Re: swine fever.
 

This experiment in the provocation of mass hysteria has backfired and left egg on the face of the World Health Organisation.:D

Next time they will have learned by their mistakes :eek:, but we too have learned-
....don't automatically believe that you are being provided with the truth......

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Have the alternative medicine Wallahs come up with a cure for Swine Flu yet? :eek:

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All big businesses have contingency plans ready in case the worst does happen, and believe me, it ain't pretty!:eek:

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I think cure always been at hand !! still think man made to divert attention from real issue's

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What are the plans in case the worst happens.

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My plan is to either eat ham that is cured or at the very least reformed.:hehetable


Start the car.:D

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Can't give top line on it but you would be looking at closed shops and empty high streets, places like Arndale centres first.:eek:

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I think you genuinely have lost the plot and need to see your GP! :rolleyes:

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The 'alternative medicine way' to defeat disease is to have a body in which all body systems are functioning as they should.
That is achievable by avoiding toxic input and eating nutritionally.
When disease has struck it means that there is inbalance in the system - which can be helped by correcting nutrition and reducing toxicity.

A healthy body is more able to resist attack

Pharmacutecals are toxins designed to mask unpleasant symptoms, but they do not cure the problem. Where pain and inflammation are the symptoms they can slow down the body's own healing capacity and make 'getting better' more endurable mentally and so can be said to be assisting healing, but the aim should always be to restore a body to proper function.

PS sad to say, but some have got past the point of recovery

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That is the biggest load of Gollocks I have ever read.
When I got Asian Flu I was eighteen and as fit as a butchers dog.
I am now nearing seventy and like a good boy I am allowed a free flu jab.
I sincerely hope, at your age you have taken advantage of the same precaution.

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So your body was fit enough then to repair itself =good.

One of the lovely side effects of the nutritional healing I am doing on myself,
is heightened awareness of my 5 senses (discarded hearing aid)
and my incapacity to get angry :)

I have no intention of ever having a vaccine again, for reasons which I think you would not understand.

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Good luck. :)

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Each to their own, Margaret - I go for my flu jab every year, and I'm grateful that I was immunised against smallpox, diphtheria, polio, whooping cough, etc. etc.

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apart from iceland been closed how would we be able to tell lol :D

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Wasn't specifically talking about Acc but good point!:rolleyes:

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My daughter has just had the last of her course of 3 vaccinations against HPV which can cause cervical cancer. I put her thru that because I think in the long term it's worth it, I am glad I had my vaccines when younger and am glad that I got my daughter vaccinated with the MMR jab, neither of us have been ill, neither of us have had any real health problems. These vaccines are rigorously tested, but each to their own, just wondering though Margaret, what's your stance on the contraceptive pill and the depo jab? Should we be avoiding them and use more traditional methods?
Do you think they do more harm than good?

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I am not at all convinced that this strain of flu is any worse than any we've seen in the past. Royboy and I both got the Asian flu in 1957 - it was a killer - any flu is a killer. It's the fact that so many people think a heavy cold is flu that means, when a strain of real flu comes along, it takes them unawares and scares them half to death.

Those of us who have lung problems have an annual vaccination. We have it because flu can kill. People should stop panicking and take normal, sensible precautions because the virus will only spread through carelessness.

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Hidden agenda?

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never had one and never will no matter how many letters my doctor sends asking me to have it because .

A: everyone i know thats had the jab feels like crap for weeks afterwards

B: even if it works your only protected from the actuall flu virus its made to protect you from your still vulnerable to the other types/strains of flu

C: the ones given out in october/november wont protect you from swine flu which takes me back to point B

the way i see it is that if your gonna get flu your gonna get it and apart from living in isolation theres not much you can do to avoid it

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I have had cervical cancer - caught early - cured by surgery (at age 32)
I also took the contraceptive pill for seven years prior to that.
I do not know whether or not those facts are related.

The concept of a vaccine to prevent any illness is a good one BUT unfortunately vaccines have traces of mercury which is toxic and when toxicity reaches a level where it interrupts proper functioning of body processes other illness manifests itself.

