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Eric 08-12-2009 01:16

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Ok, Copenhagen ... I hear that the conference opened with a new piece for violin, written and performed by Nero. I do believe that global warming will increase in intensity fueled by the hot air coming out of this conference. Reminds me of a little thing from the Scottish Play: this conference will be nothing more than "a tale told by an idiot/Full of sound and fury/Signifying nothing." Maybe I'm being a tad cynical; but does anyone have any confidence that anything worthwhile will come of this media circus?

cashman 08-12-2009 08:26

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think theres more chance of me being struck by lightening, will be much saying n very little doing, which is the norm fer these jaunts.:rolleyes:

Neil 08-12-2009 08:28

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 768365)
think theres more chance of me being struck by lightening, will be much saying n very little doing, which is the norm fer these jaunts.:rolleyes:


Don't forget they will come up with stupid ideas that will end up costing us all more money

jaysay 08-12-2009 08:59

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 768366)
Don't forget they will come up with stupid ideas that will end up costing us all more money

Ain't that always the case Neil:rolleyes:

Bernard Dawson 08-12-2009 09:33

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 768334)
Ok, Copenhagen ... I hear that the conference opened with a new piece for violin, written and performed by Nero. I do believe that global warming will increase in intensity fueled by the hot air coming out of this conference. Reminds me of a little thing from the Scottish Play: this conference will be nothing more than "a tale told by an idiot/Full of sound and fury/Signifying nothing." Maybe I'm being a tad cynical; but does anyone have any confidence that anything worthwhile will come of this media circus?


A lot of Countries will be taken it seriously. The country next to yours is the problem Eric.

If America goes to Copenhagen determined to drag their feet on climate change, then you would think that much will come out of Copenhagen.

Although with Obama in the White House there might just be a chance. Lets hope so anyway.

wadey 08-12-2009 09:37

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It's jobs for "the boys", remember Rio 1992 or Kyoto 1997?
The main polluters at the moment are mad scientists trailing round the World and by the way what happened to Acid Rain?

Eric 08-12-2009 18:25

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 768375)
A lot of Countries will be taken it seriously. The country next to yours is the problem Eric.

If America goes to Copenhagen determined to drag their feet on climate change, then you would think that much will come out of Copenhagen.

Although with Obama in the White House there might just be a chance. Lets hope so anyway.

And to make the problem worse, our present govt. .... effing tories ... have announced that they will go along with whatever the US does:eek: To put this in a little perspective, a recent Decima poll showed that 83% of Canadians disagree with this.:mosher:

steeljack 09-12-2009 02:35

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its interesting that 35 years ago the scientific community were bleating on about the coming ice-age , wonder how much of this ju-ju science is coming out of independant labs and not Govt. funded universities.

In 1974, the National Science Board announced: "During the last 20 to 30 years, world temperature has fallen, irregularly at first but more sharply over the last decade. Judging from the record of the past interglacial ages, the present time of high temperatures should be drawing to an end…leading into the next ice age."

The Fiction Of Climate Science - Forbes.com

How can any sane person in this day and age believe anything coming out of the mouth of any politician (on both sides of the Atlantic) as the truth , everyone of them reminds of my local GP during my annual medical exam when he snaps on the rubber gloves and tells me to "relax it won't hurt".

Eric 09-12-2009 07:45

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 768623)
its interesting that 35 years ago the scientific community were bleating on about the coming ice-age , wonder how much of this ju-ju science is coming out of independant labs and not Govt. funded universities.

In 1974, the National Science Board announced: "During the last 20 to 30 years, world temperature has fallen, irregularly at first but more sharply over the last decade. Judging from the record of the past interglacial ages, the present time of high temperatures should be drawing to an end…leading into the next ice age."

The Fiction Of Climate Science - Forbes.com

How can any sane person in this day and age believe anything coming out of the mouth of any politician (on both sides of the Atlantic) as the truth , everyone of them reminds of my local GP during my annual medical exam when he snaps on the rubber gloves and tells me to "relax it won't hurt".

That the future of our species is at the mercy of political ideology to the point where "we, the people" don't have a damn thing to say about it is really scary.

wadey 09-12-2009 08:10

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In 1976 there was the great drought and "Global Warming" wasn't mentioned now they are trying to tell us that the last ten years have been the hottest ever!!!!!!!!!
Where are they taking the temperature?

MargaretR 09-12-2009 09:26

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If you google Climategate you will realise that this whole conference is a scam to raise 'carbon tax' to finance world government.
I think that it is wonderful that there have been several spanners flung in already:D

Bernard Dawson 09-12-2009 09:27

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 768623)
its interesting that 35 years ago the scientific community were bleating on about the coming ice-age , wonder how much of this ju-ju science is coming out of independant labs and not Govt. funded universities.

