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g jones 03-05-2010 23:07

Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
I was contacted tonight by very concerned residents in my area who have met with Karen Buckley, Conservative PPC for Hyndburn earlier in the evening. I believed Karen was a decent person. However it seems Mrs Buckley is prepared to make several empty promises in return for votes.

Mrs Buckley's Promise No.1
If elected as MP she will do up the roads in Accrington South.
FACT
Roads are resurfaced by Lancashire County Council and an MP has little or no say. Each area's roads are done through consultation with the County Councillor for the area and engineers. I am the County Councillor for Accrington South and it is my responsibility to decide with engineers.

Mrs Buckley's Promise No.2
If elected as MP she has said she will re-open the Islamic teaching centre at 37a Beech Street
FACT
This centre was closed because it breached planning conditions which are dealt with by the Planning Committee at Hyndburn Borough Council. As MP, Karen has no say over planning matters which are legal and not arbitrary anyway. It was turned down unanimously, cross party by the committee. It shows again a complete lack of understanding of local government or local feelings as fellow Conservative, Councillor Paul Barton, led the 2 year campaign to close it and will not be pleased his own Party is promising to re-open it in his ward.

Mrs Buckley's Promise No.3
If elected as MP she will get housing grants for people in Barnfield on the Sandy Lane side.
FACT
Regeneration decisions are made by the District Council and not by an MP. Mrs Buckley would have no say. Further, this area is not even in the Council's 7 years plans (which is Woodnook/Peel) and no-one has supported it as a regeneration area. A Conservative Government has said it would cut it regeneration monies anyway to Hyndburn Council so should Mrs Buckley win, she would have an adverse effect on funding. She has clearly not read her manifesto and as someone who has said she supports cuts, her position is contradictory. The only grant scheme on the Sandy Lane side is my own Home Front (Lottery) scheme for doors, windows, gutters which residents are aware of.

Mrs Buckley's Promise No.4
If elected as MP she get a community centre at Peel House
FACT
As County Councillor and Ward Councillor I have taken the lead role in dealing with Peel House. The PCT have stated they want to use it as PCT offices and have refused to sell it the Council (bought with ELEVATE money) for the time being despite The Council on my behalf making enquiries. Elevate money appears to be drying up and as above, the Conservative manifesto on housing has said it would effectively cut funding to northern housing schemes. Mrs Buckley's win would there make it almost certain she could not deliver her promise.

Again regeneration is a Council matter and not a matter that an MP can decide so her influence would be minimal. Being in the heart of Peel Ward it would have been helpful if Mrs Buckley had explained her proposals to others in the area as resident (and ironically me as Councillor) involvement will be paramount.

For a politician to have so little understanding, to jump in two footed with undeliverable promises is very poor indeed. Karen lost a safe Conservative County Council seat last year and I can see people here getting very upset with her too.

cashman 03-05-2010 23:23

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Doubt if its little understanding, more like Down right Lying to me.:rolleyes:

accyman 04-05-2010 00:09

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if only she had been a local lass she may have known more about local issues lol

looks like her advisors have been spoon fed some bullcrap facts its as though local tories who resent her standing for the area have sabotaged her by feeding her supporters toal crap lol

surely you cant accidently get things sooo wrong lol

now jaysay have you been advising this poor lass lol :D

jaysay 04-05-2010 07:12

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Think it must be evens Graham, I've read your 8 page diatribe of a news letter:rolleyes:

Ken Moss 04-05-2010 11:02

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 812251)
Doubt if its little understanding, more like Down right Lying to me.:rolleyes:

It's no different at local level either. The Conservative leaflet (which I believe is a generic grit bin-hugging photo opportunity for all ward candidates rather than individually tailored) is riddled with promises that they won't be able to deliver on, plus the rather spurious lie that it was the government that caused the grit shortage last year.

If that is true then why were we borrowing grit from other councils that had stocked up to capacity well in advance? Hyndburn Council were advised of that scenario as early as August and could have prevented much of the chaos over Christmas by spending the comparatively measly amount on getting us up to capacity.

anzac 04-05-2010 11:53

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 812270)
Think it must be evens Graham, I've read your 8 page diatribe of a news letter:rolleyes:

Is that the newsletter that uses the "I" word in every other sentence.
Must admit I read it and thought it was a disgraceful piece of bull from front to back.

jaysay 04-05-2010 14:45

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Originally Posted by anzac (Post 812292)
Is that the newsletter that uses the "I" word in every other sentence.
Must admit I read it and thought it was a disgraceful piece of bull from front to back.

That's the one anzac, 8 pages of it, Graham, I have a Dream, Jones, the great white hope, savior of the universe before breakfast, founder member of narcissists are us:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 04-05-2010 17:05

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I don't get it.......what else do you expect?
The leaflets provided by Graham Jones(and others) are to promote himself and the party....to maximise his chance of being elected.......do you think he would be doing himself any favours if he didn't 'big' himeslf up.
If he doesn't put forward the idea that he is up to the job, then he isn't going to instil any confidence in his electorate.

You don't catch any fish if you don't put a worm on the end of the hook.

anzac 04-05-2010 17:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 812322)
I don't get it.......what else do you expect?
The leaflets provided by Graham Jones(and others) are to promote himself and the party....to maximise his chance of being elected.......do you think he would be doing himself any favours if he didn't 'big' himeslf up.
If he doesn't put forward the idea that he is up to the job, then he isn't going to instil any confidence in his electorate.

You don't catch any fish if you don't put a worm on the end of the hook.

