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Margaret Pilkington 07-08-2009 20:43

Re: Possible that the kids will be first testers of Swine Flu Vaccine
 
I think that we have to let people work out for themselves which are the Looney tune elements.
Most people have the intelligence to decide what is right for them.
A lot of the hype about the severity or otherwise of this viral infection has been whipped up by the media......and they are the ones who have done the most scaremongering.
It doesn't help at all when a government sets up a telephone helpline(with unqualified staff) that is supposed to determine whether folk actually do have this viral illness or not.
Many people will have been wrongly diagnosed, and then added to the figures, which make it look like the H1N1 virus is rampant.
Do you consider these to be the actions of responsible government?

And as noted in my previous post, the Chief Medical officer of Health is letting folk think that their children are going to be vaccinated in the early Autumn, when it is clear that the vaccines will not be ready until late September, and even then will not have been tested,or for that matter given a licence for use.

The phrase Pee up...and brewery spring to mind.

***Mr D*** 08-08-2009 15:37

Re: Possible that the kids will be first testers of Swine Flu Vaccine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 734358)
I think that we have to let people work out for themselves which are the Looney tune elements.
Most people have the intelligence to decide what is right for them.
A lot of the hype about the severity or otherwise of this viral infection has been whipped up by the media......and they are the ones who have done the most scaremongering.
It doesn't help at all when a government sets up a telephone helpline(with unqualified staff) that is supposed to determine whether folk actually do have this viral illness or not.
Many people will have been wrongly diagnosed, and then added to the figures, which make it look like the H1N1 virus is rampant.
Do you consider these to be the actions of responsible government?

And as noted in my previous post, the Chief Medical officer of Health is letting folk think that their children are going to be vaccinated in the early Autumn, when it is clear that the vaccines will not be ready until late September, and even then will not have been tested,or for that matter given a licence for use.

The phrase Pee up...and brewery spring to mind.

Well said.

Totaly the news media are the forfront of scare mongering.

I mean the BBC stated the Swine Flu helpline and Internet site was getting 2,400 hits a second, that 74,000,000 in 8 hours. :rolleyes:

In america they are using children to test the vaccine so it seems acording to this sorce.

YouTube - Kids are Guinea Pigs for Untested & Deadly Swine Flu / H1N1 Vaccine

And as for the we can diagnose over the phone oh let just say its swine flu. Things like this can happen (RIP).

Swine Flu: Toddler Georgia Keeling Dies From Meningitis After Misdiagnosis, Her Family Claim | UK News | Sky News

My main thing is to make people aware who might not of been, to think about the vaccine and look into it for themselves. Dont just take everything the media tell us as the truth.

Less 10-08-2009 13:53

Re: Possible that the kids will be first testers of Swine Flu Vaccine
 
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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 734648)
Well said.

Dont just take everything the media tell us as the truth.

Oh, I so agree with you, let's not take the media as the truth, but then again, why should we take what you say to be the truth?

We, (the people), don't need your version of the truth any more than the media's version.

You come on here acting like you are the light, the saviour, just because you think we don't read what you read, some of us read it before you announce the terror and then, dismiss it, that is what leads to independent thinking, surely we can be allowed that?

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Margaret Pilkington 10-08-2009 14:28

Re: Possible that the kids will be first testers of Swine Flu Vaccine
 
I think that is very similar to my comment in post number 16.
That the majority of us are capable of independent thought, and the weighing of the pros and cons of a situation.

And while there may be people on here who post a different opinion to mine, I may still consider what they have to say....even if later I choose to discount it.

I don't consider it to be scarmongering, any more than I consider what I read in the media to be scaremongering.

***Mr D*** 10-08-2009 16:30

Re: Possible that the kids will be first testers of Swine Flu Vaccine
 
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 735137)
Oh, I so agree with you, let's not take the media as the truth, but then again, why should we take what you say to be the truth?

We, (the people), don't need your version of the truth any more than the media's version.

You come on here acting like you are the light, the saviour, just because you think we don't read what you read, some of us read it before you announce the terror and then, dismiss it, that is what leads to independent thinking, surely we can be allowed that?

http://www.tiptopglobe.com/skin/smile/s11270.gif

All I post is information that I find, I have never once claimed to be the "one" you will find my comments are supported by links that I add to my threds.

Not everyone may see what information is out there.

I dont see you posting comments in the many other threds that people posts relating to media stories.:rolleyes:

This doesnt really effect you, you dont have children that fall into this catagory. where as I do and many others will also.

katex 10-08-2009 22:40

Re: Possible that the kids will be first testers of Swine Flu Vaccine
 
Of course it will be safe when it is ready ... just like all the other flu vaccines we have every year. This flu is quite mild to others.

Don't think it will be in time for us pensioners annual one either ... that is now on its way to the surgeries and ready to administer end of September. As normal, just based on experience of flu viruses the year before ... so could be September 2010 before we get it.

Will be a 2-hit course too by the way.

I would not hesitate to let a child of mine have this vaccine if can be proved would be effective, just like the MMR jab.

jaysay 11-08-2009 09:25

Re: Possible that the kids will be first testers of Swine Flu Vaccine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 735302)
Of course it will be safe when it is ready ... just like all the other flu vaccines we have every year. This flu is quite mild to others.

Don't think it will be in time for us pensioners annual one either ... that is now on its way to the surgeries and ready to administer end of September. As normal, just based on experience of flu viruses the year before ... so could be September 2010 before we get it.

Will be a 2-hit course too by the way.

I would not hesitate to let a child of mine have this vaccine if can be proved would be effective, just like the MMR jab.

The swine flu jab is being cultivated in the same way as the ordinary yearly flu jab, the culture is grown on eggs, given this fact I won't be bothering with it, I haven't had the ordinary flu jab since 1994, which cut my hospital admittance to virtually zero, from and average of 6 times every winter to 3 time since 1995 :rolleyes:


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