In 1974, the National Science Board announced: "During the last 20 to 30 years, world temperature has fallen, irregularly at first but more sharply over the last decade. Judging from the record of the past interglacial ages, the present time of high temperatures should be drawing to an end…leading into the next ice age."

The Fiction Of Climate Science - Forbes.com

How can any sane person in this day and age believe anything coming out of the mouth of any politician (on both sides of the Atlantic) as the truth , everyone of them reminds of my local GP during my annual medical exam when he snaps on the rubber gloves and tells me to "relax it won't hurt".

It's not only politicians that are going on about climate change.There's a lot of compelling scientific evidence also for climate change.

In my view we owe it to future generations to take the warnings seriously.

cashman 09-12-2009 09:28

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Cracking link steeljack which just re-affirms my long held belief that its all "Cobblers" far as i'm concerned its just nature changes over centuries.:rolleyes:

jaysay 09-12-2009 09:42

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 768658)
Cracking link steeljack which just re-affirms my long held belief that its all "Cobblers" far as i'm concerned its just nature changes over centuries.:rolleyes:

I agree cashy now the left and right can't be wrong,:D can they :rolleyes:

MargaretR 09-12-2009 09:45

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 768656)
It's not only politicians that are going on about climate change.There's a lot of compelling scientific evidence also for climate change.

In my view we owe it to future generations to take the warnings seriously.

There is evidence that the whole Solar System is changing and reducing pollution will be like bailing out a lifeboat with a thimble.
PLANETOPHYSICAL STATE OF THE EARTH AND LIFE
Humanity has survived similar before, so there is no reason to be fearful.
Just hang on, expect the unexpected, and be ready for the roller coaster ride.:)
This is an exciting time to be alive

Bernard Dawson 09-12-2009 09:54

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 768663)
There is evidence that the whole Solar System is changing and reducing pollution will be like bailing out a lifeboat with a thimble.
PLANETOPHYSICAL STATE OF THE EARTH AND LIFE
Humanity has survived similar before, so there is no reason to be fearful.
Just hang on, expect the unexpected, and be ready for the roller coaster ride.:)
This is an exciting time to be alive

I'm not so much fearful for myself Margaret. It's more the generations to come. In my view this generation has a duty of care when comes to the planet.

MargaretR 09-12-2009 10:03

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 768665)
I'm not so much fearful for myself Margaret. It's more the generations to come. In my view this generation has a duty of care when comes to the planet.

When the Earth changes are beyond control, it is best that the young generation is
'inventive, adaptive and resourceful'.

Our education policies appear to foster conformity - an ideal better suited to the hive mentality

jaysay 09-12-2009 10:04

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 768665)
I'm not so much fearful for myself Margaret. It's more the generations to come. In my view this generation has a duty of care when comes to the planet.

There's none so blind as those who refuse to see Bernard, you'll be telling us next you have little green men round for Sunday Tea next:rolleyes:

Eric 09-12-2009 18:55

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 768665)
I'm not so much fearful for myself Margaret. It's more the generations to come. In my view this generation has a duty of care when comes to the planet.

Agree with you on this .... by the way, this is the philosophical and spiritual viewpoint held by our First Nations. It's a different viewpoint from the "rape and pillage of the Earth" policy that the western Christian cultures have followed since the late fifteenth century, perhaps earlier.

webglynne 09-12-2009 19:15

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Is it not appalling that none of them consider holding so many conferences with so many flights to and fro is adding to this if what they claim is right?

Eric 09-12-2009 19:23

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Originally Posted by webglynne (Post 768753)
Is it not appalling that none of them consider holding so many conferences with so many flights to and fro is adding to this if what they claim is right?

That's politicians for you ... anything for a free holiday at taxpayers' expense.:rolleyes: If they want to know if global warming is for real or not, they could ask the Inuit.

Wynonie Harris 10-12-2009 07:50

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Delegates ferried around the city in a fleet of 1,200 limousines (many driven hundreds of miles from Germany and Sweden to meet demand)...150 private jets to bring delegates to and from the conference...a carbon footprint of over 40,000 tons.

A bunch of total hypocrites - the lot of 'em. :mad:

jaysay 10-12-2009 08:52

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 768834)
Delegates ferried around the city in a fleet of 1,200 limousines (many driven hundreds of miles from Germany and Sweden to meet demand)...150 private jets to bring delegates to and from the conference...a carbon footprint of over 40,000 tons.

A bunch of total hypocrites - the lot of 'em. :mad:

Well you know the translation of political summit Wynonie, its Jolly:rolleyes:


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