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Your point A: I and many of my friends have had it yearly and had no discomfort whatsoever.
Your point B: You and everyone else needs protection from past flu strains as they might recur.
If you get Flu.........You will feel crap, as you call it for months afterwards....Trust Me.....and may not survive.

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Well, I agree in principle with points A to C but when you have a potentially lethal condition you do try to get as much protection as possible. I can only reiterate, hygiene is the answer to the spread of most infections.

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Margaret's body is a temple.

A temple with a chimney on top...to let out the tobacco smoke.:D

Not having a go, because I agree with you on some things, but it does make me laugh, when you say what chemicals do to our bodies, and yet you like a smoke, which has countless harmful chemicals in each drag.:D

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I did not post this with my last post because I needed to search for the link
How Vaccinations Work - Th1/Th2 Immune Response
Research into Gulf War syndrome has revealed that people have different types of immune systems.
Some people react badly to vaccines, others don't. The link explains this anomaly.
But I still say that the delayed effect of vaccines is ill health from mercury toxicity

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I have read this after my last post and agree with you :)
I am an addict, but I have reduced the toxic intake of smoking by-
using pure leaf tobacco which has not got the chemical additives which manufactured ciggies have
and my consumption is now down to 15 a day (from 30) and hoping for an addiction cure eventually :D

Body purification takes time

Re: swine fever.
 

I do have the yearly flu jab, and have never felt unwell afterwards, or had the flu.

Though I think not having the flu is down to being a smoker myself, which kills 99% of all known germs.

I think the awaited leaflet that's about to drop on every mat in the country, is a complete waste of money, and a complete overreaction from the government, which mirrors the media's hyperventling glee at the story.

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aint over reaction to them mate, its called "Shifting The Spotlight";)

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...but it hasn't worked.

Most people are still more worried about the safety of their jobs, or just how sleazy politicans can get, than catching the latest flu.

:D

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Now you have got me interested......From what. Ghurkas, Global Warming, Expenses, Failures, Spin?
By the way Swine Fever is a totaly different subject to what we are discussing.

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i agree,not too sure about most though, theres enough muppets think corrie n east enders are true.:D

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Now that could be a good thread wander into 'mind conditioning by the media'

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We'll just have to wait and see what the latest information is, from the new Minster of Health.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IzMD7yJo9h...ckson_mask.jpg

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Aren't conspiracy theories spread by the media?

:rolleyes::D

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The media that reports conspiracy theories is 'beyond government control'
That is why they get angry about the internet - they can't shut it down, but the Chinese are trying to.

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Unless of course that's exactly what they want you to think.;)

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that mask isnt to potect from flu its to stop his nose falling into his mouth :D

now all he needs is somthing to stop his willy falling into kids

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Come on , I live in the Bay Area and the local media (as usual) is going into hyper drive hysterics , a few kids with snotty noses and schools are being closed, TV pictures of schools being dis-infected by cleaning crews wearing face masks and 'space suits' .......remember this weekend is Cinco de Mayo , so every latino/hispanic will be out having a party ....methinks you have more chance getting hit with a stray than getting the (mexican) flu

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I used to have the flu jab every year, regular as clockwork and 2 or 3 days later I was away with the mixer with blue flashing lights. The last time I had the flu jab was the 13th October 1994 a Thursday I was in E3 at Queens Park on the 15th and as usual in and out all winter. I decided that I would not have it the ext year,much to th consternation of my Consultant and GP, but the bottom line is that since then I've only been admitted on three occasions, could just be a coincidence, but I don't believe in them where my health is concerned;)

Re: swine fever.
 

Sit quietly ... breathe deeply ... meditate on some peaceful memory from the past ... gently lean forward ... put your head between your knees ... kiss your ass goodbye;)

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seems Mexico has lowered the death toll to 101,

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They are now saying that maybe, just maybe, well, perhaps it isn't quite as dreadfully, awfully bad as they first thought. :rolleyes:

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It was only a rehearsal anyway:rolleyes:

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Does anyone else get the impression that Margaret is disappointed that this virus may not kill off half of the population of our planet ? ... :D:p

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between deadly viruses, terrorist threats and alien invasion im surprised there is anyone left to kill :D

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Now that wasn't nice ..... I just don't think we have seen the end of it.....I don't fancy dying anymore than you do.

