Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 766435)

So, you reckon the majority of Accringtonians have a problem that Ilyas Khan, a local lad of Asian origin, has come up with the money to save their football club from oblivion? What utter and complete crap you talk!

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 766986)

I hope like most Accringtonians that Mr Kahn's intentions are honest and true and open.
It is early days yet,maybe or maybe not,you will become more enlightened.
I hope I don't have to say to you in six or twelve months time,quote
you should have gone to specs saver :D

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 766986)

Your quote. If there where more like Mr Kahn we should encourage them to help locally.
Since Mass immigration started in Accrington,can you inform me
of a local lad or female of Asian origin who has helped the non muslim local community of Accrington without favour or financial reward?

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 767075)

Seem to have shifted your ground somewhat now, don't you, Gordie? It was only a couple of days ago you were telling us that you thought the majority of Accringtonians had a problem with Ilyas Khan taking over Stanley.

Is this what's called a dignified retreat? ;)

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 767075)

Seem to have shifted your ground somewhat now, don't you, Gordie? It was only a couple of days ago you were telling us that you thought the majority of Accringtonians had a problem with Ilyas Khan taking over Stanley.

Is this what's called a dignified retreat? ;)

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 767046)

not in the least, i know of many voluntary workers who have donated much of their lives to helping elderly/sick etc, i was refering to financial aid like the guy you belittle has given,to our club, but i'm sure you knew that, or have i credited you with sense n ya aint got any?:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 767050)

ahh but wait until corner shops start springing up next to the flags on the pitch :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D


ill get me coat :o

Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 767207)

As I am in my 20th year of exile I will hold my hand up and say no i cannot to that question. Mr Khan could be an example of what the Asian communities could do if they were given a chance and the same could be said of the other newly settled. People need to be given a chance to prove what they can do regardless of how small the gesture.

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 767375)

How is hoping Mr Khan is honest and true a retreat,do we not all live in hope.
I noticed you did not answer the big question regarding local lads of ethnic origins who have contributed to the all of the local community not just a section without favour or financial gain.
Maybe the question is to hard for you.:D

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 767375)

How is hoping Mr Khan is honest and true a retreat,do we not all live in hope.
I noticed you did not answer the big question regarding local lads of ethnic origins who have contributed to the all of the local community not just a section without favour or financial gain.
Maybe the question is to hard for you.:D

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 767387)

When are you going to answer the big question :D

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 767452)

Is he talking to himself here:confused: And hasn't he figured out that the answer to the "big question" is 42.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 767394)

There are endless number of people from ethnic origins who contribute to the whole of the community -

Teachers - don't segregate classes
Doctors - treat all patients
Policemen - don't just protect people of one origin
Shopkeepers - sell to anyone and everyone
Youth workers - work with young people across the board

You want names, i can give you names but I don't think it's fair to publish them on here. I'm sure there are more areas that I haven't thought of already.

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 767408)

No I didn't answer "the big question" as you put it, but then again, you didn't ask me, you asked Spuggie, or does your limited IQ affect your recall too? And, I haven't commented on it because I don't honestly know and, unlike you, I don't talk about things of which I know nothing.

What I do know is that you came up with some ridiculous rumour about Stanley changing their name. Like so much that you post on here, it turned out to be junk and you were quite rightly ridiculed for it. You then started shifting your ground and saying that it wasn't surprising that the rumour had started because of the change in ownership. When I asked if you had a problem with that, you said that you thought most Accringtonians would have. Again, your ridiculous assertation has been shot to pieces, and you're now saying that you "hope Mr khan is honest and true". So, could you explain the problem that you reckon most Accringtonians have with Ilyas Khan taking the club over...or is the question too hard for you? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 767394)

I'm sure there are more areas that I haven't thought of already.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 767495)

in answer to the above question, i would say its improved 100 fold,since Gordie left.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 767681)

Mass unemployment,some of the lowest valued houses in the UK,
some of the lowest paid wages in the UK.
What planet are you on.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 767725)

If you guys would guit "talking" to him as if he were a rational being, he might just drift away ...

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 767677)

If the last question was to hard for you,why not just say I do not know of any
local lads of ethnic origin who have contributed to the local community of Accrington without financial gain or favour.
Will you answer the question with honesty :D:D

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 767725)

If you guys would guit "talking" to him as if he were a rational being, he might just drift away ...

