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Didn't know they flew to Helmshore Lynx?:D

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There are rumours ;) that a large military exercise is underway in the North Sea and it is due to end on 22nd.
Maybe the flight ban will be lifted then.

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Best one I heard today was: son's colleague been in Paris on business, had Eurostar ticket to get home, sold to rich desperate person for £1,000. He is now spending a week there on these proceedings. Company says can take this time as holiday leave which he is doing .. :cool:

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The 'rumour' I mentioned is fact - link found
France Sends 10 Ships, 30 Aircraft On NATO Exercise - Defense News
maybe they don't want spectators

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Well you know now cashy :rolleyes: :D

Nothing but the best for me

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Parts of Russia, and Poland, remain unaffected so far, because of the weather.

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so if crap weather is a plus were safe then,unless we get our 3 days of summer early that is :confused:

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Might be cut to two days this year.


'Volcanic activity affects not only land and sea, but the atmosphere as well. 1816 was known as the "Year without a Summer" following a powerful eruption of Mt. Tamboura in Indonesia a year earlier. The eruption of Krakatoa in Indonesia in July of 1883 produced similar effects worldwide. This great eruption was heard about 3,000 miles away. It produced sea waves almost 130 feet (40m.) high that drowned 36,000 people on nearby islands. There was a loss of 20-30% of direct solar radiation for three years after the eruption. That explosive eruption injected clouds of debris high into the stratosphere. Large volcanic eruptions like Krakatoa can cause short-term cooling of the climate by ejecting great quantities of dust, ash, carbon dioxide and sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere. Particles of sulfur dioxide in the volcanic dust can reduce the amount of incoming radiation, effectively cooling the upper atmosphere. When the particles of SO2 combine with water vapor, they produce sulfuric acid. Another consequence of some volcanic eruptions is therefore an increase in acid rain.
Brilliant sunsets and cooler summers followed the 1991 eruption of Mt. Pinatubo. The eruption of this Philippine volcano spewed about 15 million metric tons of sulfur dioxide gas into the atmosphere. The resulting aerosol cloud depressed the mean global temperature by some 0.5oC.'
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lol on a usa forum i am a member of all teh yanks are worring about 2012 so i told them to grab some red and blue glasses because this ones gonne be in 3D

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Things are looking a bit more positive this morning, got a message from a friend in Reykjavik........... he said that flights are being resumed this morning from there, hope that we won't be far behind, but fingers are still firmly crossed :D :D

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Volcanic activity didn't do much for the people of Pompeii either:D

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I have bits of it on my car and on the roof of the house .....and the sky over ossy looked well spooky last night ( and I was only drinking tea )

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Yes, i have started to notice it on cars, windows etc..............

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Spotting it on the car is one thing, whatever made you check your roof?

Only time to worry about that is when it's creaking under the strain, let's be honest before that happens margeretR will be on smiling about how she was right all along, we're,

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less magpies a cat burglar.:rofl38::rofl38:

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Shoooosh don't tell everybody:D

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Seems latest is flights will commence tomorrow morning from Scotland n Northern England, and will operate tomorrow evening from london, if our planes aint crashed. Southern Softies.:D

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Maybe not
BBC News - New volcano ash cloud prompts fresh flight doubts

I feel sure that they wont allow flights until they have finished their war game in the North Sea on 22nd.................we will see

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maybe all these folks stranded miles from 'home' should just sit back , take a deep breath and say to themselves "its the journey not the destination " ....... Blazey stuck in China could follow the old silk route home, following the steps of Marco Polo and get a better education about life than any book learning at Lancaster Uni (horrible Australian affectation) folk stuck in Greece could enable themselves of a ride on the Orient Express and see Europe as it really is . Travel can't really be that hard these days if 12 year old penniless refugees from Somalia or the Congo can make it to London with no problem ...

As one of my old British Passports (Blue hardback) states ......"Her Brittanic Majestys Principal Secretary of State ....requests and requires in the name of Her Majesty..to pass freely without let or hinderance and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as necessary" .
For some reason the above quote has been shortened in my red soft backed UK issued European Community passports . :D :D

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so it was volcanic ash mucking up my car and there was me thinking it was because i had driven through accy town center earlier that day :confused:

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If it really will be May before they can get a flight back, those stranded might be better going down to the docks, and see if it's possible to work their passage, on a slow boat from China.

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Do they get Emile Ford to serenade them too Garinda:D

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YouTube - Slow boat to China (cover)
Just in case you've forgot Emile, no he doesn't play for the Villa :D

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It is brave of Blazey to go to China alone, and commendable that she has not resorted to panic in a very difficult situation.

