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Yeah your right Cashy...I think we had a point were the Lunatics took over the asylumn, then the asylumn took control of the lunatics!...now the Lunatics are back in Charge!!


Best Regards - Taggy

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I think we are doomed which ever way the cat jumps ........:(
This lot nowadays all pee in the same pot. :(

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"James and I are intensely private people," Mr Laws said in a statement.
David Laws Expenses Scandal: Chief Secretary To Treasury Vows To Pay Back 40,000 Pounds In Expenses | Politics | Sky News

I bet you are.

Especially when you were pocketing £950. a month for five years, that you weren't entitled to.

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Come on then, AndrewB...defend that! :rolleyes:

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'The new parliamentary watchdog is to revise some of its rules after an outcry from MPs over the new expenses regime, with many saying they are being forced to lay off staff and others claiming to be substantially out of pocket.'


'MPs will be offered £4,000 salary advances to help with setting up their offices. Additionally, a £110,000 cap on staffing budgets could be raised to avoid staff lay-offs and MPS facing employment tribunals.'
Watchdog to revise expenses rules after MPs' complaints | Politics | The Guardian

So much for the new broom, and how it was advertised as sweeping so much cleaner than the old one.

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Bloody Liberals;)

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'Impeccably coiffed, in pin-sharp tailoring and a Barbour jacket, Mr Laws looks more like a traditional Tory than the stereotypical sandal-wearing Lib Dem. His CV adds to the picture.'

'Surrey-born and privately educated, he took a double first in economics at Cambridge. He worked for JP Morgan and Barclays, before entering politics in 1994. '

'In 2004 he co-edited The Orange Book, which urged the Lib Dems to reject “soggy socialism and corporatism”.

'Mr Laws has rejected overtures to join the Conservatives, telling them that he was “not a Tory”. However, his coalition partners seem unanimous that he is someone they can do business with.'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...-clothing.html


Same wolves.


Same sheep's clothing.


;)

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Aren't they both the same these days?:rolleyes:

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Loving partners, legally bound to each other, by the Civil Union Act.

:Banane41::Banane41:


:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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How the world has moved on in my lifetime, first they allow people of the same sex to marry n thats fine......but christ this union.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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Thing thats obvious to me is the simple fact the reason he did it was to hide his sexuality, well beggar me,if thats the case he obviously thought that was good enough enough reason to "CHEAT" the system!!! and its also obvious after all the pre-election crap that was spouted about expenses, messers Cameron n Clegg were both aware who had diddled what, they are both GUILTY of terrible judgement putting this guy in such n exaulted position?:rolleyes:

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Just another example of political smoke and mirrors. Politics always did, and always will 'STINK'. We became a deplorable laughing stock under Blair and Brown's mismanagement and from what I see now, little is about to change. It seems that those who are edept at 'bending over backwards' are also destined to 'move forward' in the political sphere.

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£950 a month to stop at your boyfriend's flat, he had to go

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yep gone gone gone whos next

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Yep....As we can all see...This really is a New Type of Government isn't it!!:rolleyes:

Best Regards - Taggy

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Cameron @ Clegg should be next, they appointed him knowing full well how much he had claimed illegally. just proves what those 2 are, :rolleyes: Brown cocked up big time, at least he fell on his sword.

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Didn't Cameron just refer to him as an "honourable man" the fact he concealed this affair was because he wanted to protect is private life: that he'd been living with a man for several years - that's why he didn't disclose the fact he'd payed a lump sum for rent. Is that what a rent boy is :dummy2: ?

All politicians are in a form of self deciet: bit like the "emperors new clothes" they think they've got a new suit on when really they are naked! Most of them are rich anyway so do they know what it's like to be skint?

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There's quite a few of your lot;)can pass for well heeled Tories, quite a few Savile Row Suits in the last government:rolleyes:

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yeh but there in no position to sort out the countries deficit, this fiddling sod was, still suppose ya had to deflect cos ya never attack yer own.:tongueout

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My lot?

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Your lot, the ones you voted for at the GE;)

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Which General Election?

I take each one as a separate entity, and vote for whoever I think is the best candidate, and don't slavishly support any one party...unlike some.

;)

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I did'nt support any major party in May:thefinger:thefinger

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I supported and voted for two parties in May. Which rather makes a nonsense of your 'your lot' comment.

:rolleyes:

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You didn't Garinda.
We vote for candidates not parties in Britain , but I get what you mean.:):):):):):):):):)

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Councils, and governments might be made up of individually elected members, but they are divided by represenative parties, and it is those parties that decide who is going to govern.

Therefore, as originally stated, I voted for two parties.

;)

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...and besides, some silly Billys will vote for a horse's arse, as long as it's representing the party they blindly follow.

;)

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True and is there any real difference beween the main parties?
There's not much clear water between them.
The Libs and the Cons have near enough become one.
New Labour took on Conservative policies.
Only the Labour government under Clem Attlee and the Conservative government under under Maggie Thatcher had radical policies which made them quite distinctive.

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The centralising of main stream politicals is a different question.

I voted for two candidates, who represented two political parties.

Fact.

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You, yourself, seemed to be making the point that you thought there were major distinctions, between Labour and the Tories, when you posted...

;)

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For self interest;)

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Correct.That's what I was saying.

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Yes distinct parties but very little to distinguish their policies.

People say , " I've voted Labour all my life or I've voted Conservative all my life."
At elections a kind of tribal thing comes into play.
I'm guilty of it myself.At the election I voted for Graham Jones but I don't support the policies of the present Labour Party.
If I were true to my principles I should have abstained like at least one member of Accy Web had the honour to do.I respect him for it.
Guess to a certain extent I'm influenced also by the argument that I have a duty to vote because of the past struggles of those who won me the right to vote.

