Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 788847)

I've been off line for two days and Mancie has made a storm in a tea cup over a misplaced decimal point, for Christ's sake don't go into politics full time Mancie you'll be contender for Prime Minister:D:D:p

Originally Posted by TheLeadersOffice HBC (Post 691676)

In 2008/09, the Council's budget was £15,097. This year it will be £15,427. This is an increase in our spend of only 2.2%. The reason why our precept is to increase by 4.95% is because Government funding to the Council has only been increased by 1.5% and the rest of the money has to be found from the local taxpayer. If the Government had given us the amount it has claimed in the national press, it would have been possible to set a zero percent increase this year in Hyndburn.

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These are the facts, you can now argue over them as much as you wish but it won't alter the figures.

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 788814)

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Gollywogs, blackboards, Christmas .

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 788861)

Perhaps sloppy handling of figures is a party issue.

Your little chum struggled with commas and decimal points, when he made this post, which changed millions into thousands.


http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/n...reply&p=691676

The Devil is in the detail.

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 788903)

As well as the bigot that tries to stir things by playing on peoples, (often), unwarranted fears by making broad claims against a different group within society. I also dislike the people that go to the other extreme and in their simplistic view place a minority group on a pedestal thinking that making them a 'special case', will make 'these people' feel better.

Both these groups, are living within their own form of security bubble and are of no threat to the majority of society, but they are after all only a minor irritation.

What I really dislike is the type of people that are working for their own personal agenda's and manipulate the first two groups into an open disagreement so as to be able to take advantage of the situation resulting in an advancement of their own personal aims'.

This type of person is much, much rarer than those of the the first two groups however they are more likely to succeed because somehow although they offer nothing of real advantage to either of the first two groups they convince people they have only the best interest of others at heart.

These are the people that make life interesting and when they offer you their hand in friendship grasp it wholeheartedly they are going to take you on a ride of your life time but, when they give you your hand back count your fingers you may find they have kept the best digit for themselves!
:)

Originally Posted by blazey (Post 789166)

White boards are referred to as 'wipe boards' last I heard.

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 789425)

those who believe there is some sort of PC brigade are insecure idiots.

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 789425)

last time I heard a blackboard was a blackboard.. Christmas was Christmas.. a black man is a black man and a white man is a white man.. those who believe there is some sort of PC brigade are insecure idiots....black or white.

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 789425)

.. those who believe there is some sort of PC brigade are insecure idiots.....

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 789617)

If you'll excuse me saying so, that's perhaps a bit of a closed-mind attitude. No one is trying to say that the PC Brigade are an actual band of people, it's an overall term for the ludicrous regulations and ideas that various groups come up with to say that names for innocuous things we've all grown up with are suddenly racist or prejudiced against certain people.

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 788855)

People who seem obsessed with not labelling groups in society for fear of being 'racist' or 'bigoted' when it is virtually impossible to have a reasoned debate about many topics without doing so.

Farmers generally work in rural areas so sooner or later the term 'rural area' is going to crop up in a debate over a rural issue, say foot and mouth disease. By association, so is a variation on the term 'rural folk' which isn't derogatory but separates the needs and views of those particular residents from someone who lives on the sixth floor of a tenement block in London. Decisions which affect farmers have been made by people who are not necessarily from that background and have not helped the industry but have been seen as the 'correct' thing to do. Again, I cite the rules on chemicals which have been used safely for years and yet are now 'dangerous' without the right certificate and have seen their prices rise astronomically, making them prohibitively expensive for people who need them to make a living. There is a huge amount of common sense in the algricultural and horticultural community which doesn't need new regulations to make things 'safe'.

Arguing the toss over terminology and wasting money on think tanks and committees to make sure that certain words could not be misconstrued by a small but vocal minority of the easily-offended is not the way forward.

The country is obsessed with pandering to minority groups, many of whom are not kicking up a fuss in the first place. I believe this was the point that Stumped raised in post #58.

I'll just put this to the forum as the epitome of PC Brigade conundrums: there is a Black Police Officer's Association and yet what would the reaction be if someone was to try and set up a White one? Is there a real subjective difference? Why is one racist and the other not?

If we all just got on with identifying and preventing actual real-life problems and fixing them in the simplest way rather than worrying over problems which don't exist we would probably have a better society.

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 787954)

The Tories have published a document claiming that 54% of teenage girls are pregnant before they turn 18, but the real figure is 5.4% :D
BBC News - Tories criticised over teenage pregnancy figure error

.. it's laughable but worrying to know that the so called well educated Eton tory hierachy actually believed the figure was 54%.. these idiots want to run the economy, I hope they brush up on thier maths before they start making the massive cuts.. scary! :eek:

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 789766)

Bang on, Ken. One only has to refer to muslims in whatever vein and you are accused of being bigotted, racist or being tied to some obscure political agenda which apparently upsets all those who would have you hung, drawn and quartered for even thinking something that they disagree with.

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 789617)

If you'll excuse me saying so, that's perhaps a bit of a closed-mind attitude. No one is trying to say that the PC Brigade are an actual band of people, it's an overall term for the ludicrous regulations and ideas that various groups come up with to say that names for innocuous things we've all grown up with are suddenly racist or prejudiced against certain people.