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Less 27-04-2010 09:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 810353)
Ooh, get you.

I've had 32 years' training to get to this level, I'll have you know.
So, how long before you show signs of improvement? Entry level is a free pass!
:eek:

jaysay 27-04-2010 09:05
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 810353)
Ooh, get you.

I've had 32 years' training to get to this level, I'll have you know.
And thats only level 1 Ken:D

DaveinGermany 03-05-2010 18:55
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The Burkha Ban planned for France has been further outlined in a leaked memo.
Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Men face jail over ban on burkha


Belgium are also a step nearer as its been passed in the draft form.
Unveiled - Belgium's burka ban / English News / News / Today / Start - Euranet

Also Holland one of the most relaxed & open minded Countries in Europe are making more noises. But of Course with all this "Anti Muslim Feeling" guess who's up on their hind legs threatening reprisals & the wrath of the righteous ?

"We will seek dreadful revenge on France by all means at our disposal, for the honour of our daughters and sisters."

Last year Al Qaeda vowed revenge on France if it banned the burqa on its streets. Islamic leaders have warned that a law banning veils in the streets could stigmatise Muslims and drive some to extremism.

Now there's a surprise !! Christianity is slated on a regular basis, Judaism also comes in for regular hounding along with virtually every other religion major or minor, but the followers of that faith just live with it, they don't go out threatening death & destruction to the detractors or their peoples. Is it any wonder "Extreme" Muslims come in for such critique ? Lighten up & perhaps we'll be more tolerant !

jaysay 04-05-2010 07:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 812172)
The Burka Ban planned for France has been further outlined in a leaked memo.
Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Men face jail over ban on burka


Belgium are also a step nearer as its been passed in the draft form.
Unveiled - Belgium's burka ban / English News / News / Today / Start - Euranet

Also Holland one of the most relaxed & open minded Countries in Europe are making more noises. But of Course with all this "Anti Muslim Feeling" guess who's up on their hind legs threatening reprisals & the wrath of the righteous ?

"We will seek dreadful revenge on France by all means at our disposal, for the honour of our daughters and sisters."

Last year Al Qaeda vowed revenge on France if it banned the burqa on its streets. Islamic leaders have warned that a law banning veils in the streets could stigmatise Muslims and drive some to extremism.

Now there's a surprise !! Christianity is slated on a regular basis, Judaism also comes in for regular hounding along with virtually every other religion major or minor, but the followers of that faith just live with it, they don't go out threatening death & destruction to the detractors or their peoples. Is it any wonder "Extreme" Muslims come in for such critique ? Lighten up & perhaps we'll be more tolerant !
Its a bit like the usual statement about reprisals because USA and GB are killing our muslim brothers and sisters, more muslims kill each other than anything else, look what Saddam did with the Kurds:(

Ken Moss 04-05-2010 10:35
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To judge from talking to people in the streets, immigration (illegal or otherwise) is the main concern for the majority of people.

Whether they are palatable observations or not, Muslims have made themselves a target for people venting their spleen by essentially making certain areas of this country unwelcoming to the British.

Wynonie Harris 04-05-2010 12:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 812283)
Muslims have made themselves a target for people venting their spleen by essentially making certain areas of this country unwelcoming to the British.
Really, Ken! How can you be so ungrateful? ;)

Khan: Labour's the only way for British Muslims | Left Foot Forward

Ken Moss 04-05-2010 12:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 812297)
Really, Ken! How can you be so ungrateful? ;)

Khan: Labour's the only way for British Muslims | Left Foot Forward
Just quoting the residents. These are local issues, you know....

DaveinGermany 05-05-2010 05:48
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Laws already in place are now being used in Italy, don't we also have anti terrorist laws along the same lines in UK ?

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Mayor of Novara defends fining woman for wearing burkha

The main points of interest I think are the following sentences :

Under Italian anti-terrorist laws introduced in the 1970s to fight political activists, it is illegal to be seen in a public place with your face covered.

Mr Giordano said: “I signed the new regulations for reasons of security, but also so that people who came to live in our city are aware and respect our traditions.

