will kill you too - may just take longer. How many on AZT live to be in their late 70s, which is the accepted modest life expectancy now? |
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There are some genetically lucky people who can live with the virus and wouldn't know they had it if they hadn't been tested |
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Johns Hopkins Gazette: January 9, 1995 if she is one of the lucky ones who has the genetic make up to defeat it without drugs |
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Otherwise that word hypocrisy would apply. |
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The chinese earthquake in 2008 occurred because a dam that was built caused the weight of water to stress the junction of tectonic plates 2008 Sichuan earthquake - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia "According to Chinese state officials, the quake caused 69,181 known deaths including 68,636 in Sichuan province; 18,498 people are listed as missing, and 374,171 injured, but these figures may further increase as more reports come in." "An article in Science Magazine suggests that the construction and filling of the Zipingpu Dam may have triggered the earthquake. The chief engineer of the Sichuan Geology and Mineral Bureau finds this hypothesis "very likely". |
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Here is another -The levees protecting New Orleans were designed to fail
2005 levee failures in Greater New Orleans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The original design for the steel sheet foundations for the flood walls showed a proposed depth of 10 feet (3 m), and design documents show that calculations were made with the wall base at 12.8 feet (3.9 m). According to a New Orleans engineer, the depth was apparently later increased to 17 feet (5.1 m), and this is what was built. However, a forensic engineering team from the Louisiana State University, using sonar, showed that at one point near the 17th Street Canal breach, the piling extends just 10 feet (3 m) below sea level, 7 feet (2.1 m) shallower than the Corps of Engineers had maintained. "The Corps keeps saying the piles were 17 feet (5 m), but their own drawings show them to be 10", Ivor van Heerden said. "This is the first time anyone has been able to get a firm fix on what's really down there. And, so far, it's just 10 feet (3 m). Not nearly deep enough."[14] Other reports confirmed that construction on the London Avenue and Industrial Canal levees was similarly below the stated standard.[15] They also found that homeowners along the 17th Street Canal, near the site of the breach, had been reporting their yards flooding from persistent seepage from the canal for a year prior to Hurricane Katrina. Other studies showed the levee floodwalls on the 17th Street Canal were, "destined to fail,", from bad Corps of Engineers design, saying in part, "that miscalculation was so obvious and fundamental," investigators said, they, "could not fathom how the design team of engineers from the Corps, local firm Eustis Engineering, and the national firm Modjeski and Masters could have missed what is being termed the costliest engineering mistake in American history."[15 |
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Nearly 90,000 dead or missing out of a world population of nearly 7 billion can hardly be seen as a deliberate act.
In any case that disaster was an accident or at worst negligence. The Chinese government didn’t spend millions of dollars creating a dam so that it would cause an earthquake and kill a few people. Similarly the New Orleans floods were down to inadequate levees and it would appear skimping on their construction. That could hardly be called a plan by the US government to get rid of some people, mainly those of African origin especially, that in the main it was private companies that built the levees. The skimping was done in the name of more profit. However the Aids virus could, by an X Files stretch of the imagination, have been a deliberate act to target Africans. At the time it was claimed by some that the Ebola outbreak was down to a deliberate act by some world government. No prizes for guessing the most likely one. |
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As more catastrophies happen you may rethink that view. There are also the slower ways - that shorten your lifespan Aspartamine Bad News about products with Aspartame Fluoride The fluoride deception - Google Book Search to name but two. I know that there are reassuring websites for both these chemicals. The fact that we need to be reassured indicates that instinctively we doubt the need for them |
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I have also found this
A History Timeline of Population Control |
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After all lesbians are the group least likely to be affected by the sexual transmission of the H.I.V. virus. |
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You’ll be telling me next that the Titanic disaster was a deliberate act to get rid of a few influential people. Probably all medicines will be detrimental to someone, somewhere. However the continuous attempts to legislate to introduce Fluoride into the water supplies is of great concern. Not so much the Fluoride but the precedent that it would establish. The introduction of chemicals into the food chain is driven by profit not a conspiracy to kill. Come on if you kill off all the consumers who will buy your product? Is that article trying to imply that the 1918-1919 flu pandemic was a deliberate act by some nation? I haven’t the time or inclination to take each case and comment on it but none of it is Population Control but Population extermination. Since time immemorial man has killed man to take over the other guy’s domain and to make room for him and his. Even some animals do it. |
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but nah .. i doubt it |
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