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Taggy 28-09-2009 17:21

Council Tax well Spent????
 
If anyone has doubts about the value for money we get from our Council Tax, Fear Not.......its going to a good cause!!!:rolleyes:

Daily Express | UK News :: Families foot bill for council pensions

Best Regards - Taggy

Mancie 28-09-2009 18:14

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These pensions used to paid from the old rates system... then the Poll Tax and now the Council Tax.. nothing new, but maybe the all singing all dancing Tories will sort it out next year :D

Neil 28-09-2009 18:48

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The pensions should be paid for by the employees with a percentage paid for by the Council in the same way as none public sector pensions are paid.



Should Councils end final salary pension schemes like most private sector employers have?

Royboy39 28-09-2009 20:28

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 748680)
These pensions used to paid from the old rates system... then the Poll Tax and now the Council Tax.. nothing new, but maybe the all singing all dancing Tories will sort it out next year :D

Mancie, you are beginning to think like a Tory.
Jobs for the boys....out of the window.
Jobs for life out of the window.
Fair days work for a fair days pay.
Granny State...out of the window.
If the country cant afford it why burden the taxpayers for years to come with the failures of the present Government?
Time for a change.
I still ask the Question....Where has the money gone?

hedman2003 28-09-2009 21:41

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 748702)
The pensions should be paid for by the employees with a percentage paid for by the Council in the same way as none public sector pensions are paid.



Should Councils end final salary pension schemes like most private sector employers have?


The pensions are funded by the employees paying a minimum of a 6% contribution from their salary plus a contribution from the employer

MargaretR 28-09-2009 22:15

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For most of the time I was a civil servant, our pay rises were decided by a pay review body, which looked at pay in the private sector for comparable type work, then reduced our pay award to take into account the fact that no deductions from our pay were made for the pension.
So we paid for our pensions by being paid less in wages than was due.

Mancie 28-09-2009 22:49

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 748767)
Mancie, you are beginning to think like a Tory.
Jobs for the boys....out of the window.
Jobs for life out of the window.
Fair days work for a fair days pay.
Granny State...out of the window.
If the country cant afford it why burden the taxpayers for years to come with the failures of the present Government?
Time for a change.
I still ask the Question....Where has the money gone?

The money has gone/goes to paying the national pensions.. I know that is abhorant to the Tories but I'm sure they will sort it out just like everything else they are gonna sort out.

Royboy39 28-09-2009 23:12

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 748849)
The money has gone/goes to paying the national pensions.. I know that is abhorant to the Tories and I'm sure they will sort it out just like everything else they are gonna sort out.

You may be right...then again?
Mancie...the pink goggles are on again, if you can defend the spend, spend policies of the government go for it
I can't afford it, you can't afford it and most people in the UK can't afford it.
25 Grand per household, are we living in dreamland or what.
You can't lay this on the shoulders of Maggie.
The country is in a mess, the currency is in a mess, the Banking System is in a mess, the Governmnent is in a mess.
I tried to add more but time was not on my side,

Mancie 28-09-2009 23:35

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come on Royboy.. you know as well as I that these pensions have been paid for at least the last 40yrs.. yet all of a sudden it's down to Labour.

jaysay 29-09-2009 09:30

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 748853)
come on Royboy.. you know as well as I that these pensions have been paid for at least the last 40yrs.. yet all of a sudden it's down to Labour.

As a Labour councillor once said to me "we're in power we'll take the credit" it works both ways "if your in power you get the flake as well and this shower deserve all the flake that's coming their way, but in spades

Reamer 29-09-2009 12:28

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 748680)
These pensions used to paid from the old rates system... then the Poll Tax and now the Council Tax.. nothing new, but maybe the all singing all dancing Tories will sort it out next year :D


Yeh, and next week at the Tory party conference they're gonna tell us all how they're gonna do it, he he ! I wait with baited breath. :D:D

jaysay 29-09-2009 15:42

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Originally Posted by Reamer (Post 748961)
Yeh, and next week at the Tory party conference they're gonna tell us all how they're gonna do it, he he ! I wait with baited breath. :D:D

Well whatever they say they can't do any worse than this lot or for that matter any Labour Government in history, they always leave a **** tip for others to clean up after them

Reamer 30-09-2009 12:01

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 749017)
Well whatever they say they can't do any worse than this lot or for that matter any Labour Government in history, they always leave a **** tip for others to clean up after them


Nothing like a reasoned, well balanced standpoint ,is there , Jaysay ?? :rolleyes:

Taggy 30-09-2009 13:02

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Whichever side of the Fence your on 20% of Council Tax going on Town Hall Staff Pensions is simply not defensible......its an outrage!!!


Best Regards - Taggy

jaysay 30-09-2009 15:24

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Originally Posted by Reamer (Post 749385)
Nothing like a reasoned, well balanced standpoint ,is there , Jaysay ?? :rolleyes:

You don't need one if you've half a brain;)


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