Accrington Web

Accrington Web (https://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/index.php)
-   General Chat (https://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f69/)
-   -   In Car Music (https://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f69/in-car-music-50728.html)

park381 05-12-2009 07:52
In Car Music
 
Do you think the police are right for issuing a fixed penalty ticket for this

Wirral dad fined for playing The Killers' music too loud - Wirral News

Mick 05-12-2009 07:58
Re: In Car Music
 
Yes they are some old,or ill or children will be trying to sleep by 10pm so playing loud music is not on.
there is no need for it at all.
i just wish they would do it more often and round here

park381 05-12-2009 08:11
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mick (Post 767544)
Yes they are some old,or ill or children will be trying to sleep by 10pm so playing loud music is not on.
there is no need for it at all.
i just wish they would do it more often and round here
I agree 100%, and yes I also think the police should be issuing the fixed penalty tickets round here. Good subject for a PACT meeting.

Neil 05-12-2009 08:30
Re: In Car Music
 
Not without proof and sound measuring equipment no.

Quote:
I’m a dad who was driving home from work in a Vauxhall Astra, listening to some music, at what I thought was an acceptable level on my standard factory fitted car radio.
I find it hard to believe a standard fit system could be loud enough to cause a problem outside the car.

Quote:
It seems like such a silly thing but I’ve appealed the ticket on principle. If there is a legal level of noise that I exceeded I will willingly pay my fine, however when the only evidence is the opinion of a police officer, I feel by paying it I could be setting a precedent for laws to be made up as and when the police suit. I’m still totally baffled and feel like this whole situation is unfair and unjust.
I agree with this point completely. What next a ticket for excess flatulence because the Police Officer thought it was too smelly?


Now if we are talking about very loud music in cars that is different. I do think it can effect you in a may that could make driving unsafe. You can't hear or feel the engine revs which can make setting off from a junction feel different for example.

If the Police are going to issue a ticket for excessive noise then there should be a legal measurable limit outside the vehicle. This should apply for all the vehicles noise like its exhaust for example.
This is what they do with tinted windows, they measure the light permissibility through the front side and windscreen and if below the legal limit you get a ticket and possible a prohibition to drive the vehicle.

vera 05-12-2009 08:51
Re: In Car Music
 
I think it was correct to fine the driver for playing music too loud. It can be very annoying. I think that others may not like the music i play, e.g opera, so i keep it too a level that only i can hear.

cashman 05-12-2009 08:59
Re: In Car Music
 
i think it was wrong............... not only fine the thoughtless pigs, smash their radios up as well.

park381 05-12-2009 09:05
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 767549)
Not without proof and sound measuring equipment no.



I find it hard to believe a standard fit system could be loud enough to cause a problem outside the car.



I agree with this point completely. What next a ticket for excess flatulence because the Police Officer thought it was too smelly?


Now if we are talking about very loud music in cars that is different. I do think it can effect you in a may that could make driving unsafe. You can't hear or feel the engine revs which can make setting off from a junction feel different for example.

If the Police are going to issue a ticket for excessive noise then there should be a legal measurable limit outside the vehicle. This should apply for all the vehicles noise like its exhaust for example.
This is what they do with tinted windows, they measure the light permissibility through the front side and windscreen and if below the legal limit you get a ticket and possible a prohibition to drive the vehicle.
I have a good sound level meter, I will carry that round with me, or better still lets get the environmental health people out with their noise meters.
Have you never stopped next to a car at trafic lights and had your car vibrate because of the noise from the vehicle next to you.
Why should I listen to another persons music, this is no different than a noisy neighbour who plays music loud.

Neil 05-12-2009 09:51
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by park381 (Post 767562)
Why should I listen to another persons music, this is no different than a noisy neighbour who plays music loud.
That is like saying why should I have to walk down the street listening to people swearing or smell someone's cigarette or bad body odour or look at someone offence curtains?