The leaflet was nothing to do with the general election it was his newsletter. He has already been elected to do the job so why not just get on with it instead of the usual "What lies the Tories are telling about me " garbage that it is full of

cashman 04-05-2010 18:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anzac (Post 812328)
The leaflet was nothing to do with the general election it was his newsletter. He has already been elected to do the job so why not just get on with it instead of the usual "What lies the Tories are telling about me " garbage that it is full of

Dont get that?:confused: would be garbage if it was untrue, do ya know if Fact Or Fiction? if not then you must be talking garbage.

katex 04-05-2010 18:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anzac (Post 812328)
The leaflet was nothing to do with the general election it was his newsletter. He has already been elected to do the job so why not just get on with it instead of the usual "What lies the Tories are telling about me " garbage that it is full of

I find that Graham is extremely good at local levels and I think I am going to switch my allegiance to Labour this time out, however, being an MP is not about local levels .. national levels, and this worries me a little that he will not be able to zip his mouth occasionally and think with his heart not his brain. Still feel though he has a leaning to the country and not just to the 'I' so I expect to put a cross against his name on Thursday.

As to Anzac's statement "What the Tories are telling about me" .. did you see the letter in the Observer from Karen Buckley as to 'What the Labourites are saying about us' ? Accusing Labour propaganda that if they vote Conservative their lives will be put at risk by cancer sufferers, due to the fact that Labour will cut NHS spending and cancer drugs will be hard to come by. Think her time would have been better spent using the 'I' and promoting herself.

Well, I suspect anyway that cuts will be made in the largest public spending section even if the 'Cons' get in. They are not going to say at this stage though are they, in case they lose a few votes.

Tit for tat eh ?

accyman 04-05-2010 19:21

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lmao at a tory having the audacity to slate labour about the NHS they realy have got a nerve considering it was teh torys that nearly ended our nhs system.Labour have improved the NHS 100x and more since getting into power.Its not perfect now but i gurentee you that if teh torys had stayed in power we woudlnt have a NHS system today.

i forgert the name of the high ranking tory involved but towards teh end of their last reign of terror my friend raised money and bought a baby incubator for queens park hospital as a thankyou for teh work they did caring for his very premature son.Upon revisiting the ward he was given back his plaque that was attatched to the incubator he bought the hospital because a tory from down south sent orders for it to be removed and sent to her local hospital and wasnt happy with having any old baby incubator she wanted the brand new one so teh plaque was removed and the incubator sent down south.

thats torys for you and thats why they will never get my vote they dont give a crap about teh north and never will infact cameron is on record as saying it is a terrible place so how anyone can vote for this moron who lives up north is beyond me

katex 04-05-2010 23:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 812334)

Accusing Labour propaganda that if they vote Conservative cancer sufferers lives will be put at risk, due to the fact that Conservatives will cut NHS spending and cancer drugs will be hard to come by.

Sorry, got that a bit wrong, amendment as above... :rolleyes:

Mancie 04-05-2010 23:32

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The tories will cut or abolish working tax credit within 2 years and they do not deny it.. this is one of the prime objectives if they are to secure the spending cuts they talk about.. I've never been a fan of tax credits but I now realise they are the main stay to make working families better off rather than on benifits.. the tories and the liberals will destroy this bacis relief for families.

harwood red 05-05-2010 00:18

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I know my son was shown this, he will be voting for the first time and is proud of the fact too

but he was wetting himself laughing at it

(sorry had to remove link due to the language - shame as I was enjoying it :D )

accyman 05-05-2010 01:52

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yep that video pretty much captures everything the torys are about.

god help anyone who gets seriously ill under their rule and dosnt have private health care because one of teh torys ways of saving money will be to let people die waiting for treatment just like they did the last time they were in power .

myounis 05-05-2010 13:31

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Readers of this forum need to be aware of the truth of what Conservative candidate Mrs Karen Buckley did or did not say at this meeting. The topics you refer to did come up in conversation at a meeting of local Asian men that I arranged, but at no point did she make any false promises. She set out her priorities for the constituency if elected and listened to the concerns of those present. She made it quite clear that she would hold regular local surgeries and would be willing to take up issues of concern whether they be relating to the neighbourhood watch scheme, gave her support to the suggestion of a community centre to benefit the residents and especially the youngsters.
Mrs Buckley comes across as an intelligent and articulate woman and knows full well the responsibilities of an MP and those of a councillor like yourself.
Graham, you weren't there at the meeting. I was, and there were others present who will confirm what I have said. If your source would like to contradict that I was at this meeting when he spoke to Mrs Buckley, then let him come forward and explain in person. Otherwise I suggest you make sure you get some additional evidence before making wild and misleading statements calculated to damage your opponent. They reflect badly upon yourself. County Councillor Mohammed Younis

jaysay 05-05-2010 14:58

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What Graham trying to mislead the electorate:eek::eek::eek::eek:

lancsdave 05-05-2010 15:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by myounis (Post 812428)
Readers of this forum need to be aware of the truth of what Conservative candidate Mrs Karen Buckley did or did not say at this meeting. The topics you refer to did come up in conversation at a meeting of local Asian men that I arranged, but at no point did she make any false promises. She set out her priorities for the constituency if elected and listened to the concerns of those present. She made it quite clear that she would hold regular local surgeries and would be willing to take up issues of concern whether they be relating to the neighbourhood watch scheme, gave her support to the suggestion of a community centre to benefit the residents and especially the youngsters.
Mrs Buckley comes across as an intelligent and articulate woman and knows full well the responsibilities of an MP and those of a councillor like yourself.
Graham, you weren't there at the meeting. I was, and there were others present who will confirm what I have said. If your source would like to contradict that I was at this meeting when he spoke to Mrs Buckley, then let him come forward and explain in person. Otherwise I suggest you make sure you get some additional evidence before making wild and misleading statements calculated to damage your opponent. They reflect badly upon yourself. County Councillor Mohammed Younis


Maybe Mrs Buckley may have picked up a few votes if she had come and explained all that herself :rolleyes:

