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Beaten but we know the score..the Tories can sort out any deficiet within 2 years.. cuts on the NHS..cuts on education . cuts on everything have that have taken decades for decenct men and women to fight for... lets hope the little support the Lib -Dems have can blunt the massive cuts the Tories will carry out in Education and the health service... after all "education" has always been a bad word for the Tories!:eek:

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Mancie ..... Do you take personal responsibility for anything ? at times you come across as a Pol Pot wannabe ,( kill all the Tories because they know how to use a knife and fork, and know how to think) , think the moderators should check your ISP and check if it's a direct link to North Korea . ;)

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

The Tories use knives and forks? .. that's a new one on me, lets get things clear,the Tories have battered the life out of what me and you would call "ordinary people" in this country everytime they have been in power, and I can't see why they would or should change this time... take time to look at history.. they hate the NHS.. they hate any benifits to the less well off.. they hate equal higher education for those who have not been born into the system they created.. anyone who has not got loadsa money are easy prey when they work out who will pay for the damage they say Labour have done.. they hold absolute power in the press because the press need the Tories and vis versa.
I rest my case and if anyone can defend the Tories have it!

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

well it looks like thatchers gonna definatly get her state funeral now so if it must happen i would rather it be sooner than later

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

At least having a Tory P.M. again should mean a marked improvement in the quality of work of comedians and satirists.

:D

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

so what your actually saying is the journalism standards of the Daily Worker , Daily Herald, and the Mirror didn't match up to the standards of the Sun , lets face it the "great unwashed" prolitariat prefer tits to ideology and rational thought :D :D

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

We're going to have a whole Cabinet full of 'em from today so we should enjoy the show.
:D

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

oh dear go it may mean a return of ben elton stand up though :(

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

I know.

Poor chap hasn't had much to rant about for the last thirteen years.

He's had to settle for becoming a multi-millionaire, by writing musicals.

:rolleyes::D

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

I think Rick Mayall, and maybe the resurrection of the New Statesman might be the one to watch out for.

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Don't be too hard on Mancie SJ it is early morning and WILL have been on the sauce all night, he tends to run off at the mouth after quaffing oodles of fire water all night,:D

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Glad to see you haven't emigrated Bernard, haven't had much to say whilst your shower were plunging use into billions of pounds of debt, great to see your still with us:rolleyes:

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

So much debt... did Labour lower your living standards?.. did they slaughter the NHS?..did they not guarantee a basic rate of pay for low earners.. did they not pay for the services you need?.. a bad Government maybe but I can't think of any good Goverment we have had.
I give you something Jaysay you are a die hard and believe in the Tories, lets hope they don't bite you in return ;)

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Though I don't think he voted for poor Karen Buckley, the Conservative candidate, in last week's General Election.

A true supporter would have.

:rolleyes:

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

A true supporter with principle wouldn't, I didn't:rolleyes:

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Some time I wonder which planet you actually live on Mancie, it certainly ain't planet earth

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Maybe I would rather live on another planet than under your mob..but I'm so rich I was gonna ****** off and live in Monaco.. but then the Tories got in and my accountant told me I can sit on my arse all day doing sod all and make lots of money without paying tax.. tax is for wimps.

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Well you should know:rolleyes:

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

A principled tory:eek: That's right in there with jumbo shrimp, Micorsoft Works, and military intelligence;):D

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

It doesnt matter much who is in power, they have to find the money to reduce the national debt, without being picky, the national debt was derived not from the last few years, but from the selling off of nationalised industries, the council houses and the like, the sale put money in the coffers at the time, but reduced future income whilst propping up a false economy (from the sell off), many people on low income were duped into the belief that buying the council house they lived in would somehow make them better people, only to find that it didnt, and they couldnt afford the mortgages let alone the ill advised improvement loans, so they had negative equity, or were repossessed, who bought those houses on the cheap?? The wealthy! What really needs to happen, is for a party to explain what this mess will cost us, honestly, how long it will take, and where the cuts/tax hikes are being introduced to pay it off.

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

what happened with a lot of council properties is that they got sold and rented out so instead of paying £40 a week for a 3 bedroom house back then they had to pay £90-£110 a week for tennats in houses that they should never have sold in the first place.You cant blame peopel for taking advantage of teh scheme but it really got my backup that somone who had their rent paid for 15 years could get a huge discount on a 3 bedroom house with front and rear gardens and all they had to do was get a job to get a special rate morgage and sell the house 5 years down the line for a huge proffit.Even then some people after making the money on the house they sold re-applied and got another council house with a huge sum of cash in the bank hidden in a partners or relatives bank acount.