I think it comes down to it being the opinion of the Police Officer concerned. It should have been measurable like 10% over the speed limit is etc

accyman 05-12-2009 09:55
Re: In Car Music
 
bloody disgusting its not as though hes one of tehse idiots with a boom box and im pretty sure there plenty of other more serious crimes they could be preventing at 10pm at night,also i find it very parculiar that a copper cant do a damn thing about noisey neighbours who play louder music night after night yet canpull up a car who may inconvinience someone for a few seconds as he drives by.I woulda ripped up teh ticket and told teh cop to prove my music was too loud because even the council have to have recordings of your noise and teh decibell level to preosecute you or is this yet another case of found guilty without proof


if this is how things are going to be im going to start ringing 999 when these polotions drive around shouting out of megaphones from their vehicles to vote for them,soem people work shifts ya know

Studio25 05-12-2009 11:24
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 767549)
...I find it hard to believe a standard fit system could be loud enough to cause a problem outside the car.
The radio in my old Ford can produce enough noise that I can't hear the engine or anything going on outside the car, and that's a factory fit...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 767549)
Now if we are talking about very loud music in cars that is different. I do think it can effect you in a may that could make driving unsafe. You can't hear or feel the engine revs which can make setting off from a junction feel different for example.
Maybe, but that doesn't really matter - they are just knackering their own clutch. The bigger problem is being able to hear ambient noise from outside the car. I was driving through Simonstone about three weeks ago and could hear the dull thud coming from the beemer behind me. I could hear a siren, and when I saw the blue lights behind me I slowed to let it pass - the beemer driver tried to overtake me at the same time the ambulance did.

He realised just in time because the oncoming traffic saw what was happening and swerved to avoid the ambulance. Then, the idiot tried to pass me once the ambulance had gone!

K.S.H 05-12-2009 11:36
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 767549)
I find it hard to believe a standard fit system could be loud enough to cause a problem outside the car.
Think again, get in a Mazda 3 with a 6 speaker Bose system in it :eek:
Standard fit

park381 05-12-2009 11:52
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Studio25 (Post 767583)
Maybe, but that doesn't really matter - they are just knackering their own clutch. The bigger problem is being able to hear ambient noise from outside the car. I was driving through Simonstone about three weeks ago and could hear the dull thud coming from the beemer behind me. I could hear a siren, and when I saw the blue lights behind me I slowed to let it pass - the beemer driver tried to overtake me at the same time the ambulance did.

He realised just in time because the oncoming traffic saw what was happening and swerved to avoid the ambulance. Then, the idiot tried to pass me once the ambulance had gone!
Should have got registration number and reported the idiot.

Neil 05-12-2009 12:16
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 767584)
Think again, get in a Mazda 3 with a 6 speaker Bose system in it :eek:
Standard fit
He was in an Astra

Neil 05-12-2009 12:17
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Studio25 (Post 767583)
I was driving through Simonstone about three weeks ago and could hear the dull thud coming from the beemer behind me. I could hear a siren, and when I saw the blue lights behind me I slowed to let it pass - the beemer driver tried to overtake me at the same time the ambulance did.

He realised just in time because the oncoming traffic saw what was happening and swerved to avoid the ambulance. Then, the idiot tried to pass me once the ambulance had gone!
That was nothing to do with listening to music, he was just an idiot.

Neil 05-12-2009 12:18
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by park381 (Post 767589)
Should have got registration number and reported the idiot.
Why? The Police are too busy listening to other people's music to worry about bad driving. :rolleyes::D

park381 05-12-2009 12:33
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 767592)
Why? The Police are too busy listening to other people's music to worry about bad driving. :rolleyes::D
Why are Police cars not fitted with radio's as standard. :theband:

MargaretR 05-12-2009 12:51
Re: In Car Music
 
Silence is not a space waiting to be filled.
It is peacefully wonderful to experience - try it sometime.