Next time they try something like this fewer people will be duped into getting vaccinated :D

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Did you have your children vaccinated, Margaret? - or was it only later that you realized that the vaccine was worse than the disease?:rolleyes:

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I only learnt about nutrition and body cellular function when I began searching for my cure last August.
I am not saying that vaccines are worse than the disease, I am saying that vaccines have potential to create other disease.
I cannot recall what my son was vaccinated against - I do have a vague memory of him having some in his 1st year - it was 43 years ago!
I don't think that he has had any in adulthood, so his level of mercury will probably be OK.

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If you want to learn more about mercury read this-
Mercury Poisoning Causes, Symptoms, and Prevention on MedicineNet.com
exract-
Health effects of mercury. Mercury exposure at high levels can harm the brain, heart, kidneys, lungs, and immune system of people of all ages. Research shows that most people's fish consumption does not cause a health concern. However, it has been demonstrated that high levels of methylmercury in the bloodstream of unborn babies and young children may harm the developing nervous system, making the child less able to think and learn.
PS if you read to the end you will see this
Some consumers are concerned about the use of thimerosal, a mercury-containing preservative, in vaccines. Since 2001, with the exception of some influenza vaccines (flu), thimerosal is not used as a preservative in routinely recommended childhood vaccines.

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Just got back from Asda and noticed they are now selling a new version of Lemsip;

http://i39.tinypic.com/2626r1e.jpg

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Stop it you naughty boy or you'll have all those people frightened of dying grasping at every last straw and really believing in conspiracies. (Not Margaret we know she will only use Mercury for the good of others rather than just to poison the unwitting).

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If anyone here is worrying about their mercury level, I recommend using
Humet R.
Humet - Products - For scientists & experts

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And I recommend anyone that has a sexually transmitted disease to expose themselves to Malaria, the rise in temperature produced kills it off far better than mercury, but then, time has moved on both of these cures have been replaced by antibiotics and Doctors/Scientists have learnt quite a lot about what doses of all sorts of things can do good or harm, have all those Bassett Hounds died for nothing? Or shall we use the research? Long live medical research in every form rather than iffy 'Ooooh you don't want to do that!'

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Had a painful day so short on patience.
I think you are trying to indroduce humour
If I am wrong - just continue to have faith in your doctor and die sooner but happy

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If you are contemplating sex, dont use a Hurnet. :eek:

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On a lighter note -:D
Bloopers - Funny Medical Mistakes! - The Doctors Lounge(TM)

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If you mean me, not had a bad day, had a cheery message that my latest Granddaughter (less than two weeks), may be able to come home after all those nasty doctors pumped her full of nasty chemicals to keep her alive because she was born with Chicken Pox, thank you to the Doctors and Nurses that were there for her.

I may now get a chance to see what she will be like, just because most of us believe the medical staff try to do good, not just making money as your description of their Medicines seems to imply!
http://planetsmilies.net/ill-violate...miley-9437.gif Ooh please excuse me I just sneezed is this the end of the world as I know it?

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I can only agree with you Less, but for doctors and nurses pumping me full of those nasty life threatening medications I would have departed this earth long ago :rolleyes:

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You know... I really do like the Internet for many many reasons.... but because of people like Margaret... ( research overdrive ) I hate it..... seriously Margaret, doctors went to university for a lot of years for a reason... and you didn't... so let them do their job love. :rolleyes:

Ok so you might not like prescription drugs.... I doubt your kind of drugs are gonna keep babies with measles, mumps and rubella alive!! Live and let live... and stop stuffing your info down everyone elses throat!!

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totally agree with you on this one Slinks, there is a time and a place for herbal stuff and with kids you cant afford to risk trying it

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For the attention of Slinky-
post #12 by you in thread
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...jab-25740.html
Quote-
"I work In a Nursing home so am around loads of people that have it done.
The amount of people I see that get very poorly after this jab is un -believable. I personal think it is a government scam to bump off the elderly because we are living longer.
IMHO I would never have one done.":rolleyes:

I will now retire gracefully to another forum where I am still welcome - bye:)

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Oh give up!! you know you won't.