The regulations in Novara specifically cover people wearing clothing that prevents them from being identified in a public place and a post office is a public place.

 “This would also apply to a motorcyclist who walked into a post office wearing a crash helmet. The people of Novara do not want to see people walking around in the city wearing a burkha.


If it can happen in Italy why not here ?

madmal_1 06-05-2010 11:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 804744)
I'll post this again.
Part of Enoch Powell's speech on immigration.
He was right.
Retlaw.
come back enoch powell

madmal_1 06-05-2010 11:05
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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 804757)
Muslims blowing up crap in Russia ... in Pakistan ... in London .... in the US .... causing problems in China ... who gives a shlt that their sensitivities are being offended.
well said

cashman 06-05-2010 14:43
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Originally Posted by madmal_1 (Post 812647)
come back enoch powell
Will be difficult, jesus been dead 2010 years n he aint made it back yet.:D

jaysay 06-05-2010 14:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 812700)
Will be difficult, jesus been dead 2010 years n he aint made it back yet.:D
Well I don't know about that cashy some on here think they're God:D

acertun 07-05-2010 17:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 812700)
Will be difficult, jesus been dead 2010 years n he aint made it back yet.:D
What happened to . On the third day he rose again

DaveinGermany 07-05-2010 18:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by acertun (Post 813068)
What happened to . On the third day he rose again
And due to this fact he would therefore upset someone & as such he should get back in his box out of sight & mind along with Mohanmmed & Ol' Bin Laden !

jaysay 08-05-2010 09:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by acertun (Post 813068)
What happened to . On the third day he rose again
Think you've missed your vocation, you should have been a stand up comic, but not a very good one:)

DaveinGermany 11-05-2010 18:16
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So long as morons like this are allowed free rein in UK, people are going to have a downer on Muslims. It's very difficult for the average bloke on the street to separate the good from the bad (Muslims) & when their own kind wont clamp down on these cretins !! The British public will continue to cry foul & the Muslim will always feel Insulted by our attitude, but whose fault is it ?

Man who called for murder of PM pleads guilty to terror charge - Crime, UK - The Independent

DaveinGermany 27-05-2010 06:04
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Oh Dear, looks like they're music critics too ! :D:D:D

Elton John concert upsets Morocco's Muslim politicians - Telegraph

Talk about double standards !!

SPUGGIE J 27-05-2010 06:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 818376)
Oh Dear, looks like they're music critics too ! :D:D:D

Elton John concert upsets Morocco's Muslim politicians - Telegraph

Talk about double standards !!
That i putting it mildly. A they said in the article his private and profensional life are separate. It seems that the control freaks are on the loose again. The country has realisexd that push and state hound the populace and you get unrest so are modern and progresive in some ways.

jaysay 27-05-2010 09:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 818376)
Oh Dear, looks like they're music critics too ! :D:D:D

Elton John concert upsets Morocco's Muslim politicians - Telegraph

Talk about double standards !!
Well what do you expect from a lad of bigots:confused::confused:or is that another thread:rolleyes:

cashman 27-05-2010 10:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by acertun (Post 813068)
What happened to . On the third day he rose again
Well if the storys true yes he did, but he sure didn't knock about earth again did he?

Boeing Guy 27-05-2010 11:59
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I was working last night, would have gone, I think Sting is on tonight and I am working as well, however on Friday Santana is on, cannot wait. Unless its canceled before then!!!

jaysay 27-05-2010 14:36
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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 818459)
Bug@@r I was working last night, would have gone, I think Sting is on tonight and I am working as well, however on Friday Santana is on, cannot wait. Unless its canceled before then!!!
Why BG what can they think up to bash Santana with:rolleyes:

JCB 27-05-2010 20:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 810347)
as far as I know UK is still classed as a Christian Country,
I can't see how it be classed as Christian , Dave.

Re the burqa - When I drove a motor-bike , there were notices on post office and bank doors instructing me to remove my helmet in case I was a robber hiding my identity.
It seems only fair that ladies with their identity hidden should have to do likewise.