Ken Moss 05-05-2010 16:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by myounis (Post 812428)
Readers of this forum need to be aware of the truth of what Conservative candidate Mrs Karen Buckley did or did not say at this meeting. The topics you refer to did come up in conversation at a meeting of local Asian men that I arranged, but at no point did she make any false promises. She set out her priorities for the constituency if elected and listened to the concerns of those present. She made it quite clear that she would hold regular local surgeries and would be willing to take up issues of concern whether they be relating to the neighbourhood watch scheme, gave her support to the suggestion of a community centre to benefit the residents and especially the youngsters.
Mrs Buckley comes across as an intelligent and articulate woman and knows full well the responsibilities of an MP and those of a councillor like yourself.
Graham, you weren't there at the meeting. I was, and there were others present who will confirm what I have said. If your source would like to contradict that I was at this meeting when he spoke to Mrs Buckley, then let him come forward and explain in person. Otherwise I suggest you make sure you get some additional evidence before making wild and misleading statements calculated to damage your opponent. They reflect badly upon yourself. County Councillor Mohammed Younis

Cllr Younis, I applaud you for being the only elected Conservative member to grace this forum with your views as it provides balance to debates. It is regrettable that it has only occurred the night before the elections as it may have allowed your party a better opportunity to put forward its views.

However, Ms Buckley is utterly reliant on advice in order to know Hyndburn to any sort of degree required to be an MP and I'm afraid that token gestures across the borough over the past six weeks are not enough. I personally feel rather sorry for a lady who has been helicoptered in at the eleventh hour and then received no support from the local party until quite late in the day.

The entire Conservative campaign in Hyndburn has been run on rather flimsy promises and attacks on the opposition so I would not take this as a personal attack on Ms Buckley, more on the advice she is being given.

steeljack 05-05-2010 17:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by myounis (Post 812428)
Readers of this forum need to be aware of the truth of what Conservative candidate Mrs Karen Buckley did or did not say at this meeting. The topics you refer to did come up in conversation at a meeting of local Asian men that I arranged, but at no point did she make any false promises................ County Councillor Mohammed Younis

just curious , did she also hold a separate meeting for "independent minded" local Asian women ? :confused:

DaveinGermany 05-05-2010 17:49

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Mr. Younis further to "Steeljacks" question, I & I'm sure others here would be interested in your views on some of the other threads on this web site, in particular those geared towards "Muslim attitudes". It can't have escaped your notice that there are some very strong emotions in play when certain topics arise.

At present the "Ban on the Burkha" features prominently in quite a few European Countries, with the majority of those countries electorate endorsing this law. How do you personally view this subject ( I am presuming you are of the Muslim faith), do you expect your female Kith & Kin to abide by this affectation or are you more liberal ?

g jones 05-05-2010 19:30

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Mr Younis.

I wish you well but you also promised 20mph zone, humps and one way at that meeting.

Can I say as County Councillor it is unhelpful that Mrs Buckley with yourself seem to be of the opinion that you can wade into an area where the local county councillor has things in hand and begin setting a different agenda for votes.

As MP these are not maters you have any control over.

At last nights second meeting another resident confirmed from another conversation that you and Mrs Buckley were promising grants and he was frightened just how many promises were being made.

localad 05-05-2010 20:39

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Graham

Karen Buckley did not promise anything, she clearly stated that she will try to help us with our local cllrs on the above issues. All the above is incorrect as I was at that meeting with the local residents.

You were asked by local residents to explain your policies are and if you were elected what you could do regarding our local issues aswell as national issues.

You at the meeting did not win any votes my making the above comments.

Localad

cashman 05-05-2010 20:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by localad (Post 812520)
Graham

Karen Buckley did not promise anything, she clearly stated that she will try to help us with our local cllrs on the above issues. All the above is incorrect as I was at that meeting with the local residents.

You were asked by local residents to explain your policies are and if you were elected what you could do regarding our local issues aswell as national issues.

You at the meeting did not win any votes my making the above comments.

Localad

Find it very odd that you n Mr Younis have crawled outa yer pits joined n made comments on the eve of the election?:confused: be interesting to see if ya remain active members around here, would hope so, but won't be putting any money on it.:rolleyes:

lancsdave 05-05-2010 21:05

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And they wonder why the British public has a lot of apathy towards voting :rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 05-05-2010 21:19

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I don't think it is just apathy. I think many of the electorate are disillusioned with all the political parties.
I don't really think the televised debates did them any favours either........it made it more about personalities than policies.
I am still waiting to hear which party can tell us truthfully how we are going to get out of the mess that this government has left us in.

We all realise that we are in for some financial pain, some tough measures, some unpopular policies.........but would someone give us and idea of how much pain, and for how long?

cashman 05-05-2010 21:30

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very odd, localad has read onwards in the thread n then done one.:rolleyes: call me n owd cynic.:rolleyes: is this another 1 post wonder, i ask meself? pmsl.

Wynonie Harris 05-05-2010 21:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 812528)
We all realise that we are in for some financial pain, some tough measures, some unpopular policies.........but would someone give us and idea of how much pain, and for how long?

Not a chance, Marg...until they get into No 10. There's probably some good people at local level in all three parties, but the ones at the top are liars, charlatans and knaves...and that's putting it diplomatically! ;)

Margaret Pilkington 05-05-2010 21:40

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so it must be the atmospere in the 'smoke' that corrupts them then......Yes, I agree, there are some good local people, but the party rules them so that they lose their local identity, and I think perhaps they may actually forget that they are down in that big city to represent our little town and its' needs

cashman 05-05-2010 21:41

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 812452)
Maybe Mrs Buckley may have picked up a few votes if she had come and explained all that herself :rolleyes:

Think that may be a bit unfair Dave, Karens probably been too busy House Hunting.:rolleyes::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Tim Ashton 05-05-2010 22:04

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I know Karen Buckley personally and can guarantee that she will make an excellent MP for Hyndburn. I cant say the same for Graham Jones who is running a very negative campaign. the only problem is that we'll have to put up with him for another 3 years at county hall if he is not elected as MP and one year was bad enough!