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Well on a matter of principle I said I would resign from the party and wouldn't vote for any candidate from a list forced on HCA, both of which I did, I'm no longer a party member nor did I vote Tory last Thursday either :)

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

I just checked and surprisingly it came back with this address

30 Millbank
London
SW1P 4DP

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Not even in the local election?

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

That is a civil service building :eek:
....maybe he is 007:D

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

I voted for Simon in the locals, in fact I spent an hour with him prior to the election, my beef was with party officials at the NWAO not our local set up

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Someone else who understands that social housing was a good idea. Locally, we're now left with a raft of Manchester-based companies who couldn't give a toss about Hyndburn.

The new administration in Great Britain seem to think that harsh cuts in front line services and good old fashioned harsh taxation will fix the country in a few short years whereas it is more likely to slide us back into the pit.

Much as I want the new government to work, I suspect that those of us north of the wash will be moving to Far Corfe fairly soon.

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Dont get me going on that Ken, the EVIL bitch who may even get a state funeral never intended to try to understand that,:( still hopefully that can't be far off.

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

I'm getting a touch impatient as well cashy, surely we don't have to wait for her to die to bury her do we?
:D

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

You seem to forget just how much debt this country is in Ken, when you borrow money at the same rat of knots as this last government did, without any sort of idea how to pay it back, or were not bothered because they were quite aware that once again it wouldn't be them who has to clear the mess up, when you borrow money whether it be national Government or the ordinary man in the street, there comes a time when you have to admit that you need to address your finances, unfortunately Labour never have and always let others clean up their mess, and it is a mess:mad:

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

selective memory, seem to remember the mess they were in when labour came to power.:rolleyes: thats the differance between us- i know all of ems *******.

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

:rofl38:

Is my memory going? I thought this last fiasco was brought on by a Global recession, not some labour inspired let's have a joke ready for when the Tories come to power.

Any way it's time for everyone in the whole world to buckle down and pay Benipete back, he can't support us all forever.
;)

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

We were, very slowly, pulling ourselves out of recession. The situation was not ideal and I make no pretence that elements of the banking sector were allowed to get away with murder under the Labour government but the majority that have heavy state ownership are beginning to steadily repay their debts.

What will now happen is that the Tories (whilst trying to delude us that they're in coalition) will rape all the frontline services claiming that they had no choice due to Labour's mistakes.

In five years time, they will pledge more money for frontline services and we'll be expected to believe that it's sodding Christmas by simply offering us what they cut in the first place.

'The previous government' is the all-purpose excuse for any sticky situation they find themselves in and it hacks me off that it's the best excuse they can come up with.

That (if you're listening, Wynonie) is why I stick to local politics.

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

In 1997 Labour inherited the best economic figures of any incoming government in history, and squandered it, increased taxes to the highest in the countries history, sold of assets, such as the Gold reserves, and borrowed money like here was no tomorrow, a recipe for disaster and that's just what we've been left with

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Was this thanks to the previous government raping such things as North Sea Oil, British Gas, British Telecomm', Electricity, Water,

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

As I said Jaysay, it matters not who is in power, they know it is for a limited period, and that the next elected government will have to clean up the mess, consequence... each party doesnt give a monkeys what mess they make, because they dont have to sort it out, the only penalty is being voted out at the next election, if there was a punishment, ie, they pay a percentage of the deficit back from their salary, they would think more carefully, if the common man worked for his employer the same way as many mp's do, they would be out on their ear within a month.

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

So true, Derek, so true.

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Unfortunately Derek that's a layman's way of looking at things, even though ever word you say is true, but paying back out of their salary:eek::eek::eek::eek::D, whats £1 trillion split 650 ways:D

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Obviously a drop in the ocean, but if they knew they might cop for a cut in their salaries, it might concentrate their minds on making a better job of things!

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Ya reght:D you've far more faith than me Wyn:D

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Just for you Wyn, just for You:D:D:D:D
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Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Oh, I know perfectly well it won't happen, Jaysay, as the majority of politicos (with certain honourable exceptions across the political spectrum0 are greedy, grabbing, self-interested sods! :rolleyes:

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

with certain Honourable exceptions, in that context, is rather an oxymoron don't you think Wyn:D

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Doesn't surprise me at all. The difference between me and you is that you seem to have some sort of faith in the Tory lot. I know most of 'em - Tory. Labour, Lib/Dem - are snout-dipping troughers.

