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'MUSLIM leaders from East Lancashire have demanded a meeting with bosses of a fast food giant in a row over halal accreditation.
According to Kentucky Fried Chicken (KFC), its Accrington, Blackburn, Colne and Burnley restaurants have switched to halal. KFC said it was certified by the Halal Food Authority (HFA) and the authority’s logo is displayed on the doors of its outlets. But the Lancashire Council of Mosques (LCM) has asked for an urgent meeting with the firm after concerns were raised over the authenticity of the halal food served. Meanwhile a protest has been launched against KFC’s decision to serve only halal meat at its Colne branch.' Double trouble for East Lancashire ‘halal’ KFC restaurants (From Blackburn Citizen) KFC diner told 'you can't have bacon in your burger here - we're now halal!' | Mail Online Halal meat protest outside Colne KFC - Pendle Today Seems this decision has pleased no one so far, with protests from all sides. |
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Another triumph for the PC Brigade!
If they want another hornet's nest to stir up they might want a wander down to Blackburn College canteen of a morning to see how many Muslims students avail themselves of a bacon butty.... |
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Well i went round the Accrington food festival yesterday and will be having Ostrich steak for dinner today:D
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Sounds lovely. You having it with an ostrich egg?
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and then onto the bookies to put a bet on
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Let's not mention what they get up to with those loose pieces of 'white meat' though, (Your not telling me that what they put into their mouths under those circumstances is Halal).:D
A couple of friends are thinking of opening a restaurant on Blackburn Rd, I don't think they will be going for the Halal certificate. http://britandgrit.com/wp-content/up...miller_kkk.jpg |
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Ah! The men in hoods from Malaga...it's about time we had a Spanish Tapas restaurant in Accy. Every other town in England seems to have one. Can't wait.
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mind you as far as accy KFC is concerened its not a matter of what meat is used but if its cooked long enough |
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This lot better not come after my steaks as there will be trouble!! Like mine still running around my plate bleeding nicely. :D:D:D
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To be honest if you have made the decision to eat meat it doesn't really matter how it died, it's dead, either eat it or don't. Don't berate others about their lifestyle choice. ( and no, am not veggie, was for 17 years though)
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no ones berating anyone for eating halal meat what peopel dont like is having that choice put upon them just for the sake of a minority of people which also has a lot of followers that dosnt adhere to the rules of their faith themselves .If kfc want to cater for muslims they should open up a separate company that does and not expect us to eat hallal meat because as far as i am aware this is a christian country not a muslim state and therefore teh majority shoudl be catered for not the minority.If i wanted to eat halal meat i would buy halal meat and if i wanted halal crunchy fried chicken i would go to an asian takeaway that did it like those on blackburn road.
why should a majority bend backwards for a minority or does democracey not apply when it concerns race unless it rules in favour of the minority all i know is that if i went to a muslim state and started to demand special treatment and that everyone change tehir ways to suit me i would probably be flogged in the street and told to shut up only teh other week a couple have been put in prison for kissing in public in dubai and the general opinion is that when over there do as they do yet when over here peopel arnt expected to do as we do |
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I once witnessed a delivery to the Halal meat shop on Blackburn Road.It arrived in the boot of a taxi,the driver threw it onto the pavement then it was dragged into the shop.:eek:
So I'll make my own curries if thats alright.:D |
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ps: im not %100 against halal i go to pc cellular and purchase many halal ink cartridges for my epson printer |
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Its amazing what they can get away with, like accyman said there are other places where they can go to buy halal food, so why ruin it for the natives of this country, it really annoys me.
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i want some chicken now
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Restaurants? don't talk daft they are Take aways with a few plastic tables in them, I don't think anyone would be impressed if you said, "I'll take you to a Restaurant tonight", then you go to KFC, the person you take will be thinking, 'cheapskate'. :D |
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I tend to do most of the cooking these days but every now and again for some bizarre reason a wave of insanity sweeps over my wife and I on the way back home from Asda in Accy and we get a KFC. Every time we say it will be the last time as the only things we actually enjoy are the chicken strips and popcorn chicken, both of which are reconstituted from other bits.