As for Karen's promises I am sure she will be able to work with and influence local government to secure the best outcomes for the local people.

Tim Ashton

shakermaker 05-05-2010 22:21

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There is an overwhelming stench of cuprinol around these parts, what with all the politicos crawling out of the woodwork. :rolleyes:

accyman 05-05-2010 22:22

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oh aye up not only is camron runnin about the country trying to rally votes through the night but now his minions have invade the internet and finaly made it to accrington web

too little too late theres been plenty of time and opportunity for buckley and her supporters if any to come here and introduce themselves to the most read local website with thousands of local viewers each day.

or is it due to her not from been round here that she wasnt even aware that this site existed until somone whispered that Mr Jones had posted somthing about her prommises on here

let me see

Graham Jones - local guy whos worked hard for his constituants and helped out many people not even in his ward

OR

Karren Buckley - ERRR whos that again ?

edit:

i must appoligise she did join up she just never had anything to say to us

anzac 05-05-2010 22:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 812546)
There is an overwhelming stench of cuprinol around these parts, what with all the politicos crawling out of the woodwork. :rolleyes:

People have only come out of the woodwork to answer what was a stupid (sorry political) thread in the first place.

If our labour candidate had not thought of a way to score political points in the days before the election and told silly stories about the opposition then this would not have happened

As per usual Mr Jones cannot come up with anything to endorse himself he just keeps on blaming others trying to score political points from wherever he can.

Mr Jones I am a labour person through and through but I do not think that you are the person who should be representing me in parliament. I don't trust you and I think that you should try and put your brain in motion before speaking out and your constant blaming of others for whatever it is that is going wrong is childish and immature.

Good luck for tomorrow and if you should be voted as our next MP then please "Grow Up"

g jones 05-05-2010 22:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Ashton (Post 812544)
I know Karen Buckley personally and can guarantee that she will make an excellent MP for Hyndburn. I cant say the same for Graham Jones who is running a very negative campaign. the only problem is that we'll have to put up with him for another 3 years at county hall if he is not elected as MP and one year was bad enough!

As for Karen's promises I am sure she will be able to work with and influence local government to secure the best outcomes for the local people.

Tim Ashton

First of all thank you for joining County Councillor Ashton (Lytham). There has been no negative campaigning from Karen or myself as far as I am aware. There has been a lot nationally from all parties including in Hyndburn attacking Gordon Brown in leaflets and on posters.

Being MP for Hyndburn is a huge responsibility. Fighting for things you cannot have influence over is misleading and wrong. I accept Karen will want to compete in Accrington South for votes as part of Hyndburn.

Tim, we never meet or speak politically. I am not on any committee's as such. I have raised 4 questions at County Hall and spoken twice politically in Full Council, neither directed at you. At a recent cabinet I agreed with you and complemented you. The only time I have spoken at Cabinet.

As chief Conservative campaign organiser for Lancashire I know you are one of the most competitive Conservatives in Lancashire.

The area I live is important to me because it is my home, my friends, my community. It is important that council colleagues and election candidates respect what is possible, and what others are doing. It is detrimental to be left with only unrealistic promises.

Rest assured, the community felt they were being offered a bonanza.

Ken Moss 06-05-2010 06:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anzac (Post 812549)
People have only come out of the woodwork to answer what was a stupid (sorry political) thread in the first place.

If our labour candidate had not thought of a way to score political points in the days before the election and told silly stories about the opposition then this would not have happened

As per usual Mr Jones cannot come up with anything to endorse himself he just keeps on blaming others trying to score political points from wherever he can.

If you had joined this forum earlier then you would have seen that there are members on here (Jaysay, for example) who offer a Tory balance to arguments put forward by a large number of Labour posters, myself included.

Accyweb is well-known to the Hyndburn Conservative party and yet none of the councillors deign to dip their toe in the water and offer their own views. The opportunity has been there for seven years since AccyWeb was created, the only exception being Peter Britcliffe who came on and posted twice but pretended to be somebody else.

Graham has not waited until the last minute to attack Tory policies and tactics, he has been doing it for a very long time on here. He also has plenty to crow about in terms of what he has done for his community as a councillor.

Just pop along to the public gallery in the next full council meeting if you want to tell people to grow up as I think you will probably find the Conservatives are the worst of the lot.

Margaret Pilkington 06-05-2010 06:27

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I suppose Tim will be another 'no-show' on here once the election is over.
This is a mis-use of the forum in my opinion. For what it is worth.

Ken Moss 06-05-2010 06:27

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As welcome as the views of localad, Tim Ashton and Mohammed Younis are, you've had plenty of time to come on here and fly the blue banner.

The eve of the election is too little too late and it reflects rather badly on your party as a whole.

Ken Moss 06-05-2010 06:30

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 812581)
I suppose Tim will be another 'no-show' on here once the election is over.
This is a mis-use of the forum in my opinion. For what it is worth.

Well said, Margaret.

For me, it emphasises the point that our Conservative councillors are reluctant to engage with their electorate until election time when it matters to them.

To quote their own slogan, it's time for change.

Neil 06-05-2010 08:42

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 812548)
let me see

Graham Jones - local guy whos worked hard for his constituants and helped out many people not even in his ward

OR

Karren Buckley - ERRR whos that again ?

I understand where your coming from but for me I usually vote for the person in local elections and the party in general elections.

I do like Graham and I am sure he would be a good hard working MP but I don't think I want Gordon Brown in the big chair after today.

We are not voting until Rhonda finished work so I have a few hours to decide yet where my X is going. I know who is getting my X locally its just the general that has me thinking.

