Arndale Clock....Save it or scrap it?
 

Let's have a vote. Should we save the Arndale Clock or scrap it?

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save it, why not?

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Aaaah. This is naughty after all the effort that has been made by KIPAX and others to save the bl**** thing....or at least find out what condition its in.

There's little left, lets at least save something even if it only to support those with the balls to do something about it. - Save it.

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Save The Clock/////

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I hate the bloody thing but Doug is right...let give our full support to our fellow AccyWebbers. If you believe in something then more power to your elbow.....may this be a start to a new empowered People's Hyndburn!

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If we get enough votes on this i will print it and take copy's to the town hall ect
yes save the clock!!!!!!!

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I reckon that we should save it and use it as a symbol.

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Can someone tell me exactly what there is to save?

Has someone told "yerself" that it needs saving.. Its just that the observer and the local mp have said they will look into it and see what is happeing to it.. I ahve letters and emails out waiting to be answered about it... I can only presume that you know somehting everyone else doesnt know? So please share and tell us what happened to the clock and why it needs saving?

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I voted yes because I would like to see the clock returned to some place of prominence in the town and in full working order again. I'm waiting with baited breath for the replies to KIPAX's letters and emails but I'll probably be on holiday when that happens and it will take me ages to catch up on things when I get back.

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I suggested that it should be 'saved' because I fear that it will end up in the same place as everything else that has dissapeared from public view.

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The point is we dont know if it needs saving.. there may very well be plans for it...

Step one is to find out what the plans for the clock are if any.... Then if there are no plans we need to know who owns it.. is it working and what would be the cost of fixing or relocating it.... Having a vote to save it is jumping the gun ever so slightly... Why dont we get step one over wiht first..:)

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Good point.

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I voted to scrap it, I never liked it and I think there are better things to challenge the council with but that's another thread.

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Mick, are you going to print out the poll on the Globe Centre Artwork too?

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Don't it always seem to go.....
You don't know what you've got til it's gone?

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Save The Clock

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To make Kipax happy. "Save it" perhaps should read "Restore to a place of prominence"

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scrap it

all it has ever been is a damn eyesore and a waste of money so dont waste even more money saving it

could see if any neighbouring towns want it i suppose :)

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We haven't wasted any money on it, it was commissioned and bought by the owners of the Arndale.

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still good money down the drain no matter who paid for it :p

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Scrap it..............it's hideous.................. and it made my son cry when he first saw it!!

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Lets keep it it is unique and besides if the clock works they could find it a home. As a oiece of modern art somebody must have a place sonwere for it.

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think it should be saved/restored, at least its something- still haven,t forgiven em for the demise of peel park.

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quite fancy a new watch ! can they shrink it?;)

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The first time I saw the clock in '88' I was totally enthralled. My wife also. We hung around it for a while watching it work. There was also tons of people in there as well watching it. I heard many adjectives bestowed upon it. However it seemed to be a unique kind of Accringtonian icon. Lets face it if you loved it or hated it it was at least a local attraction. I hope it's restored

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Oh shut up moaning. We all know you have absolutely no taste, you can't have, you have me as a mate!

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i think we should keep it!!! what else have we got?? i used to love standing and watching it.. where else can you find something this unique??

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cant realy argue with that can i :idunno:

:p

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well I loved watching that clock. Used to take the kids in just to watch it. No longer go into accy much so maybe I could be persuaded if they brought back the clock. Although don't think kids would be as interested now they are teenagers!

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I only saw it once and didn't have my camera. As this thread proves it was/is a talking point - why not have it where it was intended?

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Scrap it a soon as possible, it was/is an eyesore and I personally found it a rather cheap looking object.

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keep it a part of accys history, remember waiting under it waitin for the missus finishing work..lol

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if it is saved less will have his job back pedaling that damn bike.

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I would only be part time though accyman, it would interfere with tHe research work in the Railway:D

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Not if it was piped up free, as recompense fer his labours.:D

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Perhaps it could be relocated there Jaysay!!:D


Best Regards - Taggy

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If it is gone then we should make the council have a new one of the same style and concept made!!!

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Define 'as soon as possible'. It's taken you 5 years to comment on it :D

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It's not gone, it's somewhere in storage under the Arndale Centre.

Apparently it would cost about £20k to repair and refix it.

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Not surprised, can't imagine that there are many people who have the skill to work on such a thing. But it'd be nice to repair it, and I think enough money is wasted on ornamental things that none of the community asked for in the first place so maybe it is about time they listened to us and gave us back something we actually want and has some real value to people.

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I bet if they dropped it into The Clock Shop on Warner St, he'd have it fixed within the hour.

:D

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The Council didn't own the clock did they? Why should they be made to replace it using our taxes? (It could effect all sorts of things, maybe even student grants).

