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After walking back from town the other day, i was just thinking which would be the most depressing street in accy to live on, i'm going to say stevenson street west, just because of that horrible factory and its just so dreary, whats everyone else think.

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cant think of a depressing street but thanks to vandals putting a " F " in the right place annie street has provided many a smile over the years

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Horne Street must be one of the most depressing, big factory takes up most of one side with most of the windows boarded up or smashed. Units at the end, and the railway at the top.

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perfect . people can get depressed then walk up the street and throw themselves under a train:D

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Annie street isn't that bad to be honest, try having a wander up Woodnook, I find Belfield Road and a street I used to live on, Clement Street are pretty bloody awful.
Water Street is fairly horrible too.:eek:

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i did actually say annie street wasnt a depressing street , especially with the extra F added to its name :)

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Annie St not a bad street now. If we can find the money to do the road up will be even better.

Horne St as Caz says not to clever. But in the elevate improvement area. Hopefully we can start to make real a difference in the St John's area in the not too distant future.

Water St not to bad Lindsay I would have thought. There are lot worse streets in Accrington. Although I accept lower down Water St not to brilliant.

All three Streets by the way in my ward. I'm getting a bit paranoid

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It's bottom of Water St I was referring to, remains of old building on the right and block of houses on left , several of which look awful, granted it looks a bit better now the one next to Fell and Mountain has been painted! Plus we now have the burnt out house after the tragedy in Feb, still complete with blackened walls. It's my quickest route into town, otherwise I would avoid it. :(

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I take your point, again could well benefit from future funding. The council has appointed consultants to look at that area.

Interestingly, if you look at not just at Water St but other streets in that area, The nearer the town centre the worse condition of the houses.

I have never been able to work out why that should necessarily be the case.

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the whole of accrington is pretty much a krap hole

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A thoughtful and perceptive post there. I can see that you're going to add a lot of intellectual gravitas to Accyweb. :rolleyes:

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:rofl38:...umm..you do realise you have joined a forum called Accrington web?

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In the 1950s, there was a radio programme featuring Max Bygraves. he sang the title song "Our Street is Paradise Street" That made me smile, as Accrington had a Paradise St which ran from Eagle St to the Junction pub. It was anything but Paradise. I knew a very poor family who lived there, and even then thought it was bloody ironic. Knockcing it down was an improvement. There's some sort of health offices there now.

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sadly he kinda has a point , although accrington does have some nice areas the bad ones out number them

no matter how much you polish or dress up a turd its still a turd

accrington needs areas revitalising but sadly all that gets revitalised are teh same areas over and over again

the same houses down blackburn road have been revitalised on at least 2 occasions over the past 10 years, maybe its time to put money in other areas where teh work done will be appreciated and looked after more

also clamping down on landlords who let their properties fall into eyesores

hyndburn homes has a lot to answer for if you ask me, they took on houses from HBC and have done basicly sod all to improve areas and their properties

if you go up rothwell avenue hyndburn homes bought half the houses and saint vincents bought the other half

saint vincents houses have new secure fencing ,outside walls painted ,they were repaired before anyone was allowed to move in while its the total oppposite with Hynburn homes who rent out houses not fit to put a rat in yet alone a human

the only chance you stand of getting a decent home with Hyndburn homes is if you are lucky enough to get a house that has had good tennants in it previously and have carried out repairs themselves

hynburn homes dont do repairs they do temporary fixes and not only have i rented one of their cess pits but know people who have had to put up with walls black with damp , always going without hot water and having to put up with temporary fixes because they wont replace the boiler and have wall paper falling off the walls because roof repairs arnt carried out but rather a bit off goo in the hole to try and stop the leak

as of yet i dont think countour housing A.K.A hydburn homes have followed through on 1 single term of their contract which allowed them to buy these properties and if they have and actually done a good job of it then its a bloomin miracle but they need to do more

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Paradise Street?..that was, well, paradise compared to the dingy and depressing thoroughfare known as Canning Street. Factories at each end, including one which towered over the whole place like a gargantuan beast, down-at-heel, cramped-looking houses, the whole place was enveloped in an eternal gloom even in the height of summer. Definitely the most depressing street in Accy of its time.

PS - apologies to any former residents who may be reading this!

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Were was Canning St Wynonie?

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Between Ranger Street and Richmond Street, Caz. Ran parallel to Scaitcliffe Street, but next one up.

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well Canning St certainly depressed me, went with a bird off yon that stabbed me.:D

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This is because the houses nearer the town centre are smaller in size hense cheaper to buy. These houses have been bought up by private landlords and the story is so familiar after that..............:mad:

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Karma for you when it allows me, Hyndburn Council should take note of these points.