I would seek help from the nearest British embassy - that's what they are for.
They can pay out for repatriation expenses and recover that from you later.

Keep your chin up lass.

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It is a worry, and I too hope she's ok, and gets back very soon. However she's an adult, and went to China to further her education, which will hopefully help her career options. She's an intelligent young woman, and I have no doubt she'll use that intelligence to keep herself safe, just as she would wherever she was, even in this country.

There are young people who go off into the world for all sorts of reasons. Some to volunteer their services in countries with very real poverty, and some who risk/give their lives in the armed services, and some who travel just for the experience.

I'm sure how she was trapped in China, and how she coped, will make an interesting tale to tell her grandchildren.

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I bet that when she gets back she won't be celebrating by going for a chinky takeaway.

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Marching briskly, and singing a couple of rousing verses of This Old Man, you could be in Constantinople in a fortnight.


YouTube - Inn of Sixth Happiness, "This Old Man, He Played One" (1958)

:D

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Another snag the clouds reappeared not too many flights from UK airports today, thats on the 11am BBC news headlines

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Just checked the flight for tomorrow and still says it's flying on schedule, but just got to keep checking, can change any moment :rolleyes:

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Friend of ours should be flying to malaga tomoz mary, but she aint rung yet to say yes or no.:confused:

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It's starting to hack me off cashy, but they got to wait for the bloody government to say yes or no, and as usual they're getting it wrong :mad:

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My friends daughter is in Spain and should have flown back last weekend. They have been given the 28th as their new flight date

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This is one time when you realise the benefits of our flexible friends, the credirt cards.

Years ago people took cash and travellers cheques, with many coming home with just a few coppers in their pockets.

Being without any means to try and find transport, or accommodation and food, would be a true nightmare in this situation.

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just heard our friend has rung airline up, asking if can rebook fer later in year answer NO. they cannot tell her if her early flight tomoz is going or not, so up at silly o clock to ring cos only 4 hrs before can they tell her they say, then if going she has to sort out transport to airport etc etc, this is pathetic to me.:(

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There you go again Marge seeing conspiracies where there aren't any :) Back in 1993 we were involved in a Regatta in the Kieler Bucht heading to Denmark. Kiel is pretty much the home of the German Navy & in particular their Submarine fleet. The Yacht club was based inside the Base & we sailed out past the U-Boat pens, no issues.

At the same time there was a major NATO Naval exercise going on, Submarine Hunter/Killer teams were patrolling & the Navies had to locate them. Involved were the British, French, German & Danish Navies, not only did we sail through but various other Yachtsmen & women, not a peep. The only time we were herded was when a Sub had been detected & it was about to make an emergency breach to the surface, we were shepherded out of the danger area.

On our return leg we were followed in by a Sub with just its conning tower sticking out of the Sea, a rather awe inspiring & intriguing sight & again not a peep from anyone. Sometimes there really are just genuine reasons for certain things. :)

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I bet their 31 aircraft weren't grounded,:rolleyes:
and why didn't the mainstream news tell us about it?
Too much secrecy causes suspicion.

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thing is though i reckon Lynx n our Friend have chosen wrong destination, if they had booked Afghanistan they would be on their merry ways, Fact, as a family member just left today.:)

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People have took some lovely snaps of the ships taking part in exercise Brilliant Mariner, from passing boats and other ships in the area, which is open to other vessels.

Brilliant Mariner: any pics?

'Cooperation with Operation Active Endeavour forces provides for the safe and secure movement of vessels at sea and reduces the time spent on inspections at sea and ashore. This is an important contribution to the peace, stability and security of all nations and peoples in the area'
NATO Shipping Centre (numnwsvwb2): NATO Shipping Centre (NSC)

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There's plenty of information, and a few more snaps on here.

Certainly a few more details than you'd see out of a little plane window at 30,000 feet.

Brilliant Mariner Home Page

:rolleyes::D

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Thanks for taking the trouble to find that.
It just shows how much news the BBC and Sky ignore when they decide to treat media persons lives as 'news' instead

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I think we could be alright at this end but i feel sorry for the other end were it is.

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All UK airports are supposedly (sp) re-opening again at 10pm tonight.