Neil 06-05-2010 08:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 812583)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 812581)
I suppose Tim will be another 'no-show' on here once the election is over.
This is a mis-use of the forum in my opinion. For what it is worth.

Well said, Margaret.

For me, it emphasises the point that our Conservative councillors are reluctant to engage with their electorate until election time when it matters to them.

To quote their own slogan, it's time for change.

Give it a rest Ken.

The only reason you joined AccyWeb was because you knew you were standing in the Local Elections. I am sure Graham will have suggested/told you to join and become a friend to the people in plenty of time before the election.

Take a read of your own blog and tell me how many of those great things you talk about have been down to you personally or your party.
I hope you are not becoming a typical politician already, jumping on the bandwagon and trying to claim the glory for others hard work.

I am getting fed up of this forum being used as a tool to help peoples little political ambitions. I believe you are using this forum to promote yourself, would you like to prove me wrong?

Sat here reading all this drivel is like being back in the school play ground. We want Councillors and MP's who care about the job we vote them to do, not argue and try to undermine there opposition. It is counter productive.

jaysay 06-05-2010 09:07

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 812607)
Give it a rest Ken.

The only reason you joined AccyWeb was because you knew you were standing in the Local Elections. I am sure Graham will have suggested/told you to join and become a friend to the people in plenty of time before the election.

Take a read of your own blog and tell me how many of those great things you talk about have been down to you personally or your party.
I hope you are not becoming a typical politician already, jumping on the bandwagon and trying to claim the glory for others hard work.

I am getting fed up of this forum being used as a tool to help peoples little political ambitions. I believe you are using this forum to promote yourself, would you like to prove me wrong?

Sat here reading all this drivel is like being back in the school play ground. We want Councillors and MP's who care about the job we vote them to do, not argue and try to undermine there opposition. It is counter productive.

Great post Neil:mosher: have some green

accyman 06-05-2010 13:08

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 812603)
I do like Graham and I am sure he would be a good hard working MP but I don't think I want Gordon Brown in the big chair after today.

if labour win he wont be around much longer ,labour couldnt have an uprising just before an electon so i reakon the way polotics goes he will be replaced soon as leader of tehir party

Neil 06-05-2010 13:18

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 812664)
if labour win he wont be around much longer ,labour couldnt have an uprising just before an electon so i reakon the way polotics goes he will be replaced soon as leader of tehir party

Not really the way for them to do it then.

Look at all the moaning about Gordon Brown being the un elected PM. If they change him ASAP it will be the same again.

Margaret Pilkington 06-05-2010 13:19

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 812664)
if labour win he wont be around much longer ,labour couldnt have an uprising just before an electon so i reakon the way polotics goes he will be replaced soon as leader of tehir party

Possibly for David Milliband.......is that a good swap?

Wynonie Harris 06-05-2010 14:18

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 812664)
if labour win he wont be around much longer ,labour couldnt have an uprising just before an electon so i reakon the way polotics goes he will be replaced soon as leader of tehir party

So, in other words, we could quite soon end up with Harriet Harman as PM? :eek:

jaysay 06-05-2010 14:37

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 812687)
So, in other words, we could quite soon end up with Harriet Harman as PM? :eek:

Not hapless bloody Harriet:eek::rolleyes:

cashman 06-05-2010 14:38

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 812546)
There is an overwhelming stench of cuprinol around these parts, what with all the politicos crawling out of the woodwork. :rolleyes:

and then there were 3 *******, can't see the point in wasting karma on em meself. still shaker am glad others are noticing these clowns.:)

jaysay 06-05-2010 14:56

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 812669)
Not really the way for them to do it then.

Look at all the moaning about Gordon Brown being the un elected PM. If they change him ASAP it will be the same again.

Come on Neil, when do they do anything right;)

cashman 06-05-2010 14:58

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 812704)
Come on Neil, when do they do anything right;)

Thats true, but at least the Torys did in London when they rejected yer local candidate.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Neil 06-05-2010 14:59

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 812704)
Come on Neil, when do they do anything right;)

I did not say if it was right or wrong.

jaysay 06-05-2010 15:00

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 812706)
Thats true, but at least the Torys did in London when they rejected yer local candidate.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

They won't have when Jones wins tonight;)

shillelagh 06-05-2010 15:07

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
met karen buckley today .. shook her and her hubbys hand .. and she still shook my hand even though i was introduced as this is jennifer who is labour party equivalent of me ...:D:D:D

Neil 06-05-2010 16:03

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 812709)
met karen buckley today .. shook her and her hubbys hand .. and she still shook my hand even though i was introduced as this is jennifer who is labour party equivalent of me ...:D:D:D

And why should she not shake your hand?

cashman 06-05-2010 16:04

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 812718)
And why should she not shake your hand?

Are you serious?:D

Neil 06-05-2010 16:07

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 812719)
Are you serious?:D

Yes

cashman 06-05-2010 16:18

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 812721)
Yes

can understand her shaking Grahams, Bernards,Kens, even mine.............but jen.........:eek:

garinda 06-05-2010 16:21

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 812709)
met karen buckley today .. shook her and her hubbys hand .. and she still shook my hand even though i was introduced as this is jennifer who is labour party equivalent of me ...:D:D:D

I hope you did a little curtsy, along with your 'Pleased to meet you Ma'am'.

:D

Neil 06-05-2010 16:42

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 812724)
can understand her shaking Grahams, Bernards,Kens, even mine.............but jen.........:eek:

Fair point cashy :D:D

katex 06-05-2010 19:16

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 812607)
Give it a rest Ken.

The only reason you joined AccyWeb was because you knew you were standing in the Local Elections. I am sure Graham will have suggested/told you to join and become a friend to the people in plenty of time before the election.

Take a read of your own blog and tell me how many of those great things you talk about have been down to you personally or your party.
I hope you are not becoming a typical politician already, jumping on the bandwagon and trying to claim the glory for others hard work.

