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andrewb 15-01-2010 19:43

Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
 
Graham has talked a lot about CCHQ imposing their own list after January 1st. For example the silly talk of all women shortlists. I think this might be incorrect. As far as I'm aware only constituencies where a sitting Conservative MP stands down after January 1st will be subject to these by-election selection procedures.

garinda 15-01-2010 20:02

Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
 
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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 778618)
For example the silly talk of all women shortlists. I think this might be incorrect.

You only 'think' it might be incorrect.

Until you know for sure, then it mightn't be 'silly talk'.

Facts are what's needed, not you second guessing, and 'thinking'.

You silly Billy.

andrewb 15-01-2010 20:45

Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
 
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 778625)
You only 'think' it might be incorrect.

Until you know for sure, then it mightn't be 'silly talk'.

Facts are what's needed, not you second guessing, and 'thinking'.

You silly Billy.

This isn't Encyclopaedia Britannica, more a source of local information and community discussion. Sorry for trying to be helpful.

garinda 15-01-2010 20:59

Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
 
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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 778643)
This isn't Encyclopaedia Britannica, more a source of local information and community discussion. Sorry for trying to be helpful.

If you merely 'think' something to be incorrect, without knowing one way or the other, it seems silly to second guess what the truth might be, without anymore evidence.

andrewb 15-01-2010 21:08

Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
 
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 778651)
If you merely 'think' something to be incorrect, without knowing one way or the other, it seems silly to second guess what the truth might be, without anymore evidence.

The evidence is in the links you yourself posted.

David Cameron gives in to all-women candidate shortlists - Times Online

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From January the party will move to a new state of poll alert, under which party headquarters in London will put forward approved lists of candidates from which local parties will select. This will happen in constituencies where MPs announce after January that they are standing down.

garinda 15-01-2010 21:22

Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
 
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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 778655)
The evidence is in the links you yourself posted.

David Cameron gives in to all-women candidate shortlists - Times Online

Er...right, so there is no more new information, and over a week later you've arrived at the conclusion that you 'think' it's incorect that Hyndburn will have an all female list.

Silly, and bizarre.

andrewb 15-01-2010 21:27

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 778661)
Er...right, so there is no more new information, and over a week later you've arrived at the conclusion that you 'think' it's incorect that Hyndburn will have an all female list.

Silly, and bizarre.

Just stating what has been missed before. What I have highlighted would suggest that Hyndburn is not applicable. Therefore I think the original idea that Hyndburn could be shortlisted on this basis is incorrect.

garinda 15-01-2010 21:34

Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
 
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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 778664)
Therefore I think the original idea that Hyndburn could be shortlisted on this basis is incorrect.

I think it's always wiser to know something as fact, rather than just 'think' it might be, before opening my mouth.

Otherwise I'd be afraid I'd look silly.

Knowledge is power.

Just 'thinking' something might, or mightn't be, correct or incorrect, isn't.

andrewb 15-01-2010 21:45

Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
 
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 778666)
I think it's always wiser to know something as fact, rather than just 'think' it might be, before opening my mouth.

Otherwise I'd be afraid I'd look silly.

Knowledge is power.

Just 'thinking' something might, or mightn't be, correct or incorrect, isn't.


Do you agree or disagree with what I quoted and the analysis? I have quoted a newspaper and provided an analysis of an important sentence for our boroughs Conservative candidate selection.

I shall repeat it,

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From January the party will move to a new state of poll alert, under which party headquarters in London will put forward approved lists of candidates from which local parties will select. This will happen in constituencies where MPs announce after January that they are standing down.
The highlighted section suggests this will not apply to Hyndburn.

garinda 15-01-2010 22:08

Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
 
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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 778670)
Do you agree or disagree with what I quoted and the analysis? I have quoted a newspaper and provided an analysis of an important sentence for our boroughs Conservative candidate selection.

I shall repeat it,



The highlighted section suggests this will not apply to Hyndburn.

Then why not stop dithering about on the 'thinking' fence, and state it as fact?

Of course, if subsequently Hyndburn does have an all women list imposed on them, you'd look even sillier.

If I know something to be true I'll happily state it, and I'm not afraid to say so.

I wouldn't hide behind the get out clause of 'thinking' it to be correct, or incorrect.

Facts are facts, and that's a fact.

;)

andrewb 15-01-2010 22:12

Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
 
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 778677)
Then why not stop dithering about on the 'thinking' fence, and state it as fact?

Of course, if subsequently Hyndburn does have an all women list imposed on them, you'd look even sillier.

If I know something to be true I'll happily state it, and I'm not afraid to say so.

I wouldn't hide behind the get out clause of 'thinking' it to be correct, or incorrect.

Facts are facts, and that's a fact.

;)

No opinion on my postings, other than a pedantic rant. Never questioned Graham's original post for factual content. Oh dear! :rolleyes:

garinda 15-01-2010 22:15

Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
 
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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 778664)
Just stating what has been missed before.

Anyone interested enough would have seen it over a week ago, when l graciously gave the link.

If you missed it, no need to thank me, I'm just happy you eventually took it all in.

andrewb 15-01-2010 22:18

Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
 
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 778680)
Anyone interested enough would have seen it over a week ago, when l graciously gave the link.

If you missed it, no need to thank me, I'm just happy you eventually took it all in.

You obviously missed it too considering you did not question Graham's post on it.

garinda 15-01-2010 22:20

Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
 
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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 778678)
No opinion on my postings, other than a pedantic rant. Never questioned Graham's original post for factual content. Oh dear! :rolleyes:

Pedantic?

Congratulations, l presume you've progressed to the next level reading book.

Nor indeed a rant.

You wouldn't survive a rant, trust me.

Just bemusement, that over a week later than everyone else, you now 'think' you know what your party's doing.

Well done you.

garinda 15-01-2010 22:24

Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
 
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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 778682)
You obviously missed it too considering you did not question Graham's post on it.

Er..no.

I always read something before I post a link.

Since I've no idea of the apparent power struggle going on within your own party, as to who's on the selection list, nothing would suprise me.

I know who my preferred candidate would be, because I like a good laugh.


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