Neil 05-12-2009 12:54
Re: In Car Music
 
Don't give up your day job

MargaretR 05-12-2009 12:59
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 767604)
Don't give up your day job
I did, and have never regretted it:D

park381 05-12-2009 13:01
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 767604)
Don't give up your day job
Hey if that was intended for me, I don't intend to. It took me a long time to get this job, pays not bad either :D

Neil 05-12-2009 13:04
Re: In Car Music
 
But the next job for you both is worm food :eek::rolleyes::D

park381 05-12-2009 13:06
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 767602)
Silence is not a space waiting to be filled.
It is peacefully wonderful to experience - try it sometime.

Margaret, the youth of today are not aware of that fact, the radio's of today don't seem to have an "off" switch.

accyman 05-12-2009 13:07
Re: In Car Music
 
Maybe the copper simply didnt like the killers,not only am i shocked at the police even bothering a motorist for playing music but also at the amount of moning minnies agreeing with the coppers actions because once in a while they hear the faint noise of music from a passing car.Just wait until you have a boy racer with boom box and 8 speakers sat outside your house in his corsa playing music you will have somat to moan about then :rolleyes:

the argument that you cant drive properly if your musics loud preventing you from hearing surrounding noise is bollocks or should deaf people not be allowed to drive or those hard of hearing.

Anyway loud music keeps me awake at the wheel especialy the killers they rock :mosher:

now im off to check teh decibel levels of my farts before i get nicked for doingthat in my car as well

park381 05-12-2009 13:09
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 767609)
But the next job for you both is worm food :eek::rolleyes::D
One never knows, it may happen to you sooner than you think ;)

MargaretR 05-12-2009 13:09
Re: In Car Music
 
When you listen to music whilst doing something (eg driving) you are just using it as a distraction from doing something you would prefer not to be doing.

accyman 05-12-2009 13:16
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 767613)
When you listen to music whilst doing something (eg driving) you are just using it as a distraction from doing something you would prefer not to be doing.
i put music on when i get a lady friend around and trust me im definatly doing somthing i want to :p

Neil 05-12-2009 13:17
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 767613)
When you listen to music whilst doing something (eg driving) you are just using it as a distraction from doing something you would prefer not to be doing.

What a load of bull. I listen to music simply because I like listening to music. I often drive to work without the radio on when I don't want to listen to it, or when I am chatting with someone on the phone.

MargaretR 05-12-2009 13:17
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by accyman (Post 767614)
i put music on when i get a lady friend around and trust me im definatly doing somthing i want to :p
So you admit that she needs to be distracted in order to participate - sad;)

accyman 05-12-2009 13:21
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 767616)
So you admit that she needs to be distracted in order to participate - sad;)
music is cheaper than rohypnol :)

***Mr D*** 05-12-2009 13:32
Re: In Car Music
 
What a load of rubbish, He should not be fined at all, a simple please turn it down would of been fine IMO, its not like he was stationary outside somebodies house.

Was a complaint made by a member of the public?

Im sure 95% of Subaru Imprezza Exausts make more noise than his music was.:rolleyes:

park381 05-12-2009 13:38
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by accyman (Post 767611)
Maybe the copper simply didnt like the killers,not only am i shocked at the police even bothering a motorist for playing music but also at the amount of moning minnies agreeing with the coppers actions because once in a while they hear the faint noise of music from a passing car.Just wait until you have a boy racer with boom box and 8 speakers sat outside your house in his corsa playing music you will have somat to moan about then :rolleyes:
No different than your next door neighbour playing his/her records to loud
Quote:
the argument that you cant drive properly if your musics loud preventing you from hearing surrounding noise is bollocks or should deaf people not be allowed to drive or those hard of hearing.
That's why emergency vehicles are fitted with "flashing lights" as well as sirens
Quote:
Anyway loud music keeps me awake at the wheel especialy the killers they rock :mosher:

