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Looks like a "hung parliament" heading your way ... we prefer the term "minority government" .... Canadians are quite content with having a minority government ... as it looks like you guys may be getting one, maybe it's time to look at the advantages ... our system of government is very similar to yours, and we don't seem to see the necessity to have one party so dominant that it does what the hell it wants for four or five years. Having a powerful opposition does tend to keep the government honest ... well, at least as honest as is possible when you are talking politicians. It would be nice to see Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition and the folks they represent as being more than a cipher.
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first result sunderland.... 8.4 % swing to tories. Low turnout, though - only 55%. If that's repeadtd in Hyndburn, then Buckley gets it. But Sunderlands a very safe Labour seat
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Anyway, 2nd result coming up. Did everyone manage to vote in Hyndburn? There is going to be some real fun over the polling booths shutting bang on ten with queues still round the block. |
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And the question of membership in the EU maybe a non-issue as it looks like the EU might just self destruct. |
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Yeah, Eric...you're right. One common factor amongst all the parties here is that none of 'em spelt out the real measures to be faced in expenditure cuts.
I dunno if the EU will self destruct....but certainly the Euro is going south. 2nd Sunderland seat ...11.6 % swing to Tories. The Labour winner is ugly as sin. She should be wearing a burka. |
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anyone know what time the Hyndburn results are usually announced ?
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Aye....I dunno where the count is now. is it the Sports Centre?
Anyway, the first results suggest a recount in Hyndburn. Oh Dear. looks like we're in for a long night. I should have got more beer in. |
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I don't bet, but my predictions are that Graham Jones will win Hyndburn, with a reduced majority, and for the Conservatives just to scrape a workable majority in Westminster.
Brown isn't wanted. |
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You staying up? I'm not. My days of bumping and grinding to Things Can Only Get Better, down at the South Bank are long over. :D |
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In view of what seems to be a swing to the Tories in the North-East wonder if the Hyndburn Tories are regretting their actions in withdrawing their support for local candidate :eek: :eek:
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I'll stay up to about the 100th seat declared, probably about 2am which is when I'll run out of beer (Thwaites Bomber, if you must know...£1.42 a bottle at Wapping Waitrose). |
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It's too difficult to predict a swing in two constituencies with such massive majorities. Lots of people there must feel disenfranchised, and that how they vote won't make any difference to the result, within these artifical political boundaries. People must feel, of all parties, that it's a foregone conclusion, as witnesed by the turn-out, which was about 55%. Meaning 45% of people didn't bother. |
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Waitrose in the East End, how very gentrified. :rolleyes: I'll listen until about two, but can't be doing with all the new jiggery-pokery, computer graphics, that are instead of the old swing-o-meter, which was probably knocked up in a basement at the Beeb, by a Blue Peter runner. |
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Sunderlands had a low turnout presumably because they are safe labour seats. I suspect the turnout will be far higher in most seats, especially marginals. But there is going to be alot of legal stuff going on now over people not being able to vote.
I had to queue this morning for 10 minutes; not because of a large number of people voting, but because there were only three people manning the polling station - usually its at least twice that. |
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If this means extremist parties win seats, so be it. Perhaps the main stream parties will then address the issues that mean people turn to the far right/left. |
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slight wander ... question, have any areas in the UK tried using electronic voting machines?
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No, you still have to queue, tell some dodderer your number, and take your slip into the booth, and make a mark with a stubby pencil. Since there's always calls that the postal votes are rigged, and there are lots of secured things done on the internet, why we can't vote online is open to question. I'm suprised we can't text a vote. Britain's Got Politics Grand Final. |
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Interestingly Labour have held Dundee east, which was a big target of the S.N.P. reckon its gonna be a long night, so cashys sodding off to bed.:)
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No , wasn't having a laugh , we had them for a while , then it was decided there had to be a "hard copy" in case of a recount , kind of defeated the whole idea . :D
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Aye, but they have taxes in Canada too. But then again they don't have Gordon Brown.