DaveinGermany 28-05-2010 04:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JCB (Post 818525)
I can't see how it be classed as Christian , Dave.
According to the latest census & various other studies, around 70% state their faith (in UK) to one of the Christian denominations. The rest is made up from other faiths with varying numbers of followers/believers/non believers.

Hence the statement "As far as I know,UK is still classed as a Christian Country"

Eric 28-05-2010 04:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 818376)
Oh Dear, looks like they're music critics too ! :D:D:D

Elton John concert upsets Morocco's Muslim politicians - Telegraph

Talk about double standards !!
He'll have a better welcome here in Kingston when he plays the K-Rock Centre in July ... ;)

steeljack 28-05-2010 04:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 818598)

According to the latest census & various other studies, around 70% state their faith (in UK) to one of the Christian denominations. The rest is made up from other faiths with varying numbers of followers/believers/non believers.

Hence the statement "As far as I know,UK is still classed as a Christian Country"
Think the 70% figure is misleading , it would be more interesting to know how many of todays 'Youf' were ever baptised/Christened , or infact how many of their parents were married in a "proper' Church.
Probabaly a thread wander , but , Just one look at the weekly obituarys in the Accrington Observer tells a story ..."the service was carried out by a "Humanist" minister "......... Wiccan, Zorastrian , Buddist , Hindu , Muslim I can understand .... but someone please explain what a Humanist is .... :confused:

DaveinGermany 28-05-2010 05:38
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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 818603)
someone please explain what a Humanist is .... :confused:
:rolleyes: According to the tin SJ :-


Humanism

Humanism is the view that we can make sense of the world using reason, experience and shared human values and that we can live good lives without religious or superstitious beliefs.
Humanists seek to make the best of the one life we have by creating meaning and purpose for ourselves. We choose to take responsibility for our actions and work with others for the common good.
Humanists do not believe in a God or gods, or any other supernatural or divine entities. Humanists do not think that the universe needs a divine power outside of itself in order to have value. We, inside the universe, determine its value. We think that other people, for example, are moral concerns, not because they are made in the image of Something Else, but because of who they are in themselves.


And you can even find out if you are one :confused: Have fun !! :)



Are you a Humanist?

Eric 28-05-2010 06:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 818606)
:rolleyes: According to the tin SJ :-


Humanism

Humanism is the view that we can make sense of the world using reason, experience and shared human values and that we can live good lives without religious or superstitious beliefs.
Humanists seek to make the best of the one life we have by creating meaning and purpose for ourselves. We choose to take responsibility for our actions and work with others for the common good.
Humanists do not believe in a God or gods, or any other supernatural or divine entities. Humanists do not think that the universe needs a divine power outside of itself in order to have value. We, inside the universe, determine its value. We think that other people, for example, are moral concerns, not because they are made in the image of Something Else, but because of who they are in themselves.


And you can even find out if you are one :confused: Have fun !! :)



Are you a Humanist?
Nah ... can't agree with the whole definitiion ... The first part: "Humanism is ...." , I can agree with; but, from there, things go downhill real fast.

MargaretR 28-05-2010 07:33
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I have no religion, but believe I have a soul and a spirit, so I don't fit the humanist description.

Spiritual belief and religion are not the same.

Less 28-05-2010 07:39
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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 818606)



And you can even find out if you are one :confused: Have fun !! :)



Are you a Humanist?
You are an absolute ace hole...

Oh, no, not you Dave, that's what my score was!:D

jaysay 28-05-2010 08:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JCB (Post 818525)

I can't see how it be classed as Christian , Dave.
Re the burqa - When I drove a motor-bike , there were notices on post office and bank doors instructing me to remove my helmet in case I was a robber hiding my identity.
It seems only fair that ladies with their identity hidden should have to do likewise.[/quote]
It took me 5 minutes to reply to this post as I had to take a powder, I actually agree with JCB:D

Less 28-05-2010 08:55
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 818636)
It took me 5 minutes to reply to this post as I had to take a powder, I actually agree with JCB:D
That was the easy part, how many powders would you have to take if he actually agreed with you?