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 767665)

Gayle, all the above you mention receive financial gain for their good work.
Can you or anyone else on here name local ethnic people who have contributed to the all of the community, not just their section with out financial gain or favour :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 767697)

I can name two people of white origin at least ...both accywebbers one who volunteered in the accrington & districts within the borough of hyndburn for £0 and it actually cost that person every week to get there and for other items as well regarding that volunteering post ... and another one ... and i would say a lot of people on here would probably come up with a lot more ..

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 767725)

If you guys would guit "talking" to him as if he were a rational being, he might just drift away ...

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 768023)

Some people on this site are so afraid to say anything negative even when justified regarding ethnic issues, due to their perception of appearing politically correct to others on this forum,

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 767764)

Are you really so thick or do you forget what people have written, after an adult has read their posts out to you? I said...I DON'T HONESTLY KNOW...is that clear enough for you, or does it only count if I repeat your original question, but rearrange the words?

However, I see you still haven't answered my question...why do you think Accringtonians have a problem with Ilyas Khan taking over Stanley? I suppose that question IS too hard for you. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 768043)

Thanks for answering with honesty that you do not know of any local lads or females of Asian origin who have contributed to the whole of the community without financial gain. Surely you can understand that this answers your question or maybe you are to"thick". I rest my case, goodbye and good luck (my friend).:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 768041)

Good Grief, you can talk some real high class manure!

The people you are accusing of being P.C. are well known for calling a spade, (of any ethnic background), a spade, if someone in our community deserves calling they will be called, but to have a dumb S.O.B. ex-Pat' moaner like you calling our ethnics is an insult to us all not just them. We, (as in all of this area), have found a way with getting along with our neighbours, we don't need you telling us how, why, or when we should re-act any differently to each other than we are doing now.

Next time your tempted to the area on some morbidly sentimental trip, just remember, you left, you came back you saw nothing you liked so....

Don't bother to come back again you knuckle scraping moron!

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Originally Posted by cherokee (Post 768056)

Blimey I thought this thread had died lol!!!

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 768031)

Possibly all the way to Canada.:D

Originally Posted by cherokee (Post 768056)

Blimey I thought this thread had died lol!!!

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 768144)

Geordie, I ask again as you have ignored my question to you.....

Geordie, you keep on at this so, why don't you answer your own question, Name ONE person, of white origin, who have contributed to the local community of Accrington without financial gain or favour.

Originally Posted by LYNX1 (Post 768189)

Well been watching this thread all the way..........Gordie has some valid points which no one is prepared to listen to ( your choice).......Ilyas Khan has done a bloody good job for Stanley, No dispute there.....problem I have is Gordie hasn't been given the right to view his point, everyone has jumped on him and no one cares about his point of view (which we are all entitled too)..........so I for one will give him his right to express himself......which most of us are too afraid to do (whether you admit it or not), so get on with it Gordie, fill yer boots.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 768193)

sorry lynx he negated everything with the downright lie in his opening post.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by LYNX1 (Post 768195)

I have to say he has some valid points, which seem to have been overlooked.

Originally Posted by LYNX1 (Post 768189)

Well been watching this thread all the way..........Gordie has some valid points which no one is prepared to listen to ( your choice).......Ilyas Khan has done a bloody good job for Stanley, No dispute there.....problem I have is Gordie hasn't been given the right to view his point, everyone has jumped on him and no one cares about his point of view (which we are all entitled too)..........so I for one will give him his right to express himself......which most of us are too afraid to do (whether you admit it or not), so get on with it Gordie, fill yer boots.

Originally Posted by zacdingle (Post 768068)

Stuff hollands pies try one of our chicken tikka curries at half time.sorreeeeee.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 768080)

So, Gordie, in the end you didn't have the bottle to come right out and say it, because like most of your ilk, you prefer to deal in sneers and innuendo. A few things you should know...

If you know anything about Accringtonians (and I'm beginning to think you don't), you'll know that they are not backward at coming forward and making their views known. If there was any disquiet about the present ownership of Stanley, it would have manifested itself on this forum, in the columns of the local press and at the ground. It hasn't...Ilyas Khan is regarded as the good guy in the tangled affairs of the club over the past few months (something else to add to the long list of subjects of which you know nothing). He is regarded with the utmost respect by the fans, many of whom are non-PC to say the least.

Secondly, if you think that owning a club like Accrington Stanley can lead to any sort of financial advantage, then all I can say is, this is yet another subject where you display your profound ignorance.

You might also be interested to know that Ilyas Khan is chairman of the Leonard Cheshire Organisation, so the trustees of one of Britain's foremost charitable organisations don't appear to have a problem with him.