BBC News - UK airports set to reopen

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Icelands ok mallard, they been flying in and out of it all day.:)

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Just checked status of our flight for tomorrow and it is scheduled, so looks like I'm off on holiday as planned..........YES :D :D

Suppose I better get some sleep, setting off at 4 am for the airport

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hope ya do lynx have a good un.:)

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Thanks cashy, gonna try my best :D

Didn't manage the sleep but never mind I can sleep on the plane :D

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no amount of volcanic ash can stop our boy's..keep yer spirits up! ;)
YouTube - Battle Of Britain Music video

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slight wander ......... For some reason remember back to when I was a kid and she was featured on the Eamon Andrews show "This is your Life" a time when the BBC used to report on folks who had done something with their life , unlike todays plastic enhanced celebutards .

for some reason I allways thought Deborah Kerr played that role :confused: before she moved to Siam
was surprised to see Ingrid Bergman in the role, Guess Dietrich wasnt available , ( note to self ... go rent it) :D

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Always good to know you Canadian boy's are on our side Steeljack. :)..;)

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It was one of the first films Bergman made after returning to Hollywood, after being exiled for ten years, because of her afair with Rossellini.

You must watch it.

It's a good film.

When asked what I wanted to do when I was about six or seven, this is the reason why I used to reply 'a missionary'.

Odd that I should be doing just that here, all these years later.

:D

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Iceland volcano: Lord Adonis admits flight ban was 'too cautious' | Mail Online
Oh Hum:rolleyes:

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You know when Lord Adonis is lying, it's when he opens his mouth.

Truth is no one seems to really know what is and is not safe. The airlines don't want to make the decision in case they are wrong and get sued, same for the aircraft manufacturers so it is down to governments to sort it out.

I just hope that it is the right decision and that the cloud has now dispersed enough for it to be safe for air travel.
The last thing we need is a aircraft making a no engine landing.
I for one will be revising the Boeing 737 'Loss of Thrust on Both Engines' checklist before I head back to the sun this weekend, hoping I will not need it.
Be safe everyone.
BG

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Disagree about it being governments decision boeing guy, presume most of em know next to sod all about science n air safety etc etc, they can only go off people who are much more knowledgeable in that field.:confused:

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Fair point Cashy, maybe I should have said Civil Servants, NATS (National Air Traffic Services), The CAA (Campaign Against Aviation, sorry Civil Aviation Authority) and the MET office.
Not to mention the 26 planes BA sent asking for clearance to land.
Willie Walsh Criticises UK No-fly Zone: Planes Flying After BA Boss Plays Game Of Brinkmanship | UK News | Sky News

I really do hope they have got their sums right, after all it it all goes wrong the pilots, cabin crew and passengers pay the price.

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Martin, I prefer Steve Miller Band, Jet Airliner

YouTube - Steve Miller Band Live From Chicago Jet Airliner

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One good thing to come outa all this- We got shuta Lynx.:D

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Not sure if anyone has seen these shots taken in Iceland pretty impressive
More from Eyjafjallajokull - The Big Picture - Boston.com

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Yep she got her flight OK i got a text off her they had landed safely :)
so for the next few days its a cheap round in the railway:tongueout

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ironic that a half pint drinks pints isnt it :D

i should be safe by the time she gets back this thread will be long dead lol :)

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unless everyone turns up at the railway .. :D:D:D

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oui tres bien Mr Boeing

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Hi Spider
also remember that work is for people that don't know how to play golf:)
Mart

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There was a docu-drama thing on Channel 5 last night about a similar thing in 1982.

I missed the ending but at least I now know what St Elmo's Fire is!

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Heard from Mick in the Railway she is also going to transalvania, Dracula must be crapping himself.:D

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yes Ken
pity you missed the ending
the plane crashed on the East side of the Appenines where they buried the survivors:(

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Ya he'll have is cross out and be rubbing garlic all round his doors and windows:rolleyes::D

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I do humbly apologise to those that took offence to my flippant remarks about the euthanasia flight - It's no excuse - but I add this footnote to perhaps? absolve myself -
The Development of a Sense of Humor in a Young Child During Psychoanalysis - Journal of Infant, Child, and Adolescent Psychotherapy

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I don't have the time to read back through the thread to find the point where people responded to my situation.

Unfortunately I can't fly anywhere as I have to still complete my university work. I can't be granted extensions without signing a piece of paper apparently. Very helpful. So yeah, I have 6,000 words on trademark law to write by Friday. Best get cracking. Fortunately Shanghai can be a pretty cheap place to live. I'm only paying £5.50 a night and the staff speak English and are honest. The woman at the desk accidentally charged me a night longer than she was meant to yesterday, and although she is meant to be kicking us all out then because the hostel is booked up for Shanghai Expo, she is letting me stay rather than refunding me the money.

I'm stressed out as you can imagine, but this is because I am struggling to access the right sources to complete my work here, not because I'm stuck in China. China is an amazing country to be in.

