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how long till we have one side complaining about the other about under-hand tactics and dirty politics?
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very disapointed that there were only a choice of labour and tory for oswaldtwistle
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*LOL* i've already seen at least 3 blatant law breaking events - heard of a few more - committed by both sides
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what i want to know is that the conservatives say they're gonna be green
yet all day long they've had these cars go around shouting out vote conservative what a frikkin joke |
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conservitaves are green , they keep all the money and the poor get jack
ok money isnt green anymore i know |
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hope everyone went and voted .... even if you ruined your vote ... ive always said if you dont vote then you aint got the right to complain ... and as its county .. its another 4 years before you can vote em out again ...
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Mani, report them. :eek: I have just spent the last hour in the pub after the quiz with Councillor Jones, I really hope he gets the votes he needs, he took time out to meet a few people and seemed fairly relaxed about it all but was obviously worn out. He was the only candidtae to knock at my door although the rest were bountiful enough with their junk mail. Everything crossed for you Graham, let's hope common sense prevails!:mosher: |
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are the results online anywhere?
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theres a link on there
BBC NEWS | Politics | Tories and Lib Dems in poll wins tells you when each council has been declared ... |
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And this is another interesting story BBC NEWS | Politics | UKIP 'outrage' on folded ballots
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My internet has been down all day, it's been so frustrating not being able to find out what was going on. Fortunately, I had friends who were able to feed me the info when it was coming in.
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seems like the Tories have got the county elections sewn up..blue all over the country ...no doubt in my mind they will win the next General Election so if you are a pensioner or your income is less than 40k you best start stocking up with baked beans and the like, get used to laying on trollies in hospital corridors etc...the less well off will be blamed and made to pay for this reccession, not the rich Tories!
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the tory way of treating ilneses like heart problems and cancers is to make the patient wait as long as possible in the hope they will die before any money has to be spent on treating them :rolleyes: RIP N.H.S it was nice while it lasted roll on the new era of screw you jack im ok |
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maybe for the first time Jaysay I can say you are either lying or the old blue tinted specs have come out... the NHS was brought to it's knees with massive underfunding by the Tories....tax cuts for the weathly will be the first priority of a Tory government....that is what your masters demand.. and you know it.
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Everyone is asked to clean their hands as they walk in or out, except the staff. They blame the patients and visitors for making the place dirty then allow Doctors and Nurses to walk out of Hospital wearing the clothes they have been getting covered in who knows how many germs/viruses all day and take them home with them. They also allow them to wear there uniforms to work bringing bugs from outside the Hospital with them. The wards are dirty because people don't do their jobs properly which in turn is because the over the top management don't manage the staff. You have spent time in hospital so you must know what I am saying is true. A lot of the staff are incompetent, also the management are incompetent because they don't sort out the staff below them. What do you Government do? They just throw more money at it and come up with useless schemes to spend it on. Now stop making me rant on about the NHS you tart. |
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all i know is that if i had gotten my ilnness before labour got into power and provided more funding for the NHS and started cutting down waiting times i would probably have died waiting for a hospital bed
iv said this before on here , my friend rasied money to buy what was then queens park hospital a baby incubator as a thankyou for saving his premateur sons life , the tory woman whos name i cant remember who was in charge of some part of teh NHS demanded that a baby incubator be removed from queens park hospital which was allready short of them and had it sent down to her local hospital when my friend visited the ward all that was left was the plaque saying who donated it to the hospital and a few screws save money buying machines for souther hospitals just steal one from the north and screw us |
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at least the NHS have got staff!...I was talking to a nurse who had worked in the same hospital for 15yrs and she was saying that under the Tories she was expected to oversee 8 patients...now it's down to 3.
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teh stupid thing is although labour did increase funding to teh NHS and made more treatment avaiable it got wasted on treating other coutries sick people
if the tories cut funding to the NHS they shoudl also cut how many imigrants get treated under the NHS if you dont contribute you dont get treatment |
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what i should have said is if you are an imigrant and dont contribute you dont get treatment
the N in N.H.S is for national not worldwide |
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The NHS has improved over the last 10 yrs...wether it has been value for the vast amount of money poured into it is up for debate...but we will get the same old tory doctrine that you can make massive cuts and still keep a decent service... it's an illusion and a lie!
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oh deary me Jaysay..already blaming this Government for the misery of a Tory future..you serve your masters well..tea boy!
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Well 'the Winter of Discontent' must have been Maggies fault then??? the dead unburied, The NHS all but closed down, and 'Crisis? What Chris?'
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and speaking of the NHS....what about the £20 to £30 Billion currently being spent on a IT system???? It should have cost £2.3 Billion. Insanity
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like I say the amount of money put into the NHS may not be good value..but the Tory doctrine is to cut funds..is that a good idea?
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I posted on here before about how they wrote on my wifes notes that she had been given pain relief medication when she had not. They put the wrong baby monitor trace in her notes as well. I watched a nurse putting cups and saucers into a dirty bed linen trolley after she had just stripped a bed because she could not be bothered to come back with the tea trolley. That was the bed that she remade without wiping down the mattress. I am not saying that all the staff are the same because they are not. Its just that a lot of the staff are too lazy to do their job properly. While on holiday my brother in law was unwell and was seen by a Doctor. He told him to have a prostate exam when he returned home. When back home he asked and was told he was far too young to have prostate problems. It took over a year for them to diagnose that he did have prostate cancer and by that time it was too late - I think he was just over 40 then. |
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The NHS is useless, and the only reason we use it is because we pay so much for everything else that we can't afford to choose anything better. Forced monopoly on the working class if you ask me... |
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...and if you were in America getting a smear test would cost you between $25 to £40 dollars. Would you have even considered asking for one?