Don't get me wrong I would like to see it restored to where it used to be, I have fond memories of waiting with my then young children for it to do it's thing.

The council have provided a perfectly adequate clock on the bus station, use that if you can't figure out how to set the time on your mobile.:D

Yes it did look a bit cheap and tacky but in a unique manner and certainly not through the eyes of the children, they loved it.
:rolleyes:

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as this subject was started nearly 6 yrs ago, the "Poll" shows yer in the minority "Hyacinth":D

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Save it! :)

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im preppared to meet half way on this subject so how about demolish the arndale and restore accrington town center from teh hideous eyesore it is now and re-locate the clock inside teh market hall

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Does no one have a damn watch in the great Metropolis of acorn town

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yes but its harder for a pickpocket to get your wallet when looking at a watch on your wrist rather than stood in a crowd gawping up in teh air at a clock.The last time that clock was up pickpocketing was so rife the police had to put posters up in the arndale near the clock warning about pickpockets operating there

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I never saw it open
...and don't think I missed much:rolleyes:

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Yes you did, it was a very interesting clock

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Were you busy picking pockets or your nose margaret lol

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I just don't 'do' any shopping - everything I need I buy online - more choice, delivered to my door.

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bet ya were doing some when the clock was yon margaret.;)

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I do vaguely recall walking past it twice, but didn't hang about to gawp.

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Its not about shopping, its about getting your butt outside and interacting with people instead of becoming a hermit sat in your flat behind a PC screen

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its not a flat its an asylum hence the not going out doors and online shopping :)

only kidding Margaret we know your perfectly safe once you have your tinfoil hat on to stop aliens reading your mind :D

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I spend an unusually large amount of time asleep (medical reasons)
I do read a lot too.
As for socialising - I would rather avoid the 'masses'- they have 'nasty vibes':D

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NOOOOOOOOOOOO you've got it all wrong mate....demolish Accrington and keep the clock

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Do you never go out Margaret. It's a big world out there and you only live once. Try it you'll like it

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Are you related to Attilla th Hun Flashy lol

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I am not agrophobic. I do go out sometimes.
I am fortunate to live in a lovely location where I often see other people arrive for their 'picnic days out'. I 'sit out' and stroll in the nearby fields woods and tracks.
I see no purpose to venture into a grubby built up area to meet people I don't know, or want to know:rolleyes:

I visit family and have meals out with them sometimes.
I realise that few people enjoy their own company as much as I do.
The joys of being alone are wonderful.:D
I have been to all the places I want to see and done more than I wanted to do - I have a peaceful life - don't knock it.

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:eek:

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I am not knocking your way of life Margaret As a matter of fact I applaud it. I need people around me all the time to enjoy the banter. I get the most joy out of immediate family specially the Grand kids.

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save it because the little one use,t to love it

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I never saw it in action but I'd be in favour of bringing it back, it sounds quite unique.

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I remember the clock well from the early 1990s, and people used to wait for it to strike the hour and begin its performance.

Its a simple question of economics. For the owners of the Arndale to bring it back they would have to be satisfied that it would bring enough extra visitors to the centre to justify them charging a premium on the rents to shopkeepers to pay for the running costs.

Its hard to see that happening in the current climate. They have enough problems letting the shops at current rent levels.

However, the Council has budgets to be spent on trying to regenerate the town centre, which have previously been spent on flash mobs and dodgy celebrity cooks.

Maybe it could do worse than spending some of that money on bringing back the clock?

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There you go again, wanting to spend money on something permanent.

What the public seem to want are flash-in-the-pan ideas.

May God strike me down if I be telling a lie.....

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Urgh scrap it - it's the ugliest thing I have ever seen in my life it used to give me nightmares :D

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It had a better face on it than PB.......at least I could stand to look at the clock face!

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Get down shep:D

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Would rather watch the crowd swimming against the tide up Peel Street:rolleyes:

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Hmmm.... We AccyWebbers should raise money to have the clock installed back again.

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Save it!!!

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I remember when it was first seen, my nephew was only a little toddler and he was petrified of it!, i liked it ...so YES save it!
Put it back and git rid of that stuuupid sky stall!

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I agree panther!!!.

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When i was growing up the Arndale was always full of people, you walk through now and it's like a ghost town, i agree the clock should be brought back but i don't think it will make anymore people come into the Arndale just because it's there, does anyone know the running costs of the clock?