As it happens..I don't agree with the Flu jab for a number of reasons... but do you see me on here EVERY SINGLE DAY spouting that you shouldn't take this ?? NO!!!! because each to their own. But you really do attack people Margaret, and to be quite honest, you have been doing it for a very long time ( look back over your own posts if you don't believe me... ) I have a life... I can't be arsed. Actually surprised it has taken people so long to get annoyed with you. :rolleyes:
You really do just get a bit boring!!

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I'm on medication to keep me alive and I'm only 45. I've been taking it for 4 years now. I will continue to take it because I don't want to pop my clogs yet. Thank gawd someone invented the pills I take. 100 years ago I would have been a gonner at the grand old age of 41

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I too must thank the medical profession for still being here. I nearly died from pneumonia 16 months ago. That on top of COPD, a heart problem, thyroid problem, high blood pressure and a suspected progression towards diabetes means that, if I'd lived in an earlier age, I wouldn't be - living, that is.

I'm grateful to medical science for keeping me alive and for letting me have my mum, who lived to age 91 with all of the above and more, for so long. I'm grateful for the discovery of penicillin, the new drug, as it was then, that saved my brother's life in 1944. I wish there had been a drug to cure my husband of Meningococcal Septicaemia but there wasn't. I am fully behind all the research to find a drug that will cure it.

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I hope you don't, I need you, I want you, I require you, well actually the thing is...
Most of what you post makes some form of sense, we only disagree on the medical thing, the first rumour about Doctor nasty and you bring out your Dock Leaf, but hang on, how many other things are there that most of us agree with you?

Without you being contrary what will we do?

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There is room for conventional medicine and alternative medicine to run side by side.......and everyone is entitled to an opinion, we should respect that.
Despite having worked as a nurse for thirty years, there are some treatments that I would not have(unless I was unconscious and unable to speak for myself).
We all have the right of choice...something that is only possible because of medical advances.
If medication is necessary to prolong life than you have to weigh up whether the quality of that life is better than the alternative.
Lots of medications do have nasty side effects which need some other medication to control it....and before you know it you rattle when you walk.
Medicine is wonderful when used wisely.

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Leave Maggie alone, you bullies. She may set her gang on you.

The Eccentric Club (UK)

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Let me try...................Get back on here you silly old sod.
You have had a go at me many times and I have responded.
I have had a go at you many times and you have responded.
This is a forum of many differing ideas and I hope it is used to bounce ideas off each other.
Politics rases it's ugly head now and again but there are people on both sides of the watering hole and the debate is levelled.
There are people you can trust not to let you down and there are people who would shout you down, I have had experience of both.
I dont like being called 'Victor Meldrew' and I don't suppose Garinda likes being called 'The Prince of Clowns.'
I call you a silly old sod with the greatest of respect, I am old and perhaps not as silly as some claim me to be and the same applies to you.
Stick to your guns if you have to....I remember as a kid using Senna Pods as an alternative medicine instead of chocolate laxative, and I vote for Senna Pods every time. :D

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Are You Sure:theband:

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Ye I think so.....Less takes umbridge if I have poke at him....have a go at labour and Cashy is on your case...have a go at PB and Garinda appears with guns blazing...these things all brighten our day. If you mention a moose Eric springs up in defence of his pets.......all makes for happy bullsh1t. :p;)

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Try having a go at Stanley and see what happens.

Go on, make my day....;) :D

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Not that bloody daft. :);)

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Totally agree Margaret, for my pains I take 11 different medications every day and two is just to counteract other drugs, plus of course oxygen. I don't have a problem with people using alternative medication, but for me it would be futile.

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Wynonie Eastwood:D Well go on Punk make my day:D

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I've no problem with MargaretR's posts.

They're her views, and she's entitled to them, just as we all are. I've never found them preachy or nasty.

Half the time they make me laugh.

Her becoming dizzy from the fumes of the Yankee Candle's synthetic perfume in the Bubble Factory, and then having to recover outside with a roll up fag...a healthy one of course.:D

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To be honest I've never actually thought of you as being the shiniest button in the box, but can you actually read?