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Well you tell me, is the risk of the possibility of cancer worth $40? I actually would, but then i've been in quite a worrying situation so I would think my health is well worth that small amount of money. |
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I'm actually against the NHS and thought I'd make that quite clear, so it was a bit of a silly question to ask in my opinion.
I don't agree on the capitalising on health care in the first place anyway. The health and pharmaceuticals professions churn in and out too much money in the first place. |
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so you would go back to a time before the nhs ... when you paid for everything ... no matter what ...
how much would it cost if you got knocked down and broke your leg and arm .. maybe needed an operation on your leg ... could you afford that .... |
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I don't have the exact numbers but the Conservatives have come in front in Hyndburn by about 1000 votes.
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Figures for Hyndburn (for the Euro elections) as per LET are - Hyndburn result: Conservatives 6037 Labour 5020 UKIP 3906 BNP 2731 Lib 1285.
Link to website (shows most other areas of North West) -http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/news/lancashiretelegraph/4424651.Election_blog__European_election_results Just hope that there are not enough votes for the BNP in the rest of the North West, but it is very frightening that 2731 people in Hyndburn voted for the BNP |
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2731 is the population of the Woodnook area of town.
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if they are indeed protest votes perhaps than manky mouthed idiot that looks to be on teh verge of a stroke will getthe hint and do teh decent thing and step down bnp do have a use its another box to tick to show the govenment your not happy but i doubtthey will do as well in a general election |
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wether or not your with bupa if you have an accident its gonna be a NHS ambulance that carts you off to hospital and NHS nurses and doctors that stop your internal bleeding etc or you could get a taxi to your nearest private hospital between the hours of 9am and 5pm and pray it isnt a golf day for the doctor :D |
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BBC NEWS | UK | England | Tees | Man died after ambulance detour :D :D |
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I don't think the BNP have done as well as they expected in these elections. |
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The Green Party have an immigration policy which echoes similar sentiments to some people on here, or at least it used to. Not quite for the same reasons, they're more concerned about air miles more than anything.
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I also once was offered a job on the basis of being the only white british applicant, so anyone who thinks jobs are only offered to immigrants is deluded.
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HAHA that made me laugh |
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BNP polled lower % than the Swedish Pirate Party.
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there's no mistaking that the bnp should've stolen the show but didnt
they polled less than they did back in 2004 but i think less people either bothered or voted other than mainstream parties. they got in but people will see just how useless a party they are - just like they councillors who got voted in and then out this will show people that though they can talk a talk when it comes to racist messages but cant walk it politiically |
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Just read an article in the local rag to the effect that in the EU elections there seems to have been as shift to the right!!!!! Don't people on that side of the pond realize that it is right-wing, laissez faire style economics which got us into this mess in the first place? While sensible voters over here, both in Canada and the US, are moving to the centre-left to solve the crisis, Europeans seem to be heading in the other, and I think wrong, direction ... some would argue that govt. intervention in private companies is wrong .... but I feel comfortable with the fact that the govts. of the US, Canada, and Ontario are pumping in billions of bucks to stabilize, and, I hope save the automotive sector which, as any economist will tell you, is about much more than just making cars.
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More Romanians!
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Had to laugh today when an asian lad said he voted for the BNP to get rid of all the european scum then his brothers could get jobs, says a lot that. |
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its already divided thatcher made sure of that....
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Everybody knows that immigration control must improve in order to keep British people in work in the extremely tough economic times, and of course to prevent wrongful claiming of British public money for citizens of foreign countries.
People need to know that BNP are not the answer to any problems anywhere. I don't think that the majority of voters for the racist party are racist at all. They want a change in rules and practice for all the right reasons. It's up to the other parties to make more public the utter atrocities that the Nazi Party believe in and support. The other parties also need to make clear their policies and stick to them. I'm considering joining some sort of political organisation where I can making my feelings known and make action with them. I've never been politically inclined before, and I still do not support any particular party, but (as cmonstanley pointed out in another thread) when the country is in such a sorry state it's time to use any motivation that's left rattling around for positive change. |
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I think a lot of non-racist persons voted for the BNP because Labour have failed them so badly. A lot of the BNP's left wing policies appeal to those disillusioned by the Labour party when combined with the BNP's new media approach in which they attempt not to come across with racism as their foremost policy. For example they have sidelined the repatriation of non-English in favour of a 'we're full; those that are here legally can stay, we just don't want any more'. Dropping the overt racism appears to have been doing them some good electorally compared with the past.
The only way to defeat the BNP is to point out the flaws in their policies and defeat them in debate. Simply calling them racists or denying them oxygen only plays into their hands. |
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Out of interest, how many people on here follow European politics anyway?
As for the policies of the EU, which I've studied for two years now, the more people I ask about them, the less people seem to actually know about the EU at all. |
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Maybe it won't be so bad... it isn't anything we have experienced fully yet and we just ASSUME it will be like the holocaust or whatever, but I think the likelihood is that we are probably taking it to the extremes because of media hype and stuff.
We'll just have to wait and see and vote against them in future. I'd be interested to know how many people on accyweb actually voted BNP. |
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Would it prove anything? |
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BBC NEWS | Politics | BNP leader pelted in egg protest
well they've no need to buy any eggs today .....:D:D:D |
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