I am getting fed up of this forum being used as a tool to help peoples little political ambitions. I believe you are using this forum to promote yourself, would you like to prove me wrong?

Sat here reading all this drivel is like being back in the school play ground. We want Councillors and MP's who care about the job we vote them to do, not argue and try to undermine there opposition. It is counter productive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 812608)
Great post Neil:mosher: have some green

Well Jaysay, I did not particularly find Neil's post great at all.

One minute people are grumbling for candidates not coming on here to use it as a forum to promote their views and introduce themselves to the community; the next minute a moderator is grumbling because some one has !!

I have found Ken's posts most informative and intelligent. He has taken great care and time to intereact with our members in debates, disagreeing and agreeing in many ways but always coming back to answer any doubts we had, and feel his mind has been changed in some ways by those opposing views.

I will not be offended if he does not post again after tonight's results ... get the impression he will, as will Graham Jones. I, for one, hope the people of Rishton vote him in.

As a moderator, you should understand that this is all good stuff and what is keeping Accyweb alive and thriving.. :p

Neil 06-05-2010 20:08

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 812765)
As a moderator, you should understand that this is all good stuff and what is keeping Accyweb alive and thriving.. :p


You missed the point.

He was moaning about some people coming on here for their own gain, as in the LCC County Councillor when the only reason he joined was to promote himself as a candidate for HBC.

Pot and kettle time if you ask me.

Ken Moss 06-05-2010 20:11

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Thank you Kate, I have been quite busy today as you can imagine but have just come home to find a fairly negative post from one of our moderators along with a slap for breaking forum rules over linking my blog to my posts. The link admittedly has broken forum rules, for which I apologise and have amended it accordingly, but it hasn't exactly appeared overnight and there has been plenty of time to berate me for it.

Neil, thanks a bunch for saying all that. I stand by my view that AccyWeb is a superb forum but my view of you has taken something of a nosedive today.

Why wait till now to make your feelings known? Good timing, pal.

Ken Moss 06-05-2010 20:13

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 812776)
You missed the point.

He was moaning about some people coming on here for their own gain, as in the LCC County Councillor when the only reason he joined was to promote himself as a candidate for HBC.

Pot and kettle time if you ask me.

If you've been studying my posts so closely you will find that an early post points out that hardly anyone on here is from Rishton so what would be the point of promoting myself?

I believe it was Katex who corrected me on that point actually.

katex 06-05-2010 20:15

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 812607)

I am getting fed up of this forum being used as a tool to help peoples little political ambitions.

You made this statement though did you not ? :rolleyes:

Why not ? We all use this forum for our own needs in some way.

Margaret Pilkington 06-05-2010 20:15

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
I think the difference there might be that Ken will continue with his allegiance to Accyweb........and that will be because it is the forum which represents his locality.
I will be surprised if Tim Ashton graces us with his presence again......because he had a different agenda.......and accyweb is not representative of anything he is vaguely interested in. My opinion,(for what it is worth) is that he came on here just to promote one of his tory cohorts....and before I am accused of any partisan activity......I am affiliated to none of the political parties, and have no axe to grind for any one of them.

Ken Moss 06-05-2010 20:47

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 812607)
Give it a rest Ken.

The only reason you joined AccyWeb was because you knew you were standing in the Local Elections. I am sure Graham will have suggested/told you to join and become a friend to the people in plenty of time before the election.

Take a read of your own blog and tell me how many of those great things you talk about have been down to you personally or your party.
I hope you are not becoming a typical politician already, jumping on the bandwagon and trying to claim the glory for others hard work.

I am getting fed up of this forum being used as a tool to help peoples little political ambitions. I believe you are using this forum to promote yourself, would you like to prove me wrong?

Sat here reading all this drivel is like being back in the school play ground. We want Councillors and MP's who care about the job we vote them to do, not argue and try to undermine there opposition. It is counter productive.

To answer your post properly, Graham did not suggest I come on here, neither did any of the other Labour members in Hyndburn. I found it by searching for 'Accrington chatroom' on Google while looking for something to do one day. It was a pleasant surprise to find this forum.

The 'great things' on my blog are down to the work of myself and Cllr Grayson in Rishton giving a damn about our village and trying to do something about it. Anyone who has raised any money or started a project on their own is credited, if you care to read it properly.

I also understand that Accyweb was originally created in 2003 as a political debating ground, so what's changed in seven years to suddenly make me a target for venting spleen?

I care about my village and this will come through in my musings, but if you want me to leave the forum because you're under some delusion that it is furthering my political stance in Rishton then fire me off and have done with it.

Eric 06-05-2010 21:20

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 812785)
To answer your post properly, Graham did not suggest I come on here, neither did any of the other Labour members in Hyndburn. I found it by searching for 'Accrington chatroom' on Google while looking for something to do one day. It was a pleasant surprise to find this forum.

The 'great things' on my blog are down to the work of myself and Cllr Grayson in Rishton giving a damn about our village and trying to do something about it. Anyone who has raised any money or started a project on their own is credited, if you care to read it properly.

I also understand that Accyweb was originally created in 2003 as a political debating ground, so what's changed in seven years to suddenly make me a target for venting spleen?

I care about my village and this will come through in my musings, but if you want me to leave the forum because you're under some delusion that it is furthering my political stance in Rishton then fire me off and have done with it.

Have to agree that I have read your posts as being from a local politician who cares about his constituency ... oh, by the way, good luck from the Great White North.

cashman 06-05-2010 21:24

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 812788)
Have to agree that I have read your posts as being from a local politician who cares about his constituency ... oh, by the way, good luck from the Great White North.

its fine wi me, think its good that local reps come along n contribute, pity ALL parties don't. IMHO.

odders 06-05-2010 21:29

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
I think Neil has been speaking without his moderators hat on. Well done Neil...:nono8:

As of Graham & Ken, at least they have been around unlike some, and their posts have certainly raised questions and awareness of themselves, no matter how long they have been here.