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Think what most people tend to forget is that Accrington streets evolved in the time of the Industrial Revolution, and these houses were gratefully welcomed by the workers being so near their workplaces.

Now we have no textile manufacturing anymore, we are left with this structure and have a harder job than non industrial towns to bring the streets to just being pleasant residential streets. Takes time and money from the council, etc.

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I am in one of hyndburn homes properties and to be honest it isnt that bad. Yes it needed decorating etc when I moved in but soon after moving in they did the kitchen and bathroom (not all quite to my standards but that was the conractors not hyndburn homes themselves) Personally though I think that they should do something with the exteriors (gardens, fencing, general appearance etc) as this is all left to the tenants to do when they move in and can be very difficult and expensive - I am trying to get the garden done, new fencing etc but is proving hard work and havnt had the money to really do anything yet. I have no real problems with the interior but do agree with the "patch work" that has been done inside e.g small spots of filler on the walls that are an eysore if you dont wallpaper them (my interior is about 90% painted with only 1 bedroom wall having wallpaper on it) The rent is low and you do get a very small allowance to decorate when you move in, which i would say would need doing in most cases but think more care should be taken on the outsides of the properties to make them look more presentable.

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I too am disappointed with Hyndburn Homes miserable failure in meeting their promises. When they took over from the council they supplied me with a 4 year schedule of when to expect home improvements - they have not kept to it.

I still struggle with an ancient bathroom, despite my need for a refurb being confirmed by an occupational therapist 2 years ago. I have replaced the unhygenic rotting kitchen cupboard doors at my own expense.

There are rotting soffit boards - a big chunk has dropped out of one such board on the flat next door, and is in full view one foot from my lounge window.
Fire safety is also a problem - I have only one window that I could exit from if my one exit door is blocked by fire - I keep a tow rope handy at all times, in case I need to climb out.

I don't get Housing Benefit, so I do appreciate that the rent is lower than private lettings
BUT - I would gladly pay more for a better standard

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please do not take my comments as been directed at the tennants ,my comments are directed at hydburn homes/contour housing who made agreements with the council that got them the houses instead of a different housing association, they leave a lot of things for teh tennants to do which are expensive.When i moved into one of their properties i spent £500 on decorating materials and around £1500 carpeting the place and within 1 year of hynburn homes not doing repairs to the roof my carpets were destroyed by mould and damp and most of the decorating was also destroyed.

the front of the property had a rickety fence , no gate and sharp nails sticking out of the wooden struts.The rear of the property had no dividing fence for the garden which meant my children could not play in the garden as next door had a dog which also due to been no fence crapped all over my garden.I did offer to save up and pay for a fence but was told it woudl be torn down when they got around to putting up their own which still hasnt happened ( teh garden by the way looked like somone had burried 30 hand grenades and let them off with a mixture of bike frames and sharp leghths of metal half burried in teh soil ))

properties are supposed to be assed by the council as to if they are worth teh rent and hynburn homes houses in my opinion should be revisited and assesed properly and have their rent reduced accordingly until they are up to the standard that is expected of a private renting landlord

again ths is not a dig at the tennants of hynburn homes it is a dig at hyndburn homes who rent some houses out in worse condition than those landlords from hell you see on TV

in many cases the tennants take good care and put plenty of effort into making tehir homes nice but tehir hard work and hard to come by cash is wasted by their landlords reluctance to do essential work on the buildings

apparently i owe hynburn homes £56 as a letter keeps reminding me but to be honest they can simply kiss my backside if they think they are getting it

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:yelrotflm:yelrotflm

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wasnt you was it lol

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Emma street,at the back of the sports centre & Clement St .Potholes both.:rolleyes:

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i must apologise fer me error, its just been pointed out to me,that it was Crown St. my assailant lived on, which was one below Canning St. n it wasn't her who stabbed me pointed it out, before ya ask.:D

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lol there is a nail over there that he just hit on its head :D

accrington is a dump, wish it wasn't but it is the truth no matter which way its glossed over

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yep

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Sadly I think that many areas of Accrington are depressed and run-down.

I grew up on Stanley Street and the area was always clean and the house well-kept. I actually walked around the same area a few weeks ago for the first time in years and many the houses are in a poor state of repair. I beleive that many of those houses are now owned by private landlords who, has already been said, allow these houses to just deteriorate over time. Sadly a member of my own family owns a house around there, rents it out, and has done nothing with it since they bought it.

It was sad to see the area in such disrepair. You can of course blame the landlords and the economic situation of Accrington, but it's also a reflection of the attitudes of people living in that area now. There's no pride anymore and that was clearly evident.