now im off to check teh decibel levels of my farts before i get nicked for doingthat in my car as well
mind it's not a wet one ;)

accyman 05-12-2009 14:41
Re: In Car Music
 
constant loud music from a neighbour is a lot different than a factory fitted car stereo been used passing you house it is simply no where near teh same and as somone who has suffered annoying neighbours playing loud music at all hours i can assure you that a car passing by with music turned up is no where near in teh same league and as for your blue light argument unless blue flashing lights are soley for deaf drivers and not to be seen by anyone else it dosnt matter how loud your music is or what you can and cant hear unless you are blind in which case you wouldnt be behind the wheel of a car :)

unless guide dogs are more extensivly trained these days :)


the police officer shoudl be arrested and charged with wasting police time and be ordered to give the driver a hand written appology for interupting his day

MargaretR 05-12-2009 14:55
Re: In Car Music
 
Any noise that you don't want to hear can be described a nuisance - it intrudes on your thoughts and is pollution.

You should show respect for others by personalising your listening with headphones. One man's music is another man's intrusive noise.

Keep your music to yourself unless it is a collective gathering for the purpose of listening attended by people who have opted to attend and listen.

accyman 05-12-2009 14:58
Re: In Car Music
 
i listen to live recordings so technically i am amongst thousands:D

park381 05-12-2009 15:49
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by accyman (Post 767636)
constant loud music from a neighbour is a lot different than a factory fitted car stereo been used passing you house it is simply no where near teh same and as somone who has suffered annoying neighbours playing loud music at all hours i can assure you that a car passing by with music turned up is no where near in teh same league and as for your blue light argument unless blue flashing lights are soley for deaf drivers and not to be seen by anyone else it dosnt matter how loud your music is or what you can and cant hear unless you are blind in which case you wouldnt be behind the wheel of a car :)

unless guide dogs are more extensivly trained these days :)


the police officer shoudl be arrested and charged with wasting police time and be ordered to give the driver a hand written appology for interupting his day
A typical manufacturer fitted car stereo systems can produce a sound level of up to 110dB, where stereo systems have been modified the noise level is greater.

If you were exposed to a sound level of 80/85dB at work your employer would by law need to provide you with ear protection, if he did not comply you would be complaining to the union or HSE rep plus you would go deaf. So why should we have to listen to your car stereo when you drive past us, we are not provided with ear protection.

I applaud the police officer and wish more would follow this officers lead and issue fixed penalty fines for cars that play music so loud it sounds like a chain saw being used.

As you will see from the link an ambulance siren generates 120dB if you were subject to that level of noise on a regular basis you would need a hearing aid because you would be deaf.

Noise and Hearing Loss Prevention - What's New - NIOSH Topic Page

Neil 05-12-2009 15:56
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 767619)
Im sure 95% of Subaru Imprezza Exausts make more noise than his music was.:rolleyes:
Is there a noise limit on exhausts? There should be because unlike the music you can't turn them down.

accyman 05-12-2009 16:10
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by park381 (Post 767664)
If you were exposed to a sound level of 80/85dB at work your employer would by law need to provide you with ear protection, if he did not comply you would be complaining to the union or HSE rep plus you would go deaf. So why should we have to listen to your car stereo when you drive past us, we are not provided with ear protection.
you are talking utter bollocks and you know it, by the time the noise has gotten through the car windows the abiant surrounding noise and your windows the noise is minimal from a standard car stereo, your probably one of the sort of people that would scream the may get cancer because you were down wind of somone smoking a cigarette 5 miles away

passing cars making you deaf , get a grip man :rolleyes:

park381 05-12-2009 16:38
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by accyman (Post 767679)
you are talking utter bollocks and you know it, by the time the noise has gotten through the car windows the abiant surrounding noise and your windows the noise is minimal from a standard car stereo, your probably one of the sort of people that would scream the may get cancer because you were down wind of somone smoking a cigarette 5 miles away