:confused:

jaysay 28-05-2010 09:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 818637)
That was the easy part, how many powders would you have to take if he actually agreed with you?

:confused:
Sod off Less:D:D

JCB 28-05-2010 10:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 818624)

Spiritual belief and religion are not the same.
I'm with you on that one Margaret.

JCB 28-05-2010 10:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 818636)
It took me 5 minutes to reply to this post as I had to take a powder, I actually agree with JCB:D
Get stocked up with powders , jaysay .We agree on many things.

jaysay 28-05-2010 10:36
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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 818663)
Get stocked up with powders , jaysay .We agree on many things.
Only time will tell on that one Colin;)

JCB 28-05-2010 18:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 804692)
Any chance we could welcome the Army to Higher Antley St in about two years time for a bit of target practice?
Don't tell me .Tealeaf ,you don't like those melodic sounds coming out of that loud-speaker.
Whoever it is puts Pavarotti to shame.
I go into ecstasy when I'm passing by at about 1.30.

DaveinGermany 03-06-2010 17:25
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France 2 Muslims 0, well Monsewer le Frog is doing it again ! last one was the back end of April & now again today.

Woman fined for driving while wearing burka - Telegraph

derekgas 03-06-2010 19:08
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It was made illegal to have blacked out windscreen and front windows, partly because the police couldnt see the driver, so I agree with the fine.

Ken Moss 09-06-2010 06:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 820029)
France 2 Muslims 0, well Monsewer le Frog is doing it again ! last one was the back end of April & now again today.

Woman fined for driving while wearing burka - Telegraph
Say what you will about the French, I personally believe that they have it right.

It's not being racist or hostile to foreigners, it's simply protecting your national identity. There is also the common sense argument about restricted vision which would comfortably find you failing your MOT in Great Britain if your windscreen has cracks within a certain area.

I note that the crucifix has also been banned in state schools so the all-purpose 'racism' card that usually gets played on these occasions doesn't really cut it.

When in Rome....

garinda 09-06-2010 07:28
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(Not only applicable to Muslims, but unworthy of a new thread.)

'Partners or spouses of any migrant living in the UK will also have to demonstrate a basic command of the language before they are allowed in, Theresa May, the Home Secretary, will say.

The new rules are expected to cut the number of foreign partners arriving in the UK by a sixth and could help combat sham marriages.'
Foreign spouses must learn English before they come to UK - Telegraph

If this ends the culture we have now, in which we have every offical form translated into umpteen languages, it can only be a positive step.

Wynonie Harris 09-06-2010 07:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 821267)
(Not only applicable to Muslims, but unworthy of a new thread.)

'Partners or spouses of any migrant living in the UK will also have to demonstrate a basic command of the language before they are allowed in, Theresa May, the Home Secretary, will say.

The new rules are expected to cut the number of foreign partners arriving in the UK by a sixth and could help combat sham marriages.'
Foreign spouses must learn English before they come to UK - Telegraph

If this ends the culture we have now, in which we have every offical form translated into umpteen languages, it can only be a positive step.
...it'd be a more positive step if it was applied equally to ALL non-English speakers coming to live in the UK.

garinda 09-06-2010 07:52
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 821272)
...it'd be a more positive step if it was applied equally to ALL non-English speakers coming to live in the UK.
Quite agree.

Can't see why it's just being aimed at spouses.

Wynonie Harris 09-06-2010 07:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 821277)
Quite agree.

Can't see why it's just being aimed at spouses.
Can't see why it's just being aimed at non-EU immigrants myself.

jaysay 09-06-2010 09:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 821278)
Can't see why it's just being aimed at non-EU immigrants myself.
Because It would be against European legislation Wyn, other countries might not enforce this rule but then maybe they don't have the dogooders in other countries who make a song and dance and eventually millions pf pounds in legal aide fighting it through the courts:(

Wynonie Harris 09-06-2010 09:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 821287)
Because It would be against European legislation Wyn, other countries might not enforce this rule but then maybe they don't have the dogooders in other countries who make a song and dance and eventually millions pf pounds in legal aide fighting it through the courts:(
It's all very well blaming "do-gooders", Jaysay, but in the end your party hasn't got the guts to stand up against the iniquities of EU legislation. Your leader slid out of giving us a referendum and your home secretary is a pathetic wimpette.

