Re: Are these people a special case
 

Would you not class this as 'nit-picking', and veering from the thread's subject, or is it not applicable when it's being done by you.

If you understood what he said, it might have been more helpful, and still on topic, if you'd explained it for those of us who didn't.

;)

Re: Are these people a special case
 

I stand by this post.

After attempting, yet again, to understand what was said, either I've lost the ability to read English, or it's gobbledygook, and would welcome a simple explanation, from someone brighter than myself.

I thank you in advance, but I fear I might be missing some riveting information, if I miss out on what might be a very salient point.

Re: Are these people a special case
 

In order to lighten the tone
I will give knitting lessons

Re: Are these people a special case
 

See that's the trouble when you appoint toadies, creeps, and sycophants, to unelected postions of power.

No class.

(As your average, down-to-earth, right-wing, Alf Garnett type bigot, would say.)

Hereditary peers would always pay an underling to do the flogging for them.

Re: Are these people a special case
 

I said 'towards truer democracy'.

;)

Does the man who dictates everything you write never have a night off, and allow you the freedom to say what you truly think?

It's terrible. You should search for other, similarly oppressed drones.

:D

Re: Are these people a special case
 

an·ar·chy (http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/abreve.gifnhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/prime.gifhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/schwa.gifr-khttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/emacr.gif)n. pl. an·ar·chies 1. Absence of any form of political authority.
2. Political disorder and confusion.
3. Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose.

Well I'm afraid we can't accept you for the Anarchy in the UK tour, as your devout beliefs re:Bildenberg, and other conspiracy theories, are standard and common to many others, and therefore exempt you as an anarchist.

http://ksent.net/anarchy002.png

:mosher:

Re: Are these people a special case
 

I hope Hyndburn Homes don't send round someone to polish your taps, and check the grouting, when your bathroom's finished. Who suddenly announces he's an Anarchist, and doesn't believe housing should be either social, organised, or even funded by anything so respectably bourgeois as paying rent, and then took a big sledge hammer, and started breaking up the new lav, in an act of wanton anarchic revolution!

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Let's try to accomplish one small step at a time.

;)

:D

Re: Are these people a special case
 

I need a functioning bathroom if I am ever to get a knitting circle going ;)

Re: Are these people a special case
 

I'm not getting at you, by the way.

I have the utmost respect for those with dearly held devout beliefs, be it religion, a New World Order, or whatever.

I understand that a blind faith in something, for some, is a crutch they need to function.

:D

Re: Are these people a special case
 

Go and stick your needles in the spokes of the Queen's carriage, at the State opening of Parliament.

Sitting round making tea-cosies, hoping you might see a beheading, isn't really going to start your anarchistic revolution.

;)

Re: Are these people a special case
 

Does it? I can't think of any examples where government has been more accountable under two elected chambers. The British system with one elected chamber holding all the power, is far more accountable, as the public can throw out a government. Not that there is or should be a one size fits all solution.

I hope the paragraph is clearer now.

Re: Are these people a special case
 

Much, thank you.

Now I can clearly see that you don't have a clue.

Re: Are these people a special case
 

but can you name any name any other democracy (in what we call "the west") that has hereditary Lords changing and sometimes refusing laws imposed by an elected government... no one is born to impose laws (by the way, you would do a good job as the sheriff of Nottingham)

Re: Are these people a special case
 

Now that you mention it, we do have something similar here. We have the Canadian Senate. Senators are appointed by the Lieutennant Govenor in Council (the PM in other words). They are not elected, and they do have the same powers as your House of Lords. They are not hereditary, and they are not lords; but they do perform the same (dis)function.

Re: Are these people a special case
 

Any other? That doesn't happen in our democracy. They can amend bills to suggest alternatives. The Lords are very good at line by line scrutiny, many of the changes are accepted by the Commons. It is the elected Commons who have the ultimate say on which bills become legislation. Thus the general public know exactly who is in government, who is responsible and who to hold accountable at the ballot box with the current system.