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cashman 07-08-2009 00:59

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the money was going to the bank of england to be destroyed. thats also fact.

garinda 07-08-2009 01:09

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 734036)
the money was going to the bank of england to be destroyed. thats also fact.

It still had a monetary value, to us as well as them.

You can't print, or destroy money, willy-nilly, otherwise there'd be no poor countries in the world.;)

garinda 07-08-2009 01:20

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Old school crim.

Bit of a rogue.

Jack the lad.

The people's hero.

No he wasn't.

For God's sake he wasn't some sort of Robin Hood, robbing the rich to feed the poor. It was hard working tax payer's money on that train, and the only poor to benefit were the third world, poverty trapped, prostitues he bought as company in his fun filled exile.

I hope he finds peace now he's been released, and in the time he has left.

I'd also hope he'd eventually show some remorse for his part in the crime. If only for the victim's family, Jack Mills, the 58 year old, hard working train driver, who was coshed on the head with an iron bar, and who was never able to work again, and who suffered pain from his injuries until his death.

Perhaps some people wouldn't feel so misty eyed about Biggs if it'd been thier old dad who'd been attacked, whilst going about his business.

accyman 07-08-2009 02:01

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lol one min people are shouting to be tougher on crime and as soon as they see a picture of an old lag looking weak and feeble its awww let him go.

if he hadnt ran and served his time he wouldnt be in the mess he is now and if he hadnt blown all his money and not been taken ill im pretty sure he wouldnt have been handing himself back anytime soon either

shoudla left him to rot and die abroad, not waste my tax money paying for his keep in prison ,medical bills, legal aid etc

personaly i woulda handed him a rope and told him to go do what his pal buster did and put himself out of his misery

Mancie 07-08-2009 04:36

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the man has not done his time in a British prison.. and that is what most people who think he should still be there get the hump on..but it don't add up when a bloke kills a baby and gets 20yrs with chance of parole, but a bloke that nicks money gets 30yrs..it's not only about Ronnie Biggs.. the sort of sentencing the courts andmistrate is all over the place... the people that tried to rob a daimond from the Greenwich Dome get 20yrs..and the man that killed baby P gets the same.. something wrong there.

garinda 07-08-2009 07:11

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Just for the sake of curiosity, it would be really interesting to know how much income tax Briggs paid in the U.K. prior to 1963, since it's highly doubtful he's paid anything into the system since.

People who chose crime as a profession, if they're any good at it, rarely work a 9-5 job, and pay all the relevant taxes that fund our welfare state.

That's usually down to millions of other law abiding, hard working people.

People like the train driver Jack Mills. The people who graft away for years, to put a roof over their families heads, and food on the table, and who pay all the taxes that fund our social benefit system, and the National Health Service, etc.

The same N.H.S. Brigg's returned here to take advantage of, because he'd blown all his ill-gotten gains, and couldn't afford medical care in Brazil.

garinda 07-08-2009 07:18

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Although his son is now saying his father is sorry, and feels remorse, the last interview I read, done a couple of months ago, Briggs proudly said he didn't feel any remorse for his crimes, and that he was glad his noteriety meant he'd earned his place in history.

jaysay 07-08-2009 08:53

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 734062)
Although his son is now saying his father is sorry, and feels remorse, the last interview I read, done a couple of months ago, Briggs proudly said he didn't feel any remorse for his crimes, and that he was glad his noteriety meant he'd earned his place in history.

On this issue I agree with you 100% Rindi

Lilly 07-08-2009 20:18

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 734039)
Old school crim.

Bit of a rogue.

Jack the lad.

The people's hero.

No he wasn't.

For God's sake he wasn't some sort of Robin Hood, robbing the rich to feed the poor. It was hard working tax payer's money on that train, and the only poor to benefit were the third world, poverty trapped, prostitues he bought as company in his fun filled exile.

I hope he finds peace now he's been released, and in the time he has left.

I'd also hope he'd eventually show some remorse for his part in the crime. If only for the victim's family, Jack Mills, the 58 year old, hard working train driver, who was coshed on the head with an iron bar, and who was never able to work again, and who suffered pain from his injuries until his death.

Perhaps some people wouldn't feel so misty eyed about Biggs if it'd been thier old dad who'd been attacked, whilst going about his business.

My sentiments exactly. :mosher:

Neil 07-08-2009 20:33

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He should not have been let.

Royboy39 07-08-2009 20:39

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 734059)
Just for the sake of curiosity, it would be really interesting to know how much income tax Briggs paid in the U.K. prior to 1963, since it's highly doubtful he's paid anything into the system since.

People who chose crime as a profession, if they're any good at it, rarely work a 9-5 job, and pay all the relevant taxes that fund our welfare state.

That's usually down to millions of other law abiding, hard working people.

People like the train driver Jack Mills. The people who graft away for years, to put a roof over their families heads, and food on the table, and who pay all the taxes that fund our social benefit system, and the National Health Service, etc.

The same N.H.S. Brigg's returned here to take advantage of, because he'd blown all his ill-gotten gains, and couldn't afford medical care in Brazil.

Dont give a toss.....he has been given back to his family for burial.
God speed.
Might create an interest on here with millions of hard working people but the man is on his last legs.
Rindi.....10 out of 10 for trying, but the subject will die with the demise of R Biggs.

garinda 07-08-2009 21:13

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 734355)
Dont give a toss.

If that's the case, and there's nothing constructive you can add to the discussion, it seems a bit of a waste of time bothering to post.

Taggy 07-08-2009 21:18

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Hopefully the family will have to pay for the burial too!!....How long before the Son has a book out???:rolleyes:

Best Regards - Taggy

Royboy39 07-08-2009 21:20

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[quote=garinda;734366]If that's the case, and there's nothing constructive you can add to the discussion, it seems a bit of a waste of time bothering to post.[/quote

That being the case, RIP Garinda and R Biggs, and let the man die with dignanty and in peace.......unless you have other ideas?

garinda 07-08-2009 21:23

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 734342)
My sentiments exactly. :mosher:

We seem to have a generation divide on this one.:rolleyes:

The old codgers seem to be misty eyed about old Ronnie, whilst those of us too young to remember seem to have more sypmathy with the victim, rather than those that chose violent crime as a career.


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