...and yes, I know you resigned, but once a Tory, always a Tory! ;)

jaysay 09-06-2010 10:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 821291)
It's all very well blaming "do-gooders", Jaysay, but in the end your party hasn't got the guts to stand up against the iniquities of EU legislation. Your leader slid out of giving us a referendum and your home secretary is a pathetic wimpette.

...and yes, I know you resigned, but once a Tory, always a Tory! ;)
We've had this debate before, the time for a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty was before it was ratified not now. It would cost thousands of pounds we don't have to tell everybody what we all know would have happened if Labour had kept their manifesto commitment, and had the referendum they promised, a resounding rejection. And as for still being a Tory is that A Tory or a Torlib or just a Lib;) Think I'll just pass :rolleyes:

garinda 09-06-2010 10:32
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 821306)
And as for still being a Tory is that A Tory or a Torlib or just a Lib;) Think I'll just pass :rolleyes:
Don't pass.

We'll just label you a ConDem.

:D

Wynonie Harris 09-06-2010 10:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 821306)
We've had this debate before, the time for a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty was before it was ratified not now. It would cost thousands of pounds we don't have to tell everybody what we all know would have happened if Labour had kept their manifesto commitment, and had the referendum they promised, a resounding rejection. And as for still being a Tory is that A Tory or a Torlib or just a Lib;) Think I'll just pass :rolleyes:
So the boy David's "cast iron promise" wasn't worth a light. Of course, he could have widened the debate by having a referendum on our membership of the EU, but he hasn't got the guts to do that, because he knows what the answer will be!

Incidentally, Jaysay, is that going to be your excuse for the next 5 years? It was the Lib's fault!! ;)

jaysay 09-06-2010 10:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 821310)
So the boy David's "cast iron promise" wasn't worth a light. Of course, he could have widened the debate by having a referendum on our membership of the EU, but he hasn't got the guts to do that, because he knows what the answer will be!

Incidentally, Jaysay, is that going to be your excuse for the next 5 years? It was the Lib's fault!! ;)
Being a realist Wyn I won't be here that long;)

jaysay 09-06-2010 10:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 821308)
Should read 'We'll...'

(Why do glaring mistakes never appear until that little edit button has disappeared?)

:rolleyes:

:D
Tell me about it G happens to me all the time especially when Less is lurking round the corner to point it out:D

garinda 09-06-2010 10:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 821312)
Tell me about it G happens to me all the time especially when Less is lurking round the corner to point it out:D
Perhaps we could both do with some new Goggles.

:p

Wynonie Harris 09-06-2010 11:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 821311)
Being a realist Wyn I won't be here that long;)
Well, I hope you're still there when I come round for that much-anticipated brew! ;)

Tealeaf 09-06-2010 11:32
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There's one thing the government can do straight away and that is to stop all legal aid for immigration and asylum cases. I doubt if there is any argument about making cuts there (although no doubt Mancie will disagree).

cashman 09-06-2010 13:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 821314)
Well, I hope you're still there when I come round for that much-anticipated brew! ;)
ya will get one if ya make it yerself.:D

Wynonie Harris 09-06-2010 14:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 821337)
ya will get one if ya make it yerself.:D
Make it meself?...He'll have to shape up better than that when I bring the Afghani asylum seekers round! ;)

jaysay 09-06-2010 14:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 821314)
Well, I hope you're still there when I come round for that much-anticipated brew! ;)
You'll have to be sharp Wyn:D

jaysay 09-06-2010 14:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 821313)
Perhaps we could both do with some new Goggles.