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If your referring to me Colin I Didn't abstain I just didn't vote for the Tory candidate on principal, but I did exercise my right to vote ;)

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For self interest?

Are you a total imbecile?

If you are suggesting that I voted for Peter Britcliffe because it was through him, as my councillor, that I secured the grant of £250.00 for the Hyndburn/Ribble Valley Parkinson's disease support group, you are a bigger fool than I thought.

We were informed we would be getting funding way before the election, and the idea that my vote could be secured for financial gain is deeply, and personally offensive, to say the very least.

As stated on election day, I voted for the candidates I thought would do the best job. Period.

I'd be most interested if you'd care to clarify how you think my vote was made for 'self interest'.

(...and yes, the karma deduction will be from me.)

:mad:

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My first statement was correct, and therefore didn't need correcting.

;)

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Silly Billy.

Personally I like to weigh up all the pros and cons.

Much more satisfying being a wolf, rather than a sheep, meekly following the sheep in front.

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On the ball , again , jaysay.
I read too much into your not voting in a certain way.I took it that you abstained.
Still , I admire your voting conscientiously , and not like me just voting the way I did because I always do it that way.
I have said that I am a Socialist.Being realistic , I don't think there's a cat in hell's chance of the British adopting Socialism.
And by Socialism I don't mean Soviet style Communism or the State imposing it's will on the people.The nearest to what I mean is the sort of thing the founders of the Labour Party had in mind , but hasn't that passed it's sell-by date I ask myself.
Any way the people have spoken.We have a new Governmen , so that leaves me plenty of time before the next election to do plenty of soul-searching.
One thing I have decided to leave behind is playing silly party-political games .Michael Foot and Enoch Powell managed to achieve this.On policies they were wide apart but they had a great respect for each other , and they were respected for it by fellow parliamentarians.They weren't into the "personality culture" so evident today.They put forward views that were deemed unacceptable , but stuck by them throughout their careers showing no animosity to their critics.
Hope this has been one of your good days.

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Yer quite right IMHO about the demise of socialism JCB, the bitch from the grocers store destroyed that. by changing the mindset of a large proportion of the nation.:rolleyes: don't think it can ever return sadly, but suppose there may just be n outside shot of this coalition, changing minds,n people reverting back,

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Did Lady Thaycher really destroy Socialism , cashman?
Was there anything socialist about the Labour Party led by Gaitskell , Wilson and Callaghan?
I think the Labour Party itself ditched anything that was socialist about it ,especially when it chose Hugh Gaitskell instead of Aneurin Bevan to lead it.

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well she certainly destroyed the socialism i was brought up wi.:) yer more democratic than me you call her lady, i call her bitch. lol

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Nothing of the sort Garinda, the fact that you have said on here a few times, that you didn't want PB to become an MP because you'd lose him as a councillor, simple as that, now whether that was tongue in cheek by you or not, is another matter, but for you to think I meant it was to do with any donation, is well, I actually thought more of you than that :(

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Nice back track.

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I maybe a lot of things but a liar isn't one of them:mad:

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I didn't call you a liar.

Just said nice back track.

Perhaps if you posted what you actually thought, rather than cryptic slurs, such as my vote being made because of 'self interest', you wouldn't look as desparate as you do now.

Spin, lies, perhaps they're both the same.

Like the second time you sent me a pm, but addressed to someone else, but which the latter you claimed was a 'joke', could be called not being truthful.

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'New Treasury minister Danny Alexander has charged taxpayers more than £13,000 for his wife to make 62 journeys between London and Scotland. '

'The Chief Secretary, who stepped in after David Laws resignation for abusing his expenses, ran up the highest bill of any MP for using the little-known perk last year.
Mr Alexander's wife, 35-year-old magazine writer Rebecca Hoar, used public money to travel between Westminster and their family home in the North-East Highlands.'

'The average cost of the trips – by rail and by air – between London and Inverness was £209.'

Read more: Treasury minister Danny Alexander and his wife's 62 freebie trips on taxpayer | Mail Online



Oh great.

This new broom we have is sooooooooooo much better than the old one.

NOT.

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funny thats a link jaysay never posted.:confused::D

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Well she wont be the first or last "Hoar" to benefit from Politicians expenses!;)


Best Regards - Taggy

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Perhaps he's not yet read that far in today's Mail.

:rolleyes:

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You can't have it both ways you call me when I do link the Mail, now your calling me because I don't:confused::confused::confused:

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The second time YOU actually asked me to do it so I did, I always oblige, just cant win wi some folk:rolleyes:

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Why don't you just arrange water pistols behind the bike sheds at dawn:rolleyes:

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Doubt if either of us could make it Margaret, anyway its such good fun on here, without having to move:D

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I didn't ask you.

I merely remarked that it was a while since I'd had a pm, addressed to someone else, and sent to me by mistake.

Behind the bike sheds sounds a bit furtive.

I'm always much happier, doing whatever, out in the open.

:flamethro

:D

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More like hand bags at dawn.

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Were you always the one left alone, that no one wanted to play with?

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Well I can only speak for myself Tealeaf, but I don't have a hand bag;)

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The Russian Connection;)
...now this sounds like a James Bond novel doesn't it?

YouTube - Nick Clegg Uncovered: Russian roots of British liberalism

So.....they are no longer under the bed...they are here governing us.
Oooh the irony of it :D

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Okay so his name could be clegoffsky so what:D