One thread, thanking Cllr. Britcliffe for his professional help, does not, I think, make me his champion.

Personally I think some of the countless threads I've started, highly critical of some of his policy decisions, may have inspired the remark in the local press that this forum was filled with 'vile and vicious attacks' against him.

I do think I deserve at least a little credit.;)

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I can live with that - but have no intention of entering into argument with the local dipstick. :)

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Anyone who could possibly give myself as an example of someone who rushes to the defence of Peter Britcliffe on this forum, when I've probably been his fiercest critic on here, has probably more pressing need to worry about dementia, rather than the latest strain of flu.;)

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There, I said it was you:D:D:D:D

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There I was this morning, sat at the back of the door, eagerly waiting for the Postie bringing my leaflet on how to handle the Swine Flu, and guess what, it didn't arrive, now what am I going to do:help::s_sick::drink::D

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There's a bit of a delay the printers have read the first proofs and are all suffering Hypochondria, they are off work after throwing in sick notes left, right and centre!

Re: swine fever.
 

Ahhhhhhhhhh that explains it:D

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Interesting item on the news yesterday .... a young girl in Alberta is in intensive care, suffering from a severe case of swine flu .... strange thing is, she hasn't been to Mexico, or come into contact with anyone who has .... but this is the provice where the flu passed from an infected human to a herd of hogs ....

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She has probably been told, "Ignore everything else, we'll sue the pant's off the Mexicans!".

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Can't sue Mexicans ... they're broke;)

However the poor pigs are being slaughtered .... I think Swine Flu is the second biggest threat to pigs ... the first is the "full English breakfast.":eek::D

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Another appreciated Accy web user driven away by the mob , guess thats allways been a problem with Accrington/Hyndburn , you kick one you kick twenty , some posts/replies on Accy web suggest deeper inbreeding and hereditry mental deficencies than were ever shown in the movie Deliverence :( :(

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Another?..come on steeljack I'm not having it.. anyone who gets the "hump" on here and gets fed up with posting complete bollocks is missing out!

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anyways I reckon it's all down to these two Mexican slags that blagged their way in on false passports and a bit of talcum powder


http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...ky_468x308.jpg

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They said "pigs will fly" before there will be a black man in the White House...

well...Swine flu!

Re: swine fever.
 

That's not PC, he's a American of African Origin:D

Swine flu- are you worried?
 

Hi all,

Just being curious. Are you worried about swine flu?
I am a little as my partner is in the forces and gets to find out news and decisions that the government has made and its worrying. Im more concered for my 9 months old son than myself. I have also heard that a pupil at a school in blackburn has got the virus but hasent been in contact with anyone at school.

Let me know your thoughts

Stacey

Re: Swine flu- are you worried?
 

Think you find there's another thread already on this topic Stacey

Re: Swine flu- are you worried?
 

Yes there is, but it's such an important topic, I would like to say if I die from it I promise I won't ever mention it again.

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Just think.... ya'll never mention anything ever again

Quick... get it all off ya chest Less ;) :D

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Oh dear I feel a belt around the ear coming on, "easy for you to say!"

Re: Swine flu- are you worried?
 

Seems there is a trend for 'Swine Flu Parties' to be held. The idea is for guests to infect themselves with this virus in the hope they catch a mild form of the flu, so that if it comes back in a stronger form they will have immunity, how many other people will they infect who are more vulnerable .... idiots .... :rolleyes: Would you do this ?
Their theory is based on the Spanish Flu outbreak ... people who caught the first dose appeared not to catch the return a few months later. This, of course, is a different strain, and no evidence as yet.

Re: Swine flu- are you worried?
 

I'll keep you to that Less:D

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Tomorra...... :D

Re: Swine flu- are you worried?
 

Does having Man Flu count?

Re: Swine flu- are you worried?
 

For getting a clout round the ear?? Sure ;) :D

Re: Swine flu- are you worried?
 

I'm surprised no one's already said it, so here goes. I'm pig sick with worrying about this Swine-Flu.:)