passing cars making you deaf , get a grip man :rolleyes:
Are we talking triple glazed car windows here, the 110dB noise level from manufacturers fitted stereo systems are not my figures,they are quoted from the RAC & RNID websites
I think it's you that is talking "utter bollocks" to quote your phrase. I will lend you a sound level meter, so that you can switch on your car stereo at full volume (if that is how you listen to it) then stand outside with the meter and record the noise level for yourself I think you would be surprised, or even better still sit in the car with the stereo on and see what level of dB reading you get. I will ignore the comment about smoking :) :cool:

park381 05-12-2009 16:54
Re: In Car Music
 
I think you should sit down and read these links
Noisy, dangerous and annoying | Auto Express News | News | Auto Express
Car Stereos (Hansard, 11 May 2004)

The second link covers the go faster cars with the big noisy exhausts.

Neil 05-12-2009 17:12
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by park381 (Post 767688)
Are we talking triple glazed car windows here, the 110dB noise level from manufacturers fitted stereo systems are not my figures,they are quoted from the RAC & RNID websites
I think it's you that is talking "utter bollocks" to quote your phrase. I will lend you a sound level meter, so that you can switch on your car stereo at full volume (if that is how you listen to it) then stand outside with the meter and record the noise level for yourself I think you would be surprised, or even better still sit in the car with the stereo on and see what level of dB reading you get. I will ignore the comment about smoking :) :cool:
I don't believe the 110dB from a standard system. I can manage 112dB and mine is nothing like standard. Get you meter out and you can test it if you like.

park381 05-12-2009 17:43
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 767695)
I don't believe the 110dB from a standard system. I can manage 112dB and mine is nothing like standard. Get you meter out and you can test it if you like.
The link is in the post above, not my figures but the RAC's here's the link again
Noisy, dangerous and annoying | Auto Express News | News | Auto Express
It would be interesting to check yours at full blast (is that the term) but I have a pressing appointment at BGH next week. :eek:

Neil 05-12-2009 18:22
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by park381 (Post 767715)
The link is in the post above, not my figures but the RAC's here's the link again
Noisy, dangerous and annoying | Auto Express News | News | Auto Express
It would be interesting to check yours at full blast (is that the term) but I have a pressing appointment at BGH next week. :eek:
I read it and it says

Quote:
listening to sounds over 85dB for several hours a day can expect to develop hearing loss - and many car stereos dish out 110dB

it does not say standard fit anywhere in that. You other link does not mention levels. It does say this though

Quote:
Regulation 97 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 prohibits the use of a vehicle emitting avoidable excessive noise.
So why are there so many cars with big fat noisy exhausts?

katex 05-12-2009 18:27
Re: In Car Music
 
Well I, for one, am hopeful this guy loses his appeal in court. Would set a precedence for everyone that thumps out their music too loudly much to everyone’s annoyance.

For the police officer to hear it from his car, was obviously too high a level and a FPN well deserved. Just have to trust the police at times that this was so.

Let’s face it Neil and Accyman .. you two would be the first to be annoyed at his inconsideration .. I am being polite using the word ‘annoyance’ You have always something to say on the manners and behaviour of others … particularly if it may be disturbing your family.

Perhaps he does this every night on his return home from his shift ?

Get the impression he is a ‘right clever Richard’

***Mr D*** 05-12-2009 18:35
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 767669)
Is there a noise limit on exhausts? There should be because unlike the music you can't turn them down.
Yes I believe there is but not on standard manufacture systems.

A car stationary, parked up is a lot different to a car driving along a road a standard system will be loud if cranked right up but no where near as loud as none standard equipment. (110db on standard maybe but what percent of cars would be this loud 5-10%?

If no complaint was made then there was no need to give him a ticket/fine a simple polite gester would of been good enough (IMO). If the guy knew his rights and how to apply them he wouldnt of got fined, he apears to be arguing his case in court, again if he plays it right and knows what he is doing that fine will dissapear.

