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cashman 13-09-2010 10:40

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 844575)
Common sense cashy, I've never met a socialist with sense, except thee:D

Ex-Socalist mate, i learned years ago they all suck,:( i'm in the "Sod Em All Brigade" now.;)

jaysay 13-09-2010 10:41

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 844572)
The problem is that you seem to take everything I say as being an attack on the Conservatives. What I actually have a go at more often than not is a lack of common sense.

My personal view is that, regardless of political persuasion, we should look after ourselves first. Not everyone within the Labour party will agree with me but I'm fortunate to be part of a group of people who are allowed different viewpoints without risk of a serious dressing down. It doesn't make any sense to keep handing out cash when the natives are being told to save it due to things being a bit tight at the moment, I don't care who is in government.

Governments evolve however, and what may be good practice today probably won't be in a few years time. What disappoints me is that we have a government which still hasn't realised yet that ringfencing overseas aid is not that important to the people who actually live here.

Ken, Ken, Ken I totally agree, but the games a boggy mate, of course we should look after our own, of course there are lots of cases were we could spend that money, but it WILL NEVER HAPPEN, any shade of government daren't even think about cutting overseas aid, you know all the countries who wanted free of British rule and have never been away with the begging bowl since :(

jaysay 13-09-2010 10:43

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 844576)
Ex-Socalist mate, i learned years ago they all suck,:( i'm in the "Sod Em All Brigade" now.;)

We'll have to form a new party cashy the SOD UM ALL ALLIANCE seems about reght:D :hehetable

Wynonie Harris 13-09-2010 10:43

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 844572)
Not everyone within the Labour party will agree with me

Name me one person at either national or local councillor level who does.

jaysay 13-09-2010 10:47

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 844579)
Name me one person at either national or local councillor level who does.

lol

Ken Moss 13-09-2010 11:24

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 844579)
Name me one person at either national or local councillor level who does.

Steve, I'm far too busy at a local level to really worry about national politics....

Wynonie Harris 13-09-2010 11:33

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 844584)
Steve, I'm far too busy at a local level to really worry about national politics....

Not too busy to comment on the foreign aid budget though. I'm surprised that Bernard and Claytonender haven't attempted to purge you of your reactionary tendencies! ;)

Margaret Pilkington 13-09-2010 12:42

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 844587)
Not too busy to comment on the foreign aid budget though. I'm surprised that Bernard and Claytonender haven't attempted to purge you of your reactionary tendencies! ;)

Can you do that with Ex-Lax?

Wynonie Harris 13-09-2010 13:06

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 844592)
Can you do that with Ex-Lax?

Margaret, I hope you're not implying that our Ken is full of a certain substance? :D ;)

Margaret Pilkington 13-09-2010 13:24

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Would I ?????:)

No of course not.....it is just that purging means different things to different people......Califig, Ex-lax, brimstone and treacle....they are what purging means to me.:)

cashman 13-09-2010 13:46

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 844578)
We'll have to form a new party cashy the SOD UM ALL ALLIANCE seems about reght:D :hehetable

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 844584)
Steve, I'm far too busy at a local level to really worry about national politics....

Fair enough, but what about local?:D

Ken Moss 13-09-2010 13:52

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 844587)
Not too busy to comment on the foreign aid budget though. I'm surprised that Bernard and Claytonender haven't attempted to purge you of your reactionary tendencies! ;)

I know. You should see our meetings. Miles Parkinson is a tyrant, getting into discussions with different views, hearing people out, making cups of tea. One time he even let me make a point.

Those ruthless Labour group meetings will soon find me out for the rebel I really am.

Wynonie Harris 13-09-2010 14:37

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 844602)
I know. You should see our meetings. Miles Parkinson is a tyrant, getting into discussions with different views, hearing people out, making cups of tea. One time he even let me make a point.

Those ruthless Labour group meetings will soon find me out for the rebel I really am.

OK, well at the next meeting tell 'em that you think the overseas aid budget should be abolished and see what the reaction is. ;)

Ken Moss 13-09-2010 14:40

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 844606)
OK, well at the next meeting tell 'em that you think the overseas aid budget should be abolished and see what the reaction is. ;)

Big difference between 'abolished' and 'ringfenced'.

£8bn is a lot of money....

Wynonie Harris 13-09-2010 14:53

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 844607)
Big difference between 'abolished' and 'ringfenced'.

£8bn is a lot of money....

With statements like "look after your own first" and "it doesn't make sense to keep handing out money" I naturally assumed you were against the whole idea of foreign aid. However, even if you're just in favour of cuts and wiser spending in foreign aid rather than outright abolition (which I would agree with, pinko liberal leftie that I am), put the idea to your comrades and see what reaction you get. And I would put it to you again, find me one Labour politician anywhere who has suggested cutting foreign aid.


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