:p
Ah so you've seen my latest oopsy too have you:D

jaysay 09-06-2010 14:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 821337)
ya will get one if ya make it yerself.:D
Well if you come with him you can show him where't kettle is, I'll put the accy web mugs out :rolleyes:

jaysay 09-06-2010 15:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 821345)
Make it meself?...He'll have to shape up better than that when I bring the Afghani asylum seekers round! ;)
There won't be any safe haven here Wyn:D

garinda 09-06-2010 16:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 821319)
There's one thing the government can do straight away and that is to stop all legal aid for immigration and asylum cases. I doubt if there is any argument about making cuts there (although no doubt Mancie will disagree).
He's probably lobbying his MP, leading Lib Dem Simon Hughes, about it this very minute.

DaveinGermany 09-06-2010 18:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 821278)
Can't see why it's just being aimed at non-EU immigrants myself.
Couldn't agree more Wyn, the subject has been aired on numerous occasions, I chose to live in Germany, so I had to learn their language same as many other ex-pats who've settled elsewhere. Barrie in France is another example, didn't see the authorities falling over themselves to get things done in English to make our lives easy ! We had to conform & fit in with our hosts, so can they ! should they not want to, better that they stay put.

Tealeaf 09-06-2010 18:14
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And what about the EU immigrants? It now appears that the Romanian who hitched a ride in the landing gear of a 747 from Vienna to Heathrow on Sundayis entitled to say in this country because he is an EU citizen. I would have thought that a number of laws would have been broken in this jolly jaunt so why he was not immeadiatly returned to Romania, I do not know.

Wynonie Harris 09-06-2010 19:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 821399)
And what about the EU immigrants? It now appears that the Romanian who hitched a ride in the landing gear of a 747 from Vienna to Heathrow on Sundayis entitled to say in this country because he is an EU citizen. I would have thought that a number of laws would have been broken in this jolly jaunt so why he was not immeadiatly returned to Romania, I do not know.
Seems a bit extreme...why didn't he just get a cheapo coach fare like everyone else?

Tealeaf 09-06-2010 19:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 821430)
Seems a bit extreme...why didn't he just get a cheapo coach fare like everyone else?
He probably wouldn't have understood the tannoy announcements in Polish when he would have arrived at Victoria coach station.

suedarbo 09-06-2010 19:32
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Now that's a thought. Is it not driscrimination to have leaflets printed in English, Urdu, hindu or whatever it is but yet none translated into Spanish, Germen, French, Italian etc? Why are they just in English, Urdu and Hindu?

jaysay 10-06-2010 09:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by suedarbo (Post 821439)
Now that's a thought. Is it not driscrimination to have leaflets printed in English, Urdu, hindu or whatever it is but yet none translated into Spanish, Germen, French, Italian etc? Why are they just in English, Urdu and Hindu?
I can understand English (even if I can't write it Less:D) and of course Urdu and Hindi are the languages of our commonwealth brethren:rolleyes:

Eric 12-06-2010 01:35
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 821509)
I can understand English (even if I can't write it Less:D) and of course Urdu and Hindi are the languages of our commonwealth brethren:rolleyes:
So is French, wouldn't want to pee off the wonderful folks in Quebec;):D

Mancie 12-06-2010 02:50
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
I can't see what the problem is... David Cameron said he would sort it out.. so why bother?

DaveinGermany 01-07-2010 04:19
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
Oh dear, a little too late I think, obvious a populist effort !

Tory MP proposes law to ban wearing burkas - UK Politics, UK - The Independent

As I read somewhere or other not so long back, that the "Human rights" Corp have been sticking their oar in.

accyman 01-07-2010 04:42
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 825582)
Oh dear, a little too late I think, obvious a populist effort !

Tory MP proposes law to ban wearing burkas - UK Politics, UK - The Independent

As I read somewhere or other not so long back, that the "Human rights" Corp have been sticking their oar in.
lol human rights brigade preserving the right for man to force his wife to wear a burka despite it not been written anywhere in tehir religion that it should be worn pmsl you cant make it up

you realy would think that a man with any brain in his head would make bikini wearing compulsary if anything , not a bloomin burka

Wynonie Harris 01-07-2010 07:37
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 825584)
you realy would think that a man with any brain in his head would make bikini wearing compulsary if anything , not a bloomin burka
Hmmmm...depends who's wearing the bikini. ;)

garinda 01-07-2010 07:39
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 825604)
Hmmmm...depends who's wearing the bikini. ;)
Accyman ain't fussy.