Remember the police, police by concent of the governed.

What about Ice Cream Vans, they come round my way after 9pm on school days in the summer? also that police helecopter can generate some good noice at way past 10pm.:rolleyes:

***Mr D*** 05-12-2009 18:39
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 767732)
Well I, for one, am hopeful this guy loses his appeal in court. Would set a precedence for everyone that thumps out their music too loudly much to everyone’s annoyance.
I hope he wins if no comlaint was made then it would apear it was just the coppers annoyance.

Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 767732)
For the police officer to hear it from his car, was obviously too high a level and a FPN well deserved. Just have to trust the police at times that this was so.
How do we know that he could hear it from his car? Trust the police, mmm I prefair evidence or at least a witness/complaint.:D

cashman 05-12-2009 18:39
Re: In Car Music
 
we have one that comes home from work very early hours of morning = window down whatever weather, parks invariably under our bedroom window - sits fer a few mins if a record the obnoxious git likes has not ended, don't wake me up, that would take W.W.3, always wakes the boss, Tried asking nicely, tried note through door, all to no avail, tried grabbing his throat, magic, don't do it no more.

katex 05-12-2009 18:45
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 767738)
I hope he wins if no comlaint was made then it would apear it was just the coppers annoyance.


.:D
I don't know what guidance they have Mr. D ... but they are allowed to issue Fixed Penalty Notices for this without the public's complaint. Will be interesting, however, to see the outcome. Just that if he wins ... then where does it go from there ?

***Mr D*** 05-12-2009 18:54
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 767740)
I don't know what guidance they have Mr. D ... but they are allowed to issue Fixed Penalty Notices for this without the public's complaint. Will be interesting, however, to see the outcome. Just that if he wins ... then where does it go from there ?
Yes they can issue ticket without a complaint.

But they police by concent of the governed.;)

The Police What they can and can't do THE BASIC TRUTH!! | www.tpuc.org

park381 05-12-2009 18:55
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 767731)
I read it and it says



it does not say standard fit anywhere in that. You other link does not mention levels. It does say this though

[url="http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/people/ms-caroline-flint"]

So why are there so many cars with big fat noisy exhausts?
OK a miss quote shall we say typical car stereo produces 110dB

Regulation 97 also covers the noisy car stereo as well as the big fat exhausts

Neil 05-12-2009 19:06
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 767735)
What about Ice Cream Vans, they come round my way after 9pm on school days in the summer? also that police helecopter can generate some good noice at way past 10pm.:rolleyes:
What about when i am on nights and everyone is being noisy.

Neil 05-12-2009 19:07
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by park381 (Post 767745)
OK a miss quote shall we say typical car stereo produces 110dB
No we shall not. Get you meter out and check yours. I will be surprised if you get to 110dB without distortion making it un listen-able

SPUGGIE J 05-12-2009 19:10
Re: In Car Music
 
Better off with music that with a good sub woofer in the boot bounces the car along thus saving fuel and the planet. :p

Neil 05-12-2009 20:17
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 767752)
Better off with music that with a good sub woofer in the boot bounces the car along thus saving fuel and the planet. :p
lol, can't go too loud for long as it hurts :D:D

SPUGGIE J 05-12-2009 20:32
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 767765)
lol, can't go too loud for long as it hurts :D:D

What your ears bum or both? Ear plugs and an inflatable cushion will help. :D

Neil 05-12-2009 20:34
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 767773)
What your ears bum or both? Ear plugs and an inflatable cushion will help. :D
Whole body :D

SPUGGIE J 05-12-2009 20:37
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 767777)
Whole body :D
You saying you are getting too old for it then all this music nice in loud in the car?

park381 06-12-2009 08:12
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 767750)
No we shall not. Get you meter out and check yours. I will be surprised if you get to 110dB without distortion making it un listen-able
Ok I will do just that providing I can find a remote and isolated area so as not to annoy anyone, and provided I can find the "ear plugs"

This may also make interesting reading

RAC Foundation - BOOM BOOM – SHAKE THE ROOM

RAC Foundation - The Sound and the Fury?