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Also, I no longer have my passport as the Chinese police have it for my visa extension request, so I'm not going anywhere until I have that back!

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Thats good to see, she told me she was worried she would not get away

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Blazey, best of luck with your university work. I hope you get it in by Friday:Banane19:

Try to enjoy your extra time, I know it can be hard when you are cash strapped. I am sure everything will work out in the end. I know this is probably no use now, but did you register with the embasy in China, they might be able to help.
In a year or so you will look back and laugh.
Safe travelling
BG:banlama:

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I'm enjoying my extra time here, learning some more of the language casually from the staff here at the hostel. I'm not treating this trip as being cash strapped either because I do have my student loan and the uni are going to help me out financially when I get home. As for laughing, I'm still laughing now. It's a good trip and China is amazing. Just a bit stressed over my work but I'm a hard worker and it will get done one way or another. Just need to persevere and look after my health, both physically and mentally.

And this will be an amazing story to tell when I am older I'm sure. I don't think the embassies can help me that much now, I've sorted out everything that needs to be sorted like my visa and somewhere to stay. Now I just have to get on with it.

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I'm back now. Got back on Thursday morning. They lost my luggage and it still hasn't been returned to me.

But I am glad to be back, even if I have nothing to show for it but £500 of extra debt.

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Glad your back safe and sound blazey

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Glad yer back n ok blaze, check yer insurance loss of luggage,;) hope ya sort it.

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Nice to see you back again, Blazey. Hope your luggage turns up soon.

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glad you got back safe and sound .. £500 isnt too bad .. couple of friends of mine were stuck in india .. they had to fork out £1400 to get back home. Hope you get your luggage back safe and sound ..

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Glad you are home safe - how about a blog entry for us - share any unusual experience with us please.:)

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He must have heard that I would be there cashy......he had done a runner :D :tongueout

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I don't blame him :p:D

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:tongueout :tongueout

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They paid to get home? They're mugs then. My airline covered the flight expense. My expenses were just from food and accommodation and everything else that goes with being stuck in a city that you haven't actually spent any time in/

Yes, I might do when I get a decent chance and I'm not tied up with work. Probably in a few days.

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They didnt have a choice .. they were offered a flight home on 23rd .. they said yes .. then the airline said that was a no go .. and offered them a flight home at the end of this coming week!!! because the airline only flies out there once a week and wasnt putting any extra flights on. They had to get back one is at university and the other works full time ..

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seems its knackered Ireland up now, Flights cancelled tomoz,:eek: shame really it wasnt a few days earlier n oer england, woulda kept Lynx outa the railway.:D

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Well im just hoping it dont close our airports again before Sat or my lads stuck on his hols which means I,ll be landed with his beloved Dog for another week lol!!!

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Same here cherokee my other half is due back from Spain on Sunday

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scotland and northern ireland are shut tomorrow from 7am

BBC News - Airspace to close in new ash risk

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Today has been cancelled there will be two tomorrows:rolleyes:

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It’s a bit early for Iceland volcano jokes. We should wait awhile for the dust to settle.

I see that America has declared war on Iceland. Apparently they are accusing them of harbouring a “weapon of ash eruption”.

It was the last wish of the Icelandic economy that its ashes be scattered over Europe.

Iceland goes bankrupt, then it manages to set itself on fire. This has insurance scam written all over it.

"Waiter, there's volcanic ash in my soup." "I know, it's a no-fly zone."

Iceland's Government was to reimburse the British Government 75 percent of the compensation it paid to the British deposit holders in Icelandic banks. The British Government paid out CASH; it didn't expect the reimbursement of 3/4 of that to be ASH.
:D:D

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For once I agree with you cashy............would much rather be there than here, and a few extra days would have been great :tongueout

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its now hit spain .. they've shut their airports ..

BBC News - Volcanic ash cloud shuts Spanish airports

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Don't care any more.........I'm back home so why should anyone else have an extended holiday? :(

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I do Lynx Joan's checked in at a Spanish Airport and her flight has been delayed by an hour already, I've just received a text:(

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Hope she gets back soon jaysay.........must be horrible not knowing how long she will be stuck........

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A lot of Spanish airports were closed yesterday, I know because I was 34000 feet above them. Most of the airspace in Europe seems okay at the moment, just got back to Casablanca from Paris, right over Spain. Hope they all got back

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Wasn't to bad in the end LYNX, she got home two hours late thats all

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Being back in horrible. Exams are crippling me with such a hard hit to my revision time. I should've never come home!

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Can't argue wi that.:D