Let them have their halal, but sooner or later there's going to be an almighty backlash in this country and Westminster can't say that it hasn't been warned. |
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In another thread yesterday we were talking about the movie Gran Torino, in which Clint Eastwood's character is clinging on to the values of his home country while his immigrant neighbours erode them. It's a rather extreme version of the situation we're finding ourselves in at the moment but anyone who has seen it can probably appreciate the parallels. |
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This instance is primarily a commercial gesture of course, but given that vast numbers of the clientele have been Asian whenever I've been to the Accrington branch of KFC it is also symptomatic of the needlessly politically correct nightmare we're sliding into. |
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And in answer to the questions I predict you're about to ask me: 1) Yes 2) Bright blue 3) Cold, greasy tripe and raw eggs :D |
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1) have you ever worn your wife's underwear in public? 2) What colour does your backside go when you find yourself in a 'mating' mode? 3) What would be the the most erotically stimulating ingredients you could put in a bath that you plan to share with a loved one? :eek: |
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Politics aside, it's just another sign of the times. As the traditional customer base is eroded away business will look to make up the shortfall & if you've got x 1000 Muslims on your doorstep who don't do Mc D's or Burgerthing, well good old Southern Fried Chicken is your next best thing !!!
And to back it all up & to make sure it's "Kosher" or as they call it Halal, they've applied for the stamp & received it. If it truly is or not well that's another matter, but in the meantime as a blatant marketing opportunity to get people through the doors ! Note the use of "Southern" as the view from "Kentucky" isn't exactly in favour of our darker skinned Burghers. One more point, the header for the last paragraph : Don’t blame KFC–blame self-centered Americans: Now replace Self-centered Americans - With self serving ????? take your pick ! KFC's 'racist' ad - The Week |
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just took a look at the kfc website and there is no option to email kfc but you can ring them or write to them if you are not happy with the switch to halal meat and their catering for the minority of their customers and total disregard for the majority.
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Why not just not buy there.
It was muck before it went halal and it is still muck now |
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On the positive side and in defence of KFC, any food they have left over isn't kept for the following day, it is thrown away that night. On the negative side it must cost them and the environment a fortune having so many skips emptied every night ready for business the next day. :) |
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The poorest excuse, Act three, scene 42 and a half |
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Or maybe:
'...my kingdom, my kingdom for a spellchecker,' |
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Apparently you can get birds ready plucked in Israel. Though they might get stuck in some people's gullets, being Jewish chickens, even when fried in the Colonel's secret recipe of eleven herbs and spices.
Though I suppose all slaughter methods are available for the poor pluckers. http://www.klyoga.com/images/featherless-chicken.jpg |
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At least they don't use battery farming methods, and the produce is allowed freedom of movement, before hitting the fryer.
FOXNews.com - NYC KFC-Taco Bell Passed Inspection Day Before Rats Caught on Tape - Business And Money | Business News | Financial News :D |
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i would only be concerned if it was free moving after it was cooked lol
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With all the decent halal food outlets around Hyndburn it would seem odd for the Muslim council to cause any sort of fuss about KFC not serving food that they can eat. From the little I know of poultry farming, chickens are actually killed in halal style anyway to keep the meat in the right conditions. |
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well i just got off the phone with KFC and was told it is a trial but i doubt that somehow i think its just to appease the people who ring up but i was told that they are recieving quite a lot of complaints and oddly enough the so called trials arnt going on in america .
