Police assault @ G20 protest leads to death
 

Video of police assault on Ian Tomlinson, who died at G20 protest | UK news | guardian.co.uk

Video pretty much says it all

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Horrendous. What a big brave policeman to attack an obviously uninvolved man - and from behind. I hope to God he, at the very least, loses his job and goes to Court but I very much doubt it will happen.

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It looked as though the guy was totally plastered, and had hardly any idea the police were behind him, I also noticed the offending officer looked directly at the camera, and promptly disappeared.

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Like west ender i doubt very much if that copper will see the inside of a court for this, should have the book thrown at him, but they do investigate themselves.:rolleyes:

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seems they (the Police) are damned if they do and then damned again if they don't , at one time they were seen as being above/independant of Politics (apart from the fact they were all Masons), now I'm not so sure :eek: :eek:

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err, he pushed him then later he has a heart attack, how are the two events related? As usual do gooders making mountains out of pimples

He should be grateful he wasn't protesting in France, he would have had a baton bruise or two to go with his collection!

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Its a pity we dont see footage of what happened before the camera started filming. Could he perhaps been involved in an altercation with the police further up that street ?

I agree with the others, at the time he was hit from behind he was walking away, caused no threat etc and had his hands in his pockets.

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oh well that makes it alright then does it?:confused:

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hang on here, we complain when the Police do sod all then winge when faced with a baying mob they stand up to them. I know I wouldn't have like to be a Policeman on that line who for doing nothing but their job become the target of abuse and attack.

Can you all please make up your mind????

Just in case its not clear, mine is

Police to be active and to stop treating crims as 'victims'

peaceful protest should be just that, the Police are not your target so stop striking out at them or suffer the consequences.

Courts should give out proper sentences

40 years for carrying a knife, life(and I mean LIFE) for an unlicensed Gun. GBH a min of 20 years, no parole no playstations, no holiday camps, too many prisoners, fine, offshore them to India/Pakistan for a cheaper cost(I'm more than sure that they would take them for a modest sum per person), once there not our problem, don't like this idea? don;t do the crime.


Am I some weirdo radical or do I actually want this Country to be somewhere worth Living?

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that was assault in anybodys book, a guy walking away, hands in pockets, attacked from behind, its a shame ya can't see that. perhaps yer eyes need testing?

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no-ones arguing about tougher sentences n things what you are implying is that the law as it stands, should NOT apply to policemen. theres plenty of good coppers as there is in any walk of life, if you think what happened on that video is acceptable then yes you are weird IMHO.

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To attack the man from behind without warning is assault without question?

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Interesting read from the daily mail .... The man was not involved in the protests and was actually walking home from work ....

G20 police officer who hit man minutes before he died could face criminal charges | Mail Online

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Like cashman say,s i dont think the copper will see the court room but iam just seen the footage on the new,s and iam shock,t wth what ive seen.

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Not going to take sides on this, but lets remember we are ontly hearing one side of the story here.

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A Boeing says, we are hearing a one sided view. The British press are renowned for witch hunts and this looks just like one to me.

1) he was 'ambling' down a street that Police in full riot gear were trying to clear after being hit with bottles and other missiles. as he was a local papaer seller you can't tell me he 'stumbled' upon an area of these protests? could/should he have taken an alternative route, I certainly would have.

2) you don't know if he was told to move or clear the area .

3) tensions were already running high and this guy seems oblivious to anything thats going on, was he taking the pee or genuinely oblivious(how based on the events that day)

4) In the Police view they have to do a job that isn't easy against a crowd of people seen to be causing violent outbursts.


what would your split second decision be? shove him away out of the way or hold up and be all prissy with him?

No ones mentioned the Police when trying to assist him being pelted with bottles etc?

It was a highly charged environment, is one person being pushed such a big deal? if he hadn't had a heart attack( which I doubt anyone on here can attribute to the events of that video) no one would care two hoots, as it is there is now this wonderful witch hunt for this Policeman and against teh Police themselves.

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how anyone can see this as taking sides baffles me, its seeing what happened with yer own eyes.:(

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Cashy, when I watched the video, he seemed a bit drunk to me, also it appeared once he was on the ground, he was shouting the odds a bit with some bad language. We have been shown a video from the Guardian, it is a edited video and only shows us what they want to show.
We are not in a court of law yet, I do not know all the facts and without them cannot make an informed decision. but as usual judge and jury have taken place here on accyweb.

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he looked a bit drunk to me, thats irrelevant he was assaulted its that simple, he was not aggressive but walking with hands in pockets, no-one knows all the facts, but most people knocked to the ground would have have a few choice words to say, i would imagine, its not taking sides its stating the obvious, which fer some strange reason seems to be eluding you.:confused:

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No I can see what happened, I would like to see what went on before the video started that's all.
There is no doubt that he was pushed by the police officer. It does not instantly mean that he was innocent and the copper guilty, I was under the impression we had courts for that sort of thing.

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no it don't mean he was innocent, it means whatever, he was walking away hands in pockets, to be violently pushed in the back, flooring him, that is not acceptable behavior fer a police officer, unless of course you think the law does not apply to them? :confused: you or i would be prosecuted fer that action.

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I (and I'd bet a few others) have seen a lot worse from the Police at football matches etc.. and nowt's been said or done...but just goes to show some police treat anyone as the enemy at these events.

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having suffered worse meself late 60s when wobbling quietly up peel street on me way home around 1-30, this is nowt new, looking here 40 yrs on n nowts changed, some still behave badly, some still are clueless about what happens in real life,that or they choose to ignore it.:rolleyes:

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He was assaulted twice, once with the police baton at the back of his legs and then the police officer lunged at him and pushed him.
If somebody did that to me reguardless of who they are they would get a mouthfull off me too.

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It seems pretty tame to me ... not too long ago 4 heavilly armed mounties tasered a guy to death at Vancouver Airport because he threatened them with a stapler!!! In a situation like this, with a mass demonstration and a lot of stressed out coppers, some faeces is bound to hit the swiftly roatating object.

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My worry is that this will be swept under the carpet quietly and will happen again in the future. If it does get swept under then that is like giving the police in the future at such events cart blanche to do as they please and get away with it. I an no fan of the police and think that they regard themselves at times above the law and close ranks fast when one of their collegues is in the warm wet sticky stuff. Yes the G20 protests turned in some cases into an anarchic riot but that does not justify clobbering innocents (as it stands at the moment) just because they are stressed and pumped up on adrenalin. The sooner we find out what happened for sure and what the second post mortem shows the better!!!

What would have happened if all the officers on duty that day had fire arms and tasers and one went off on one with all the agro? Yes Joe P would have been in the pokey if it was the otherway round and an officer was walloped one. We dont know all the facts yet but with all the edited bits around, media speculation and other distortions we might never know as of the only ones that know one is dead and the other wont be allowed to talk apart from to follow the "party line" so to speak.

As for doing the judge, jury and executioner that is normal when we see what happened and is human nature.

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Try to convince the family of this mature man who was on his way home from work, walking away from a situation with his hands in his pockets that this is tame.
He may have aggravated the police before the event but there was sufficient police presence to arrest him without clobbering him from behind.
There has been been a suggestion that the video evidence is fabricated, I dont think anyone of right mind would attempt that....even the press on such a highly charged subject.