Just remember moderator means bite your tongue:dummy2:

Tealeaf 06-05-2010 21:37

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by myounis (Post 812428)
The topics you refer to did come up in conversation at a meeting of local Asian men that I arranged, but at no point did she make any false promises. .... County Councillor Mohammed Younis

What happened to the local Asian women, then? Don't they have a vote?

accyman 06-05-2010 21:45

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 812790)
its fine wi me, think its good that local reps come along n contribute, pity ALL parties don't. IMHO.

i heard a rumour and i repeat a rumour that the leader of the torys has forbidden any of his lot to come onto this site so that could be why none of them come on here unless of course in disguise.

when i say leader of the torys i dont mean cameron im refering to local councilors and their head cheif

accyman 06-05-2010 21:49

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 812795)
What happened to the local Asian women, then? Don't they have a vote?

only if their husbands allow it :D

Ken Moss 07-05-2010 07:49

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 812776)
He was moaning about some people coming on here for their own gain, as in the LCC County Councillor when the only reason he joined was to promote himself as a candidate for HBC.

Having now discovered who you are and the people you have worked with on community projects in Hyndburn, it does not surprise me that any posts of mine which may be perceived as anti-Conservative propoganda have riled you.

I did not decry the three new forum members as posting for their own gain and if you would care to glance back over the thread you will find that I welcome the views of Tory councillors to bring some balance to arguments. AccyWeb is no stranger to the Hyndburn council chambers so it would be nice to hear some views from the Conservative councillors without posting under secret names.

Gayle 07-05-2010 08:11

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 812910)
Having now discovered who you are and the people you have worked with on community projects in Hyndburn, it does not surprise me that any posts of mine which may be perceived as anti-Conservative propoganda have riled you.

Well, he's worked with me on a community project, so what exactly does that say?

Tealeaf 07-05-2010 08:17

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 812785)
I also understand that Accyweb was originally created in 2003 as a political debating ground, so what's changed in seven years to suddenly make me a target for venting spleen?

Errr....that's not what I remember from 2003. You need to ask Roy and maybe someone like Mick as to what the original intention was in creating this site, but I do recall that when I first came on here back in September '03 most of the threads revolved around who was guilty of pinching someone elses biscuits.

Ah...happy days.

jaysay 07-05-2010 09:52

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 812910)
Having now discovered who you are and the people you have worked with on community projects in Hyndburn, it does not surprise me that any posts of mine which may be perceived as anti-Conservative propoganda have riled you.

I did not decry the three new forum members as posting for their own gain and if you would care to glance back over the thread you will find that I welcome the views of Tory councillors to bring some balance to arguments. AccyWeb is no stranger to the Hyndburn council chambers so it would be nice to hear some views from the Conservative councillors without posting under secret names.

Run that one past Robert Owen:rolleyes:

Neil 07-05-2010 11:37

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 812910)
Having now discovered who you are and the people you have worked with on community projects in Hyndburn, it does not surprise me that any posts of mine which may be perceived as anti-Conservative propoganda have riled you.

You obviously know nothing about me. Don't start accusing me of things like someone else did a while back, he or she looked really foolish in the end.

I have no allegiance to any person or party.

Community wise I do what I do to improve Rhyddings Park for everyone including myself and if that makes me selfish then so be it.

I have only recently become involved with projects covering the whole of Hyndburn and not just those on my own doorstep. We have discussed this before and I suggested you become involved with the other group I am involved with. I do hope you will be.

I work with whoever wants to be involved and I do not intend to discuss who does and does not want to be involved on an open forum as I will be accused of complimenting some people and insulting others. Ask me about if if we ever meet and I will explain what I mean.

Less 07-05-2010 14:32

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 812785)



I also understand that Accyweb was originally created in 2003 as a political debating ground, so what's changed in seven years to suddenly make me a target for venting spleen?

Now, Now, Ken, wherever did you get that idea from?

Accyweb was created by a lad in his mid twenties so that he and his friends/families could be in touch with their friends/loved ones, (pass the bucket, how the and times have changed) while they worked abroad,

It went through it's years of development until it reached this form of 'Maturity'.

It has become a local forum for all that are interested in the area in almost, any sphere.

The unfortunate thing is that o.k. it has a history that History is that it struggled for the first several years to gain members, but those of us there, back then, had fun, most of the time was spent in anything goes, with the occasional Tsk at what is going on in the real World.

The Site has moved on, it and it's owner have matured a little, however with that maturity comes the fact that you soon realise there are people ready to take advantage.

Some do it by never moving from buy, sell and swap, (Oh yes the admin knows who you are and the bill is forthcoming).

Some do it by creating a controversial thread and never moving from there, but stirring it all the same.

Some like yourself come on, are absolutely enthusiastic and dip in to just about everywhere, as I once mentioned about you, becoming, 'All things to all men'.

Of the whole bunch, I think yours is the better attitude get mixed in with everyone and I do think you try to be helpful, but,

Please, don't ever suggest that accyweb was started to for political discussion, that was never the case, it was developed to be a laugh between friends with the odd excursion into serious topic's.

I've said it before, I'm about to repeat myself,

can we please have the old accyweb back?

The fun things we used to do no matter what party, religion, or in fact anything, because we used to look at all these things for the funny side.

Take a look through the archives of accyweb in Anything goes, if any of us try to start such wonderment now even the mod's get nervous instead of joining in.
:D

Margaret Pilkington 07-05-2010 14:41

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
I didn't join until I 'fell' into the site by accident in October 2004...so I guess the site was a teenager then....and yes it was fun.
I sat here many an evening with tears of laughter streaming down my face......it was different back then, but it has evolved into a very good all round site, with something to suit almost everyone....and that in itself is agreat achievement....and I hope Roy realises this.
For some folk on here it is their social life.......because they are in the situation that means they cannot get out of their homes easily......and we feel like a family.....we worry about folk if they have not been on for a few days.
And if there is something that you need...put out a call on Accyweb and it does its magic.