I also pointed out that muslims have been eating there way before they introduced this policy and actually working in the kfc places with the non halal meat so there was no need to appeal to teh muslim faith because they were already customers and employees i was thanked for my input and on a lighter note if you ring now you may get the same sexy sounding chick i did ( not a cruchy fried one) :D |
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It remains to be seen, at the end of the trial, whether or not it was a wise one. |
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i think there are 2 dixie chicken outlets in accy and one caladoinia which both are halal meat users so its not a sthough there wa sany need for this move by kfc.I stopped using subway some time back because lancashire stores switched to halal meat which incidently brings me to ask why is it just lancashire that has these outlets switching to halal meat do we not have any whites in lancashire anymore or somthing .I think teh only fast food outlet localy that hasnt switched to halal meat is mcdonalds so i suppose with peopel avoiding kfc and not realy wanting to eat mcdonalds teh christian/white english will be eating more healthy lol
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Some people, of whatever colour, mightn't be religious at all. ;) |
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Come back at me by all means, but at least read my posts properly. |
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To an extent, the feeling of antipathy towards positive discrimination is beginning to get itself noticed and this KFC business is a case in point. An attempt to be seen to be faith-embracing and multicultural simply to impress a section of society that already buys their food has caused resentment among the non-Muslim customer base. I suspect that this little marketing ploy will ultimately not go down well with the majority, including Muslims who will be seen as the instigators. |
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Perhaps KFC are testing the waters based on the numerous other fried chicken businesses there are in the area. Around the Edgeware Road in London, which has a high Arab population, KFC has been halal for years. |
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I allways thought each KFC was a franchise individually owned and managed but operating to the KFC 'rulebook' , (similar to MacDonalds). Which explains the different "menus" and price differences between various outlets of the same chains .
KFC says use of halal meat to remain limited in U.S. – Nation’s Restaurant News seems there are one or two halal KFCs in the US |
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just wait until they feel the need to choose vegitarians over meat eaters and replace everything with quorn lol
i guess the only place safe from these PC do gooding idiots that feel they must cater for the minority is your local grease and spoon where there will be little chance of been handed a halal bacon butty. and the sauce of your choosing will be provided free as well :) edit: on a side not if KFC are merely pretending to be halal liek what is been suggested i hope they get their arses handed to them by teh way of huge fines because its one thing to go against the mojority of the nation but a whole new level of low telling a muslim whos trying to follow tehir faith that they are eating halal meat when they arnt just to make a few extra quid subway can swing i never cared much for their microwaved half pre cooked junk anyway :) |
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I never use KFC, McDonalds or Burger King, and Pizza Hut are now on my list of no-go dumps too.
As for who's being PC, it isn't KFC. As others have said, they are simply looking to boost profits. The bean counters and marketing people know very well who does and who doesn't use them. The fact that it has backfired so spectacularly is one good reason to smile! |
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So much for the "tide turning", eh, Ken? ;) |
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Discuss. |
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But I can't for the life of me understand why tolerance, understanding ... empathy if you wish .... has to be enforced. If it doesn't come naturally, grow out of the community, it isn't worth anything; and it won't work. |
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Lots of companies, including my own family's, choose to sell vegetarian options, because there is already a sizeable market, and it makes economic sense to cater to it, but there is no legislation that forces this upon anyone, and nor will this happen if, and when, the Bill becomes law. Vegans should be protected from discrimination, says equality watchdog - Telegraph |
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In the United Kingdom, "political correctness gone mad" is a widely-used catchphrase associated with the conservative Daily Mail newspaper.[16] A literal interpretation might be that the catchphrase applies to instances where political correctness, desirable in moderation, is taken too far. In reality, however, "political correctness" is almost used pejoratively and the catchphrase is applied to stories (frequently apocryphal) seen as representing extreme forms of political correctness [17] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness That made me laugh. I think the whole political corectness movement started out with good intentions, especially when it came to using non-offensive words for various ethnic groups. I think most of us would agree that some of the historical names used to describe people of African origin would be unacceptable today, and that's partly due to greater awareness, brought about by the politically correct movement, if it can be described as a movement. |
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'The code says the current definition of “belief” also included “a lack of belief”, giving protection to atheists. It adds: “It is for tribunals to determine what constitutes a religion. Cults and new religious movements may also be religions.' I suppose it would afford them the same rights if they were being bullied, or dismissed for their beliefs, and wanted to challenge their attackers, or employers, in the courts. |
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I've not seen Christmas banned. I've not been forced to do anything against my will. I'm sick of the Nanny State, but we've been under that for at least the last thirty years, and that's nothing to do with political correctness. Nanny Thatcher wasn't at all p.c. :rolleyes::D |
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I posted years ago how there was a backlash against political correctness, especially from the groups who were targeted as needing protection.