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Slips were colllected unsigned, and taken away to 'be filled in later', by helpful party workers. Oldham was a case in point, on the news the other day. Allegations have surfaced here in the past. 'The claims centre around Accrington’s Central ward, which Allah Dad held for the Conservatives against two other Asian candidates on a huge turnout of nearly 60 per cent.' Cops probe vote rig complaints - Accrington Observer |
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He's the one with thugs for sons. Crime role for dad of violent attackers - The Asian News |
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Oh dear...it makes you wonder if we really live in a democracy any more.
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Ok ive been here for a bit a few accywebbers here, claytonender, bernard, expatriate wagstaff just some to mention. Havent startd to count the votes yet. So could be a while yet.
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Why has the count not started? Surely all the boxes should be in by now?
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Because in some polling stations there was only 1 box with 2 elections so they had to split the votes and verify em before the count begins. Wont be long now theyre sealing the local election boxes so the count will eventually begin. I'l do my best to keep you informd.
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Havent the foggiest. You'll have to ask the councillors that question. Probably the electoral officer though. Anyway theyve startd counting about 15 mins ago.
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Finished! You want to know who won? Or do i make you wait for the declaration? Bernard says graemes won.
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go on then...
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If he has won, Congratulations to him:). At least he is local and knows what it's like living around here.
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BBC journalist says there's a recount at Hyndburn - not because anyone is running Labour close, but because the votes don't appear to tally up. + Lib Dem gain in Burnley :) |
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surprise surprise.
only in hyndburn. |
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Labour hold in Blackburn......Jack Straw re elected
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Labour hold in Hyndburn.
Just waiting for results from the count. |
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is there a link anywhere showing how each ward voted
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There you go steeljack, see post above yours: http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/g...tml#post812882
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im home ...:D:D:D
im knackered :D:D::D i had problems the battery was going on my fone .. so i couldnt post that there was a recount .. the votes didnt tally up .. they'd counted some twice ... |
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Janet Anderson has lost Rossendale & Darwen to the Tories. 8.9% swing.
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oh and by the way .. Councillor Peter Britcliffe wasnt seen at the count .. even though he is Hyndburn's Council Leader.
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they dont count them in wards steeljack .. they just empty the boxes and count the votes. There is the local election count later on today .. thats in wards. |
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poor peter - must b seething at home
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Well I would like to congratulate Graham, and well fought with your usual passion :D
Remember what I said on Saturday, I want to hear you shouting from those back benches :p |
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And don't know how to find out the ward results but would like to thank Ciaran Wells for taking the time to approach my son and say thanks for the support. Hope you got in Ciaran
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Welcome to the wonderful world of minority government;) It's not all that bad; Canada went through the recession with a minority government; and, economically, we are doing just fine and dandy.:theband: (It would be even better if certain members of the EU were not such economic basket cases.)
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Have the council election results been announced?
I can't find them yet. |
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Starting the local election count today at 1.30.
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Thanks.
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63.8% of voters do not want a Conservative government, yet that party will be in power. Some democracy we have.
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Absolutely cashy. It just grates that still the powers that be still will not budge as far as electoral reform is concerned.
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I have a feeling that before to long we will be doing all this again(groan)
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Oh..botherations!
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In this thread Steeljack asked about electronic voting (as they do in USA).
It is a fact that vote rigging is easier when electronic voting is used. Today an example of what looks like a 'leak' happened when Google published results of the Maine election before the vote count ended. - see thumbnails below One pic shows the result (with the page of the time overlaying it), and the other shows the rapidly following correction. PS look at the second thumnail 1st |
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I've seen the image you posted without the clock covering the numbers of votes. If those numbers were true, turnout would be more than double the 2008 Maine caucus. Not impossible but not likely. It's more likely Google made a mistake or perhaps an engineer was testing. Either way it has nothing to do with electronic voting. |
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It will be interesting to see whether the actual end result will match the 'test' result .
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The problem is, this was on one of Margaret's trusted sites, I too goggled this and found out that Google regularly test, this is just that.
However there is always the other possibility, some one Photoshoped it, which to me is more likely. So just like the North Korean non story, recently proposed the same member, non event. again. I am glad I bought Amero's when I did |
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