MargaretR 06-12-2009 08:16
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 767765)
lol, can't go too loud for long as it hurts :D:D
Vibrating your internal organs is not recommended:rolleyes:

SPUGGIE J 06-12-2009 09:52
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 767902)
Vibrating your internal organs is not recommended:rolleyes:

Did think of an answer to that but kept my fingers away from the keyboard till i didnt want to answer it. :D

Must be a first for me.:eek:

Benipete 06-12-2009 10:53
Re: In Car Music
 
I think the answer is in the question "In Car Music"That is what they were intended for and not to be used as a public address system.

£30 is, in my opinion not enough of a deterrent - Should have been sat in an enclosed space and made to listen to several hours of Des o' Conner.:hehetable

cashman 06-12-2009 10:58
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 767929)
I think the answer is in the question "In Car Music"That is what they were intended for and not to be used as a public address system.

£30 is, in my opinion not enough of a deterrent - Should have been sat in an enclosed space and made to listen to several hours of Des o' Conner.:hehetable
ya got a real "Cruel Streak" in ya pete.:eek:

park381 06-12-2009 11:29
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 767750)
No we shall not. Get you meter out and check yours. I will be surprised if you get to 110dB without distortion making it un listen-able
Here we go, what do they say "the proof of the pudding is in the eating"
Location - Peel Retail Centre (Whitebirk) far end of car park adjacent to canal.(not wanting to subject anyone to the noise)
Car - Peugeot 206sw estate reg. 2005
Radio/CD unit - Clarian assumed fitted as standard at time of manufacture.
Sound level meter - model 332 CE iec 651 type II calibrated 94dB A/C weighting with a maximum hold function.
1. Radio smooth - record - my sweet lord - max reading 119dB
2. CD jean michel jarre - oxygene tk 2 - max reading 111.7dB
3. CD n diamond - beautiful noise -max reading 114.5dB
The "bass" was set at "0" for the whole of the test.
Volume turned up to full.
In all cases the average noise level was between 106.8dB/110dB depending on the record. there was no distortion at all just the car vibrating from the noise.
I think this proves the point, since the car is 4 years old, am sure that younger cars are fitted with better sound equipment.
If your employer made you work for 8 hours a day under those conditions and did not provide you with ear protection you would be screaming at the union and your health and safety rep. So why not protect your hearing and turn the music down :theband:

Neil 06-12-2009 14:41
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by park381 (Post 767941)
Here we go, what do they say "the proof of the pudding is in the eating"
Location - Peel Retail Centre (Whitebirk) far end of car park adjacent to canal.(not wanting to subject anyone to the noise)
Car - Peugeot 206sw estate reg. 2005
Radio/CD unit - Clarian assumed fitted as standard at time of manufacture.
Sound level meter - model 332 CE iec 651 type II calibrated 94dB A/C weighting with a maximum hold function.
1. Radio smooth - record - my sweet lord - max reading 119dB
2. CD jean michel jarre - oxygene tk 2 - max reading 111.7dB
3. CD n diamond - beautiful noise -max reading 114.5dB
The "bass" was set at "0" for the whole of the test.
Volume turned up to full.
In all cases the average noise level was between 106.8dB/110dB depending on the record. there was no distortion at all just the car vibrating from the noise.
I think this proves the point, since the car is 4 years old, am sure that younger cars are fitted with better sound equipment.
If your employer made you work for 8 hours a day under those conditions and did not provide you with ear protection you would be screaming at the union and your health and safety rep. So why not protect your hearing and turn the music down :theband:
I will bring my car round and you can test if for me.

park381 06-12-2009 15:37
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 767963)
I will bring my car round and you can test if for me.
What, and have my neighbours complain when you turn up the sound.

