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Wynonie Harris 07-07-2009 10:15

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 727072)
I think that it's better to invest more money into the NHS and let it work reasonably well ...rather that cut funds and let it fall to ruin as it did in the 80's.

Investing money into the NHS is only a good thing if it's spent wisely - ie, as much of it on front line services as possible. The government is squandering a large part of the money that goes into the NHS at the moment on unnecessary layers of management and unworkable IT systems. Still, your blinkers will never let you see that, will they?

jaysay 07-07-2009 10:53

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 727074)
Investing money into the NHS is only a good thing if it's spent wisely - ie, as much of it on front line services as possible. The government is squandering a large part of the money that goes into the NHS at the moment on unnecessary layers of management and unworkable IT systems. Still, your blinkers will never let you see that, will they?

I gave up with Mancie a long time ago, I just nod and say whatever now Wynonie:rolleyes:

entwisi 07-07-2009 11:52

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 727071)
and you did all that in the last ten years under a Labour Government entwisi?...think about it.

I'd say in spite of them as they have done nothing to assist me in that time. its is I who have actively sought out the right skills and opportunities to get where I am. Its me that has put the effort into making the most of these opportunities.

I run environmentally friendly cars as my job is > 50 miles from home, do I get the tax break they give new ones... nope

I am constantly retraining myself on latest skills, any tax breaks? nope

I look after my Mum who needs care, she is on the list for sheltered accomodation, current waiting list unending, due to lack of goverment support to provide the right amount of social housing. its over 20 years ago that it was noted we were becoming an 'older' population but nothing done to provide for this.

accyman 07-07-2009 12:02

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 727094)
I'd say in spite of them as they have done nothing to assist me in that time. its is I who have actively sought out the right skills and opportunities to get where I am. Its me that has put the effort into making the most of these opportunities.

I run environmentally friendly cars as my job is > 50 miles from home, do I get the tax break they give new ones... nope

I am constantly retraining myself on latest skills, any tax breaks? nope

I look after my Mum who needs care, she is on the list for sheltered accomodation, current waiting list unending, due to lack of goverment support to provide the right amount of social housing. its over 20 years ago that it was noted we were becoming an 'older' population but nothing done to provide for this.

just in case you dont already have one here you go

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/classic/bl...s/340/bp01.jpg

sorry but couldnt afford a trumpet for you to blow:D

entwisi 07-07-2009 12:08

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I did all my trumpet blowing in the BB brass band thanks mate.....

I was never into BP either so you can keep your badge in exchange for my name back on FB

andrewb 07-07-2009 14:39

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National Statistics Online

Scary.

cashman 07-07-2009 14:59

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 727112)

well get rid of yer mirrors.:D

accyman 07-07-2009 18:13

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 727097)
I did all my trumpet blowing in the BB brass band thanks mate.....

I was never into BP either so you can keep your badge in exchange for my name back on FB

add me to msn and we can talk about it

[email protected]

Eric 08-07-2009 07:08

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 727115)
well get rid of yer mirrors.:D


One of our Prime Ministers, John Diefenbaker, once said that politicians use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post ... more for support than illumination.;)

Tealeaf 08-07-2009 08:30

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 727219)
One of our Prime Ministers, John Diefenbaker, once said that politicians use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post ... more for support than illumination.;)

Not in the UK....people like Gordon Brown use statistics like a dog uses a lamp post.

Mancie 09-07-2009 00:54

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 727074)
Investing money into the NHS is only a good thing if it's spent wisely - ie, as much of it on front line services as possible. The government is squandering a large part of the money that goes into the NHS at the moment on unnecessary layers of management and unworkable IT systems. Still, your blinkers will never let you see that, will they?

I'm not stupid enough to think that eveything in the NHS is lovely and rosey...but I do not agree with any cuts to funding...when the Tories do start making the cuts it won't be in mamagement and I.T. systems ..it will start with cleaning staff etc and eventually in nurses...we've seen it all before, they will set up private monitoring "consultants" which cost millions...and you call me blinkered.. get yer head out the sand, these consultant agencies with be laughing all the way to the bank.

Mancie 09-07-2009 00:57

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 727079)
I gave up with Mancie a long time ago, I just nod and say whatever now Wynonie:rolleyes:

you've got some cheek...you are a life long Tory activist whose posts are 99% pro Tory..behave yerself Jaysay...you aint fooling anyone

Mancie 09-07-2009 01:01

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 727226)
Not in the UK....people like Gordon Brown use statistics like a dog uses a lamp post.

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:.Tealeaf is the bloke that posted this earlier in this thread

Cuts? Lets start with the obvious shall we:
  • Get out the EU - Saving £30bn annually
  • Shut down the Dept. of Overseas Development - Savings £10bn
  • Let the Scots have independence - Saving £18bn
  • Give the Scots responsibility for their banks that got us into this mess - saving £200bn
  • Shut down the Quangos - saving £60bn
  • Sack half of all bureaucrats - whatever dept - saving £30bn
  • Sling out so called asylum seekers - saving £4bn
  • Sling out Brown, Darling and the other crooks - saving, priceless.
so you don't use statistics Tealeaf? :rolleyes:

Mancie 09-07-2009 04:00

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 727079)
I gave up with Mancie a long time ago, I just nod and say whatever now Wynonie:rolleyes:

punish him for me Eroll..he's been a naughty boy!

Tealeaf 09-07-2009 07:14

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 727420)
:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:.Tealeaf is the bloke that posted this earlier in this thread

Cuts? Lets start with the obvious shall we:
  • Get out the EU - Saving £30bn annually
  • Sling out Brown, Darling and the other crooks - saving, priceless........
so you don't use statistics Tealeaf? :rolleyes:

Statistics is the interpretation and presentation of data. The above are simple numbers. Although I am often tempted to use statistics on here to elaborate a case, I am also aware that would invariably marginalise those of limited intelligence such as Mancie.


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