And that, Gordie, is my final word on the subject. Feel free to carry on making a fool of yourself...

Originally Posted by Pheonix (Post 767827)

Geordie

I am of ethnic origin, I have done voluntary work as a trustee for the last 7-8 years without a penny in remunerations, I am also a school governor, I do not get paid for that and there are many from an ethnic background that do similar work. There are also many white indigenous people doing excellent voluntary work. There are also many on this web board that do the same but do not like to sing and shout about it.

Before you start I love this country and have also served queen and country I did 9 years in the British Army. I made a lot of friends from all walks of life, black and white whilst serving and still have contact with many. I have seen colleagues and friends shot and blown up but at no time did I see their colour or ethnic background nor them mine, we were all in it together as one. Furthermore I have never been out of work and have never claimed benefits and I am now over 50.

I am a great believer in treating people as individuals and not as groups. As I see it there are some good people among the ethnics within Hyndburn and some not so good but you get that in all communities.

I am sure where you are in Ireland it is the same to some extent.

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 768273)

Gordie... any comments?????

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 768287)

that is still incorrect ilyas khan has NO wish to take oer stanley, he did bail the club out, by paying the tax bill, he has even been quoted as saying he has not the time or the expertise to run a football club, if ya wish the matter to be finished, finish it with correct facts.

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 768307)

Doris,if not the take over of Accrington Stanley football club,then to further his influence within Accrington, is that more correct for you Doris, or is it Noris :D

Originally Posted by LYNX1 (Post 768189)

Well been watching this thread all the way..........Gordie has some valid points which no one is prepared to listen to ( your choice).......Ilyas Khan has done a bloody good job for Stanley, No dispute there.....problem I have is Gordie hasn't been given the right to view his point, everyone has jumped on him and no one cares about his point of view (which we are all entitled too)..........so I for one will give him his right to express himself......which most of us are too afraid to do (whether you admit it or not), so get on with it Gordie, fill yer boots.

Originally Posted by LYNX1 (Post 768195)

I have to say he has some valid points, which seem to have been overlooked.

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 768348)

Out of curioisty Gordie, what did you do for the town ?

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 764373)

Just returned to Accrington for a short break after seven years and after driving around visiting friends I thought I was in Afghanistan.......

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 768386)

I've been racking the old brains for the past few weeks trying to remember where I know the name Gordie from....and now I do remember. Yep, it is about seven years ago that 'Gordie' - not his real name, of course, but a nickname - left the town in somewhat embarassing circumstances - for him, I mean.

It was in the papers at the time.....there had been a spate of thefts of women's underware from washing lines..and as I recall, young Gordie was caught 'red handed' wearing the said stolen apparel and a German helmet while engaging in an unnatural act with a bullock, somewhere up the back of the coppice. There were a few other stories came to light when he was up before the magistrates.....I'll try and remember them as well. It was all in the Observer at the time....anyway, it's definatly him and it looks like he's back. So watch your washing line, girls and everyone else keep your cattle locked away.

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 768307)

Doris,if not the take over of Accrington Stanley football club,then to further his influence within Accrington, is that more correct for you Doris, or is it Noris :D

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 768348)

Out of curioisty Gordie, what did you do for the town ?

Originally Posted by Pheonix (Post 768352)

Yes Geordie, I am a Muslim and proud of it, I also teach my children and all around me the same ethos.

I have friends from various religions and backgrounds some are even athiests, I am god-father to one of my friends children who are catholics.

I do believe that people have a right to express themselves but not at the extent of deliberately hurting or abusing others or by inhibiting or constraining their rights.

I believe we need to be understanding and tolerant towards everyone but not at the expense and detriment of where you live, your family or the people around you who cannot defend themselves for waht ever reason.

No matter where I go within England or internationally nothing beats the feeling when you come to the boundaries of Lancashire and see a red rose and getting into Acrington you get that feeling that you are home.

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 768638)

I want to apolagise for any hurt or offence I may have caused.
What started of as a bit of harmless expression turned into offence towards some people.

Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 764373)

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 768668)

Well he's apologised now Less, so that makes it alright,;) doesn't it :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 768668)

Well he's apologised now Less, so that makes it alright,;) doesn't it :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 768670)

It would be if he did the honourable thing now, taking himself, a bottle of Whiskey and a revolver into the back room, never to darken our pages again.

:)

Ah, I see cashy was thinking along similar lines.:D