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

In my view, your buddy, Ken Hargreaves was one of the exceptions. I also reckon Graham Jones is another. Both decent, local blokes, who are genuinely concerned about helping their constituents, rather than lining their pockets or furthering their parliamentary careers. Obviously, your blue blinkers won't allow you to agree with me on the latter.

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Oh your so wrong there Wyn. I have no doubt what-so-ever that Graham will be, as you put it an exception to the rule. I don't agree with Grahams politics but I believe he will do a good job for Hyndburn has did Ken and Greg before him, I don't hold Mancie's views that if your on the other side your a waste of space, I have never questioned Grahams commitments to those who elect him, for its the same reason why PB has been a councillor for Ossy since 1983 ask Garinda. Peter works hard for Ossy as Graham does for Peel and now will be doing so down in the big city on behave of all the people Hyndburn irrespective of party, creed or colour

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

They talk as if benefit claimants are second class citizens:( If they hadn't been so damn greedy this might not have happened. Why should they not have to provide receipts and prove that their family are actually living with them if they claim this to be so?????

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

You and I know that BernieI, but most of these people don't live in the real world, would appear they have come crashing down to earth with a bump ;)

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

As for people on benefits being second class citizens I think I'll treat that with the contempt it so richly deserves. Before I was struck down with illness I worked 7 days a week motley 14 hours a day with a weekend of every three, some of these cretins wouldn't last two minutes in a real job, and that applies to all parties, members such as Graham Jones will be few and far between down in that big privileged house:rolleyes:

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

The way I see it these new measures are neccessary and should be strictly adhered to. Anyone making false claims should be hauled before the courts in the same way as any benfit claimant found to be claiming monies frauduently. Why should there be any difference???

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Agreed, there shouldn't be any differance bernie, but there sure as hell will be. IMHO.:rolleyes:

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

How does it go cashy blessed are the law makers for they shall be obeyed:rolleyes:

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Blessed are the law makers for they shall do as they please, maybe :D

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

They are having to do what everyone who works for a normal employer has to do.

If it's too hard for them, and a bit of a struggle on £65,738.00 per annum, then they should jack it in.

God help them if they are ever in the unfortunate situation of having to claim social benefits. They'd be sat on the floor in floods of tears, before they'd even got to page twenty of the the first form.

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

A couple of comments regarding Graham's work rate, at the AW meet, Graham Jones looked exhausted, I told him so, he agreed as he was sneaking off presumably for some kip, I suggested he might need a bit of 'Graham time', rest in other words, I know very well what over-working can do to a person, hopefully Graham will balance his time and do his best for his constintuents whilst not wearing himself out and ending up useless!

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

He must have been exhausted.

He's been campainging flat out, since early last autumn.

Hopefully he'll soon settle in, and get the work/home ratio sorted.

I'm so proud we have someone representing us down in Westminster we know and trust.

The good news is that his travelling will soon be cut for a while, as it's nearly the end of the school year.

Whoops.

Meant parliamentary summer recess.

:D

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Well, you've sure got a funny way of showing your regard, judging by some of the names you've called him, "numpty" being one of the more pleasant ones, but I suppose that's just the rough and tumble of Accyweb! :D

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

not really he just tells lies:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

As willis would say what you talking about cashman:D

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Numpty is a term of endearment Wyn, usually reserved for those nice people from Burnley ( I'm not allowed to use the "D" word anymore) but seriously I've never questioned his commitment, just his politics, when words like numpty may have entered the equation:D

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Although I suppose some people could call it 'vile and vicious'.

Or is that only applicable when applied to your beloved?

:rolleyes:

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

My beloved Joan's not a member of Accy Web:D:tongueout:tongueout

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Cameron might not have been too keen, but I hope you've not turned your back on Cllr. Britcliffe.

You're like a modern day Wallace and Edward VIII.

Or do I mean Wallace and Gromit?

:rolleyes:

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

:rofl38: :rofl38: Don't believe anyone put a gun to his head , just one of the results of ambition and trying to move up in the world , the Blessed Mother Teresa looked like crap for years but carried on doing good works :rofl38: ;)

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Feeding the poor, in all that heat, soon took it's toll.

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Regrettably, the nuns at Cardinal Newman College never looked like the buxom young lady in your left picture while I was studying there.

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

Think the problem is we have different meanings for terms of endearment Garinda,:rolleyes: and if your Wallace I'm certainly not Gromit:D

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 

The last time I saw a nun like that was in Two Mules for Sister Sarah :D