Are these people a special case

jaysay · 12-03-2010, 09:04

'Expenses fraud' MPs and peer insist they should not face trial | Mail Online

Are these disgraced politicians a special case, should they have been allowed to stay out of the dock, and should they be dealt with at Crown Court or in house in Parliament

Benipete · 12-03-2010, 09:15

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Originally Posted by jaysay

'Expenses fraud' MPs and peer insist they should not face trial | Mail Online

Are these disgraced politicians a special case, should they have been allowed to stay out of the dock, and should they be dealt with at Crown Court or in house in Parliament

You can only blame the system.

Instead of just a little Green Book(you will get away with this)They should have an Amber Book(you may get away with this on a good day)and a little Red Book(not a hope in hell,don't do it)

Wynonie Harris · 12-03-2010, 09:20

They've been charged with offences under the Theft Act, so they should be tried in a court of law like us commoners would be if we were in the same position.

garinda · 12-03-2010, 09:37

Yes, they are a special case, and should therefore feel the full weight of the law, as an example to the citizens they governed, that stealing is wrong.

BERNADETTE · 12-03-2010, 09:39

They really do make me sick, they claimed expenses they weren't entitled to so of course they should be tried in a court of law. I am a member of a couple of carers sites and god forbid any of them earn more than £95 a week and carry on claiming carers allowance they would soon be hauled before the courts and have to repay any overpayment. The arrogance of these MP's is astounding

jaysay · 12-03-2010, 09:41

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Originally Posted by garinda

Yes, they are a special case, and should therefore feel the full weight of the law, as an example to the citizens they governed, that stealing is wrong.

Spot on

Ken Moss · 12-03-2010, 11:25

Politicians getting preferential treatment in the eyes of the law over dodgy expenses.....yup, should sit well with the public in these stable times.

Margaret Pilkington · 12-03-2010, 11:37

No, they are no more special than any benefit fraudster being dealt with by any court in the land.......that they believe they are 'special' and should be treated in a different way(does that mean more leniently?) just shows how out of touch they are with public opinion and how far away from the real world they are.
They are despicable.
Baroness Uddin has been cleared of any wrong doing on a technicality....she claimed £100,000 pounds and has got away with it, only because there is no clear distinction in the parliamentary regulations as to what constitues a primary residence....so if she visited her flat in Maidstone Kent once a month, then this could be considered her primary residence and she was free to calim £174 per night for accommodation in the city.
More bl**dy neck than a giraffe!

Wynonie Harris · 12-03-2010, 12:51

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Baroness Uddin has been cleared of any wrong doing on a technicality....she claimed £100,000 pounds and has got away with it, only because there is no clear distinction in the parliamentary regulations as to what constitues a primary residence....so if she visited her flat in Maidstone Kent once a month, then this could be considered her primary residence and she was free to calim £174 per night for accommodation in the city.
More bl**dy neck than a giraffe!

According to the BBC, this is down to a recent ruling by the Lords authorities which determined that peers could nominate a property as their "main" home even if they only "visit" it at least once a month.

Note that - a "recent" ruling. In other words, these greedy, snout-dipping sods are determined to keep on troughing at our expense.

Or how about this?

MPs’ expenses: Ann and Alan Keen told to repay just £1,500 - Telegraph

Despite all the fine words, it's abundantly clear that those who supposedly represent us have STILL not got the message.

If there's a low turn out and/or a large vote for fringe parties in a couple of months time, we'll know exactly who's to blame!

jaysay · 12-03-2010, 14:54

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

According to the BBC, this is down to a recent ruling by the Lords authorities which determined that peers could nominate a property as their "main" home even if they only "visit" it at least once a month.

Note that - a "recent" ruling. In other words, these greedy, snout-dipping sods are determined to keep on troughing at our expense.

Or how about this?

MPs’ expenses: Ann and Alan Keen told to repay just £1,500 - Telegraph

Despite all the fine words, it's abundantly clear that those who supposedly represent us have STILL not got the message.

If there's a low turn out and/or a large vote for fringe parties in a couple of months time, we'll know exactly who's to blame!

Take it your not a fan Wyn

Barrie Yates · 12-03-2010, 15:33

What does the Representative for Hyndburn have to say on the matter - and all prospective ones for that matter - they seem to be very quiet on the matter - waiting, hoping to get their snouts in the Westminster trough?

garinda · 12-03-2010, 15:35

It appears Peers and MPs can get away with stealing hundreds of thousands of pounds, whilst others are jailed for stealing £18.

Accrington woman jailed for dodging Â£18 taxi fare (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Stealing is stealing, and everyone is (supposed to be) equal before the law.

BERNADETTE · 12-03-2010, 15:55

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

What does the Representative for Hyndburn have to say on the matter - and all prospective ones for that matter - they seem to be very quiet on the matter - waiting, hoping to get their snouts in the Westminster trough?

I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for comments they seem very tight lipped on this subject

Benipete · 12-03-2010, 17:49

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Originally Posted by garinda

It appears Peers and MPs can get away with stealing hundreds of thousands of pounds, whilst others are jailed for stealing £18.

Accrington woman jailed for dodging Â£18 taxi fare (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Stealing is stealing, and everyone is (supposed to be) equal before the law.

I may be pushing my luck on this subject but would it be legal for me to claim Housing and Council Tax benefit for my flat if I stayed here for one night a month and spent the rest of the time doing a bit of Slippery in Europe.

I do have a Hereditary coat of arms, just short of a Diplomatic bag or two.

garinda · 12-03-2010, 18:05

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Baroness Uddin has been cleared of any wrong doing on a technicality....she claimed £100,000 pounds and has got away with it, only because there is no clear distinction in the parliamentary regulations as to what constitues a primary residence....so if she visited her flat in Maidstone Kent once a month, then this could be considered her primary residence and she was free to calim £174 per night for accommodation in the city.
More bl**dy neck than a giraffe!

How this immoral, arrogant bitch has evaded criminal proceedings is down to the fact that those these people made up the rules, which they then abused.

Hang your head in shame, along with Blair for making you a Peer, and along with a government that allowed these abuses to flourish.

Sadly, if they'd have had their way, for they fought tooth and nail to keep their expenses shrouded in secrecy, we'd be none the wiser, and they'd still be milking the system.