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lol you have to be one with the (k)rapness to live here right?? :tongueout

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I would say steiner street.... living there a long time. Growing up and the like.... but emma street AKA the shortcut to sportsy. There is a depressing street if you ever saw one. How long are the council going to leave that road? Always muddy and fully of MASSIVE puddlesFFS they always seem to be digging at top of steiner street and along the road and then putting it back much to the dull suprise that after a short while it looks exactly the same.

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Unless you live over here please keep comments like that to yourself please. It might be a reflection of the attitudes of SOME OF THE PEOPLE, believe it or not some of us still do have pride. This area is by no means one of the worse but the main reason it appears to be rundown is because of private landlords and the scum they move in, ok most of the scum.:mad:

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i would rather rent private than end up in an areas where housing accociations own the houses(or did at one point) like woodnook, church, fern gore, huncoat ETC...

does that make me scum? hehe

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As I remember Emma Street is unadopted and is not under council control, the people who live on a unadopted road or street are responsible for the upkeep, I once lived on Eagle Street in Ossy which was unadopted, and we had to maintain the roadway ourselves

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hey i didnt know that. How does that come about?

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When the houses were built they were never adopted by the council, there may have been a reason back in those days, occasionally roads are adopted but not often, I think one in Belthorn was few years back, but am not 100% about that:confused:

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I know exactly the kind of person you are, so I'll air my comments as and when I see fit.

When I was growing up in that area some people rented their houses, but they were still seen sweeping the pavement and scrubbing their doorsteps, the same as those people who owned their homes. That's the kind of pride I was referring to.

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I going to stop using that word because lots of decent people rent private.:o

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It must be Cornwall St because not many people know where it is.
But I could be wrong.:)

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to be fair it is a dump and something really needs to be done about.

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Please enlighten me.:)

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Before I married in 1963, I bought a 2-up 2-down house in Persia Street (Next door to Bob Dobson's parents) and lived there for 3-years before selling up and moving away with my job.. Persia Street in those days was populated with house-proud families who took pride in their surroundings, and lay in the heart of the Blackburn Road community with a wide range of shops selling every conceivable item pre-supermarket days. Alas that part of the town has been overtaken by the modern way of life and, I fear, has sunk into the abyss of neglect and depravation. Be interesting to see if the regeneration program succeeds in turning back the clock!

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Lydia Street has to be the most depressing street in Accy

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wellington street is quite depressing for me...

...see seperate post in the landlords thread....

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Accrington Road, Burnley didn't look to sparkling yesterday

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Please enlighten me, I really would like to know.:confused:

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Anyone know the plans for the Peel ward? I couldn't get to the meeting.

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A guess would be more private landlords will be buying up more houses and bringing in more slime to occupy these properties. This will lead to an increase in the drug dealing, late night parties, street fights etc. The local off licenses and Netto will increase their profits by selling to underage drinkers who will then decorate the area with artistic graffti and the old favourite the sick/spew pavement decoration, do I need to go on..............???:(

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The area's that they are talking about in Peel Lindsay. St John's including Burnley Rd, also the streets below Washington St are part of the plans as well.

If you want the more detailed plans for the area, let me know and I'll get you a copy.

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Cheers Bernard, I take it I don't have to worry about my newly decorated living room then?
:)

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Look on here Lindsay ... Seemingly Chris Taylor at HBC is a really top guy who knows his stuff, and would not be averse to speaking direct about this scheme to any of the residents.

East Accrington Masterplan/Supplementary Planning Document - About the Masterplan/Supplementary Planning Document

As you can see public consultation is open until 7th September, so still plenty of time to ask questions and offer your view.


They should also now be on display as you go into the Town Hall, on yer left.

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Interesting, very interesting, I will be finding time to pop into the town hall.

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I've actually smiled for the first time today.:D:D:D

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LOL .. must have been a rotten day then.

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Terrible day but I see a light at the end of a tunnel now.:D

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Never quite sure when you are being sarcastic Bagpuss.. :rolleyes::D

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Cheers for that Kate,it doesn't reach as far up as where I am but anything that makes Water street and Park St, (lower end) look better has my vote!

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I'm not being sarcastic, if some of these plans happen I will be happy, really.

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Yeh .. like Bernard said was in the Peel Ward .. but not aimed politically at all the Peel Ward if you understand, only the areas which needed priority attention.

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He's smiling because of the great weekend he's got lined up...a home win at Stanley tomorrow, then a bit of multicultural mixing in Oakhill Park on Sunday. ;)

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Don't forget Liverpool v Spurs 4pm Sunday:D

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Well, Wynonie ... if he would honour us with his presence at the Accyweb meet tomorrow night .. would be a 'weekend from heaven' for him.