You certainly see this in the black and gay communities, who've embraced the words that were historically used against them, and also in the great number of comedians who are totally un-p.c. Many women have rejected politically correct names. |
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I'm not saying I agree, by the way, just pointing out this legislation seems to offer legal protection to vegetarians, so they aren't discriminated against, and doesn't mean that all food companies will be forced to cater for them, as you seemed to suggest. |
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Though most people today wouldn't find the terms they used acceptable. People are free to make fun of whatever they like, but the vast majority of people wouldn't find the terms coon, nigger etc, funny per se, it would depend on the context. |
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What I dislike about them is that if they turn up at your house you bend over backwards trying to make sure the food is of an edible type to them. You go to their house, you're offered nut cutlet, with a take it or leave it attitude. Should you accidentally cause a fop-as by moving the food about and asking were the bacon & egg is at? You better be prepared to duck, it's the only time the hostess will really be after blood, yours! :( |
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I'd be the last person to use any racist or homophobic terms, but to my mind, that's not the same as jokingly referring to somebody as a "treehugger". Perhaps I'm wrong and my vegan mate is secretly seething with resentment! :eek: |
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It won't stand up in court. 'Honest M'lud, I was just trying to enter my thoughts on her back.' :D |
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just to skip back a few posts before the polotics if a resturant was told to have a vegitarian option it is totaly different from what KFC has done because KFC has sneakily switched to halal meat and totaly withdrawn any other kind of meat and have totaly refused to cater for the people who were their origonal customers who probably wouldnt have eaten there ever if they had started trading with halal meat.If KFC had been a halal user from teh start and sneakily switched to traditional meat in the same way many muslims woudl have been uaware of the switch and would have been eating non halal meat and there would have been uproar.
well there would have been uproar from the muslim council because lets face it muslims were scoffing down kfc long before the switch :rolleyes: |
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Totally Agree!! I mite open one myself:D hahaha there is a few in Manchester nice ones an all!!! |
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hi everybody
there's no reason to suppose that Halaal-slaughtered meat (have you seen how it's done?) is any less offensive to the Muslim than the way the Jewish community kill their animals! (see how that's done) double question ''humane''??? question is ?? why the fuss - if you don't like the fare - stay away - it's the British way called democracy. KFC and their like have always been in for a fast buck, so where they see fit so will their policies - of course where there is a captive market you have to cater to that need and that determination will rule geographically : large Muslim community -GIVE EM halaal - Large Jewish - GIVE em kosher - and so on ----- Oh! blind faith - see what they are all missing with the erstwhile, humble, staple protein food of Ye Olde Englande -Mr Piggy!! nowt wrong with a pack of pork scratchings - where is the rationale behind all this - can't have this food because etc etc - please don't tell me it's of divine origin, it simply does not make sense - convince me otherwise!! it is time that the PC brigade came down from their ivory towers and gave the majority 'back' to the majority - it is STILL England - isn't it?? carry on then Martin |
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By the way, does the halal deep fried buzzard taste any different from the non-halal crap?
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Just seen there's a Facebook page of people who don't agree with the changes at Accy's KFC.
Login | Facebook Though you might have to be logged in to see it. |
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Whatever the ins and outs of faith it all boils down to a lifestyle choice and there's no getting away from it. None of us are born with preset programming to kill animals in a certain way, abstain from eating meat or only consume fruit which has dropped from the tree already. Having any lifestyle choice forced on us, particularly one that is not traditionally British, is always going to ruffle the feathers of the masses in this country. |
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