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when we were young the arndale had curry's,Dixons,Virgin records ,Gas showrooms and many other shops that people used regularly

as soon as whitebirk industrial estate opened up all the big names went there and left the arndale empty

in reality the arndale should never have been built it wasn't needed.All the shops moved off Broadway etc into it leaving empty shops that are now charity shops then proceeded to leave the arndale leaving that almost empty with no real quality shops to speak of that could have just as easily set up on Broadway

any shops of any use on broadway and union street are now either betting shops,charity shops or pound shops infact accy has got so bad we dont even have a toy shop now unless you count the toy section of teh argos catalog as a toy shop.

long way of saying the clock wont do a damn thing to attract people to accy but making accy an attractive place to company's will instead of crippleing them with extortionate rent,council tax etc and forcing them elsewhere like the last lot in power did.

we lost a beautiful outdoor market so they could build a few shops even though there was and is plenty of space in the arndale for them.

dont get me started on the destruction of the fish market mosaic that was smashed to smitherines so some kids could make pictures for the floor that would normaly be stuck on the fridge door while mummy and daddy tried their best to say awww how pretty it was without biting their lip off lol

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save it - i used to love it as a child its a peice of history. well at least it is to me!

Arndale Clock....Save it or scrap it?
 

accyman, this is for you.

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ahh even got the graffiti with it cheers lol :D

Three distinct featues of accy center that were lost making the wilkinsons complex

1: the outdoor market that didn't stink of rotten fish

2: the mosaic

3: the cigarette and sweetie kiosk which i believe was smashed to smithereens also despite requests to save it

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The internet campaign, to reinstate the clock, has a prominent article about it, in this weekend's Observer.

Well done Atarah.

:)

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Be worried, panther!

As for the clock, after seeing the video I'd say it was worth re-instating.

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a piece of 70s tat , glittery and shiney bling designed to attract those with an attention span of a flea , brain dead morons would stand/sit/wait for 1/2 an hour for less than 2 minutes visual stimulation. The same period of time spent hanging about could have been better spent taking the snotty nosed skrieking kids on a 5 minute walk up to the childrens section of the public Library or even a 2 minute walk to the now closed Wardleworths bookshop. Either junk the thing (toxic waste) or set it on the top of the Coppice with solar panels so the brain dead Lumpa Lumpas (Tagalog for fat overweight whales) get some exercise . ;) :D

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Too long waiting for Old Faithful to shoot right up for you, has left you a little bitter?

:rolleyes::D

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Extra!, Extra!, Read all about it!;
It's high time the world clock returned to Accrington | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

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70s SJ? Are you sure???

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evidently it was the 80s , (lost a decade somewhere ) apologies , ;)

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Lol, i thought i recalled the Arndale being built, if it had have been the 70s i wouldn't have been old enough to remember it

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The place where the Arndale was built was where I parked my tanker at night, then they built the Arndale and I used the bit of spare land behind the Castle pub. The taxman built his office there and I had to start parking in our yard at Clayton. I asked the taxman for a fuel allowance for my car to get to work and was turned down flat

All this because of an under-used Arndale centre, the clock will make no difference at all and certainly wont make me go into town especially to see it

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Another plus point, in favour of it's return.

:D

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them building the tax office also put Ralph's diner out of business.It managed to limp along for a few years but he lost most his custom as the wagon drivers he catered for parked elsewhere.Granted 1 breakfast could give you a heart seizure but it was a decent enough grease and spoon gaff.

Ralph's diner was also a good place to find a council employee if you wanted one as they had 3 hour lunch breaks there lol

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Perhaps they should put it in Weatherspoons, if the ceilings are high enough. :D:D

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If that's a wish to keep me out of town garinda you don't have to worry, I will try to stay away as much as possible.

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In reality I don't particularly care where you go, or what you do.

Though if the clock's return means there's one less moaning Minnie in town, whilst I'm doing my shopping, that can only be a positive thing.

:)

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I enjoyed seeing the clock garinda when I went into the Arndale, as an ex engineer I though the designer was brilliant. As for moaning, I am one of the few who take life as it comes and let the rest get on with their own worries.

It is the town in general which depresses me, I went down the other day and everybody seemed to be wandering around like zombies, that's not a moan just a comment from a 73 year old who has seen more than his share of life, with a forces medal to prove it.

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This sounds a bit like a pointless moan...

Especially as you offered no evidence to prove that the clock's return would 'make no difference at all'.

Here, please accept another medal, awarded to Defeatist Moaner of the Week.

http://www.parteaz.co.uk/img/p/1658-1852-home.jpg

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Please have the last word garinda, I have had enough bickering with faceless forumites.

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From memory, the space where the clock was sited certainly attracted more people, particularly families with children, to watch the hourly mechanical shenanigans, than what's being flogged there now.

Today most people avoid the area like the plague, and scuttle past sharpish. So as not to be pestered by some eager beaver wanting them to sign up to a satellite television company, or a motoring organisation.

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Great clock from me Childhood.

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Don't be silly ain't been there for years;)