I know that all this does not just 'happen'...it takes work and effort.
Thank you to those who keep this site running, and those who make the interesting microcosm that it is.

Less 07-05-2010 14:48

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 813025)
I didn't join until I 'fell' into the site by accident in October 2004...

Psst' Margaret, don't tell anyone, but if you look at anyone's details the earliest date is 2004, that's because one time when Roy was updating the sites software, he reached for his can, spilt it over the D for Delete key and had to put every members details in again by hand, what the hey, he thought, Jan' 2004 seems a good date to copy and paste everyone from...

;)

Margaret Pilkington 07-05-2010 15:07

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
too late Less, you have just spilled the beans.

Neil 07-05-2010 15:13

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 813022)
Take a look through the archives of accyweb in Anything goes, if any of us try to start such wonderment now even the mod's get nervous instead of joining in.
:D

erm not quite all of them :rolleyes::D

Less 07-05-2010 16:05

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 813032)
erm not quite all of them :rolleyes::D

What? are you saying some of the Archives are missing?

It's that Roy with the slippy beer can's again, what section was he in this time?

:D

Morecambe Ex Pat 07-05-2010 16:27

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
I like Acyweb because it keeps me in touch with things happening in the town of my birth. Since moving to the frozen North, I have been kept informed of events which even my parents, who still live in Accy, are unaware of.
My life doesn't revolve around Accyweb but it is nice to see that the old fashioned neighbourhood spirit is alive and well even though it has grown up and popping in through computers has replaced popping in for a coffee, strangers are still becoming friends through just helping each other.
I know people don't always see eye to eye but I hope that the majority of members on here respect the views of others and accept that we are all individuals with our own view point.

Less 07-05-2010 18:40

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morecambe Ex Pat (Post 813059)
I like Acyweb because it keeps me in touch with things happening in the town of my birth. Since moving to the frozen North, I have been kept informed of events which even my parents, who still live in Accy, are unaware of.
My life doesn't revolve around Accyweb but it is nice to see that the old fashioned neighbourhood spirit is alive and well even though it has grown up and popping in through computers has replaced popping in for a coffee, strangers are still becoming friends through just helping each other.
I know people don't always see eye to eye but I hope that the majority of members on here respect the views of others and accept that we are all individuals with our own view point.


See what I mean? Any old riff raff can post these day's!
:D

Ken Moss 07-05-2010 18:59

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 813022)
Now, Now, Ken, wherever did you get that idea from?

Accyweb was created by a lad in his mid twenties so that he and his friends/families could be in touch with their friends/loved ones, (pass the bucket, how the and times have changed) while they worked abroad.

That's clearly a big misunderstanding on my part so I'll apologise.

However, I would like to think that in the coming months it will become clear that I have not been using AccyWeb to further my own political career and it is one of the few things stated about me that I have found unacceptable.

Tealeaf 07-05-2010 19:08

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
OK Ken.....Accy Web is now a big tent. All are welcome, be it for the purposes of serious dicussion, local issues and history, Footy or just acting the fool and 'owt in between. But it's not here for commercial profit - there are other places for that.

garinda 12-05-2010 11:31

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 812957)
Run that one past Robert Owen:rolleyes:



...or the member 'hyndburn'.

Who you congtatulated on his election win, but who posts that he knows, and will call. Cllr. Pritchard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyndburn (Post 621115)
I no clare has done alot of work in milnshaw all so her dad malcolm has i no malcolm will talk to about this just call him

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

jaysay 12-05-2010 14:32

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 814244)
Quote:

Originally Posted by hyndburn (Post 621115)
I no clare has done alot of work in milnshaw all so her dad malcolm has i no malcolm will talk to about this just call him



:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

some people are easily amused, must be small mind small...........:rolleyes:

garinda 12-05-2010 14:40

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 814265)
some people are easily amused, must be small mind small...........:rolleyes:

Yes, sorry, but blatent hypocrisy does get me rolling on the floor, in laughter.

;)

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

jaysay 12-05-2010 14:56

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 814267)
Yes, sorry, but blatent hypocrisy does get me rolling on the floor, in laughter.

;)

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

You have me rolling everyday:D

garinda 12-05-2010 15:01

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 814273)
You have me rolling everyday:D

Thank you.

Yes it is funny, that Cllr. Pritchard, posting under the anonymous pseudonym 'hyndburn', says he call and talk to, er...Cllr. Pritchard.

Priceless.

:rolleyes:

accyman 12-05-2010 15:45

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 814276)
Thank you.

Yes it is funny, that Cllr. Pritchard, posting under the anonymous pseudonym 'hyndburn', says he call and talk to, er...Cllr. Pritchard.

Priceless.

:rolleyes:


is this him ?

http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI...672R-27693.jpg

or is this him been treated for his schizophrenia ?

http://www.defence.gov.au/news/armyn...dcelljune5.jpg

cashman 12-05-2010 21:42

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 814265)
some people are easily amused, must be small mind small...........:rolleyes:

Nah this cannot be??? are ya supporting him, cos he kept yer mate in his job?:D

jaysay 13-05-2010 09:22

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 814392)
Nah this cannot be??? are ya supporting him, cos he kept yer mate in his job?:D

I've know Malcolm for many years, decent bloke in my eyes, :)

cashman 13-05-2010 09:31

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 814469)
I've know Malcolm for many years, decent bloke in my eyes, :)

Funny that dont answer my question.:D

jaysay 13-05-2010 10:12

Re: Conservative candidates promises anger residents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 814472)
Funny that dont answer my question.:D

don't know the answer:D


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