:hehetable:hehetable

What was that question on a car insurance form - Has the vehicle been modified in any way??? :rolleyes:

AngleIron 06-12-2009 15:55
Re: In Car Music
 
i totally agree withmost people....he should have been arrested on the spot, locked up and the key thrown away!!
and the same goes for anyone else that listens to THE KILLERS.......THERE SH*TE!!!!!!!!!!
no... on a more serious note he could have been distracted by the music level and mown a few kids down....keep levels respectable

Neil 06-12-2009 16:00
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by park381 (Post 767975)
What, and have my neighbours complain when you turn up the sound.

:hehetable:hehetable

What was that question on a car insurance form - Has the vehicle been modified in any way??? :rolleyes:
it is reported to them along with the 7 seat install :D

***Mr D*** 06-12-2009 16:27
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by park381 (Post 767975)
What was that question on a car insurance form - Has the vehicle been modified in any way??? :rolleyes:
Some insurers would class a uprated sterio as a modification and maybe apply an additional cost, I doubt it would invalidate any policy, most just put a standard replacement warranty on.

The guy the thred is about had a standard stereo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AngleIron (Post 767978)
no... on a more serious note he could have been distracted by the music level and mown a few kids down....keep levels respectable
It was 10pm so kids should be at home in bed.:)

I find music isnt much a distraction when driving however loud, although it can influence driving style.

The main thing is this is more silly laws/statutes (IMO) when does it stop, soon you wont be able to sneeze in public as it could be to loud.:rolleyes:

park381 06-12-2009 17:03
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 767980)
it is reported to them along with the 7 seat install :D
Just what I need for a golf trip, do you hire it out ;)

park381 06-12-2009 17:06
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 767986)
Some insurers would class a uprated sterio as a modification and maybe apply an additional cost, I doubt it would invalidate any policy, most just put a standard replacement warranty on.

The guy the thred is about had a standard stereo.



It was 10pm so kids should be at home in bed.:)

I find music isnt much a distraction when driving however loud, although it can influence driving style.

The main thing is this is more silly laws/statutes (IMO) when does it stop, soon you wont be able to sneeze in public as it could be to loud.:rolleyes:
It's been in force for a good few years 1986 I think
Car Stereos (Hansard, 11 May 2004)

Neil 06-12-2009 18:51
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by park381 (Post 767992)
Just what I need for a golf trip, do you hire it out ;)
You can't turn the noise down sorry :rolleyes::D

park381 07-12-2009 06:43
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 768005)
You can't turn the noise down sorry :rolleyes::D
A hammer would do the trick, mind I have several sets of ear protectors :jimbo::jimbo:

Neil 07-12-2009 11:09
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by park381 (Post 768083)
I have several sets of ear protectors :jimbo::jimbo:
Why how many ears do you have?

park381 07-12-2009 11:42
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 768138)
Why how many ears do you have?
Your motor 7 seats, seven sets ear protection, you wana borrow them

:theband::theband:

Ossywarrior 13-12-2009 18:41
Re: In Car Music
 
to be fair if its late at night and disturbing people then yeah they should but its a slippery slope... this time its a ticket for playing music late at night, tomorrow it will be for playing slade before xmas day :D

jaysay 14-12-2009 09:51
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ossywarrior (Post 769621)
to be fair if its late at night and disturbing people then yeah they should but its a slippery slope... this time its a ticket for playing music late at night, tomorrow it will be for playing slade before xmas day :D
That's a hanging offence:D

Neil 14-12-2009 10:03
Re: In Car Music
 

Benipete 14-12-2009 17:10
Re: In Car Music
 
No

jaysay 15-12-2009 08:37
Re: In Car Music
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 769700)
Are you turning into some kind of masochist Neil:D


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:51.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
© 2003-2013 AccringtonWeb.com