http://www.mygtv.net/wp-content/uplo...fat-bikini.jpg

:D

jaysay 01-07-2010 08:50
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 825605)
I'm afraid the chain holding the bikini bottoms up don't look half strong enough:D

accyman 01-07-2010 09:01
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
i see they blanked the face out which begs the question how bad is the face if the body is her best feature :eek:

and if teh kids are reading thats what happens when mum shops at iceland ;)

jaysay 01-07-2010 10:22
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by accyman (Post 825623)
i see they blanked the face out which begs the question how bad is the face if the body is her best feature :eek:

and if teh kids are reading thats what happens when mum shops at iceland ;)
Never realised that Kerry had grown to that size accyman:D

DaveinGermany 01-10-2010 06:14
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
And the latest from our Dutch friends :-

Netherlands to ban burka, says anti-Islam MP - Telegraph

jaysay 01-10-2010 09:23
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 848809)
And the latest from our Dutch friends :-

Netherlands to ban burka, says anti-Islam MP - Telegraph
Seems everybodies at it

SPUGGIE J 01-10-2010 16:03
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 848809)
And the latest from our Dutch friends :-

Netherlands to ban burka, says anti-Islam MP - Telegraph
Each country has the right to do what it deems best for its people for better or worse. We may be soft and nambie pambie around this issue but others are not.

Less 01-10-2010 16:35
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At least the zealots don't have a problem with our Western conundrum,

"does my bum look big in this?"

How can I tell? it's a tent, anyway which wife are you?

Another thought, over here we seem to produce a 50/50 ratio of men to Women, how come they have Women to spare?

'Stop doing the doggy paddle young lady come and live in hose pipe Britain with me',

I knew I could help in a crisis!

JCB 01-10-2010 18:38
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The burqua ban, if it is banned in Holland , will be to get an anti-Islam MP and his little group on side to enable a coalition government to be formed .

I can see occasions when it is better not to wear the burqua , but being anti-Islam is not for me .

I am anti-Islamist , but not anti-Islam .

Barrie Yates 01-10-2010 18:49
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
The home of Islam is Saudi Arabia - I will more easily accept Muslims when Saudi Arabia allows Christianity and Christian Church Services to be openly practiced in Saudi Arabia - i.e. the holding of religous services in places other than the Western Embassies

jaysay 01-10-2010 19:10
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 848947)
The home of Islam is Saudi Arabia - I will more easily accept Muslims when Saudi Arabia allows Christianity and Christian Church Services to be openly practiced in Saudi Arabia - i.e. the holding of religous services in places other than the Western Embassies
There's a fat chance of that ever happening Barrie:(

SPUGGIE J 01-10-2010 20:56
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 848947)
The home of Islam is Saudi Arabia - I will more easily accept Muslims when Saudi Arabia allows Christianity and Christian Church Services to be openly practiced in Saudi Arabia - i.e. the holding of religous services in places other than the Western Embassies

If that happens then there is hope for me finding my marbles. :D

jaysay 02-10-2010 09:05
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 848982)
If that happens then there is hope for me finding my marbles. :D
Not holding out much hope there Spugs:D

SPUGGIE J 02-10-2010 17:56
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 849048)
Not holding out much hope there Spugs:D
Nor do I after this mornings escapades. :o

DaveinGermany 14-10-2010 12:29
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
Well this is the latest from Holland, & Wilders will be pushing for further concessions it seems as stated in the article.

Wilders-Backed Dutch Government Plans to Cut Immigration, Development Aid - Bloomberg

DaveinGermany 22-10-2010 18:51
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
Could someone please remind me again who it is that are the racists & bigots ?

Cafe fan banned in case smell of bacon offends Muslims - Telegraph

jaysay 22-10-2010 18:55
Re: Insult to Muslims
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 854105)
Could someone please remind me again who it is that are the racists & bigots ?

Cafe fan banned in case smell of bacon offends Muslims - Telegraph
Oh come on Dave don't make me laugh my lips are chapped;)


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