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That might just be the blackspot of the weekend Bagpuss wasn't Spurs one of only two teams to beat Liverpool last season:D:p

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Anyone who knows Peel ward like you do, know that these are the areas that are in the greatest decline.

You're becoming bit cynical. Apparently it can at times be a trait of people who live south of the Load of Mischief in Clayton.

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I think we all know where the blackspot will be this weekend, don't we Gayle?:eek::D

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Sorry Bernard .. don't understand the 'cynical' bit ... I am not commenting at all on the plans, just trying to explain did not cover Peel Park as a ward (which some people may be confused with) ... just an area of Peel Park which requires the most attention ... :confused:

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Apologies Kate, My comment wasn't meant seriously. Just my poor attempt at humour. You're right about the plans for the ward. It's an attempt to deal with the worst areas.

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Stick to the day job then ... :D:D

All a matter of money isn't it ? .... that's why can only deal with one area at a time, before anyone asks.

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As long as that "area" covers the bottom quarter of Water St it will be an improvement...

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Demolition would be the best improvement fer that bit.:rolleyes:

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Iv lived in Hudson St, Royds St, Rothwell Ave and Hopwood St before moving to Ossy. I doubt I could live any them streets ever again. But the neighbourhoods was ok, just the houses and areas run down.

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I went to the town hall after work but there was nobody to talk to only a display of the same stuff available on HBC website, I really wanted to talk to someone just to stop the wifey nagging as from the plans it looks like we could lose our house. I have asked at least 10 people from the peel ward and nobody knew of any meeting not even the residents who live across from Cambridge St Church where the meeting was held, this makes me very wary. Lindsay did you know of this meeting beforehand?

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I don't know Bagpuss .. not involved whatsoever, just interested ... seems this has been on the website, advertised in the press and I understand there was a leaflet drop (maybe only the bottom half though ?). Best to ask Bernard or Graham.

Like I said Chris Taylor seemingly is a very enthusiastic Housing Regeneration Manager, and is willing to talk to anyone about this scheme.. can E-mail or ring the number. No, I don't know him myself .. just someone who does that's all.

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I don't know how many people were notified about the meeting at Cambridge St concerning the plans for the area. The idea of course was to notify as many people as possible.

If it's felt by some people that they would like more information on the plans,than we will set up another meeting.

At the moment we are going through the consultation exercise.And I would add nothing has been decided, nothing set in stone.

One thing I sure we would all agree on is the need for improvements in Peel ward. And this in my opinion represents the best chance for years of achieving that aim.

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Talking to my neighbours nobody knew it was this serious, a couple where going to put their house on the market but that won't happen now, they will never sell. I don't get local papers anymore since The Observer turned into a Manchester paper and there was no leaflet drop on my street. I will try to contact Chris Taylor I have his number but my neighbours want to get some info as well, the options shown on the display are very hard to see who's property is affected although it does look like mine will go, even though I think its one of the better streets.
Agree Bernard something does need to happen but like everyone else I have to think of myself and my family and even though we want to move I always thought it would be when the time is right for us. Some of the options look very good and will certainly improve the area but some of the problems are not with the properties but the people in them.

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I'll try and contact Chris tomorrow as well. I think there's about 3 options for each area. Cost will come into it, but any option chosen will have to have the agreement of the residents of that area.

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I knew nothing about it till Sparkologist mentioned it at the pub one night. I have had no leaflet drop and no info. Though that doesn't suprise me as when I bought my house on Holland St, the plans to demolish it were in the pipeline and nothing was mentioned to me from surveyors report or anywhere else.:confused:

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Thing is Bagpuss ... this is just a bid for funds, and a decent plan has to be put forward to Elevate to be awarded. Residents support and input is always welcome I'm sure. Don't be apathetic (I can see you are not) ... get involved... it's there for the asking :)

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You are just outside the directly affected area (major regeneration) Lindsey (but still within the broader area possible minor regeneration).

Chris Taylor said he leaflet dropped every house in and around the affected area.

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That is not true, as well as Lindsay I know people on Cedar St, Lodge St, Spencer St and Park St that never got a leaflet.:confused:

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So What happens if your house (Mine Is) is in an area that is designated for it to be torn down? (and it goes ahead).

Are there plans to offer alternative (Council) rented accomidation? Will there be any compensation awareded for the hastle and cost?

I too never had anything threw the door and was only told by a neighbour that they could be knocking our houses down?

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Sorry Graham, but have had nothing about it, and if I had I would have been eager to pass it on to my landlord, he owns about half the street here and also knows nothing about it.