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It had to happen didn't it. Who the hell decides to employ these people :mad:
England flag ban for Lancashire council workers (From Lancashire Telegraph) |
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Another jobsworth this Carol Mills, should be kicked into touch P.D.Q. n advertise the job fer someone who aint devoid of common sense.:(
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its a darn good job i don't come under L.C.C, i thought BwD was bad enough
my brother works for L.C.C, he has an England sticker in his cab, they'd have to sack him before he'd remove it |
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Carol Mills, director of human resources at LCC, said: "We have told our staff that they cannot fly flags on county council-branded vehicles.
"As a council, our first priority is to deliver high-quality services and our vehicles should reflect this at all times. So how come so many other organisations and companies can still "deliver high-quality services" while allowing their staff to show their support for their national team? Yet another addle-brained, overpaid, petty bureaucrat hiding behind meaningless officialspeak. Never mind, it's a Tory-controlled council and Tories are always telling us what fine, upstanding patriots they are, so doubtless they'll put a stop to this nonsense. :rolleyes: |
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maybe she's married to a foreigner
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Aye , saw it this morning but it said over at Preston. :(
Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: World Cup 2010: Fans barred from flying the St George's flag |
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thats where all L.C.C things are based...County Hall in Preston
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I suppose there is a small risk that a bent flag outside the vehicle could 'put the eye out' of a pedestrian
Remember that joke about 'van arial disease':D ...but a sticker on the inside is no risk unless it obscures the driver's view. When it comes to the crunch it is their vehicle and you drive it by their rules |
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Story's in the Independent...
Row over 'flag ban' on council vehicles - Home News, UK - The Independent The quote from the "executive director" is puzzling... The only exception to this is that we've requested that staff not display flags on county council-branded vehicles. We've asked staff to make this compromise in the interest of making sure our residents know we put services to them first." Why should putting an England flag on their vehicles mean they don't put services to their residents first? :confused: |
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theyve just been talking about this on radio lancs .. and they've had a boss on from lancashire county council .. and he says no one has said that theyre not allowed to fly flags .. he says everyone should just enjoy it ..
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I can only speak for the Team were I'm based in County Hall but our floor is a sea of bunting, flags , footy shirts etc all brought in by the employees and also a lot of colleagues today "dressed down" in their football shirts. Managers have been supportive of the decorations etc which has helped to raise staff morale. Clearly the number one priority must always be to serve the public and perhaps we shouldn't believe everything we read in the press!!!!!
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Perhaps we should be using the complaint form on the website.
A few thousand complaints from the people they supposedly serve may make em change their minds. |
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"I would like to spread the word about Lancashire County Council’s talent and achievements. We often don't share our good work - we are not very good at talking to others about our innovations", Carol said.
News : Homecoming for Lancashire's new HR director Well, well done Carol. You've certainly earned your very well paid salary today, and have let the whole world know about the 'innovations' promoted in Lancashire. I look forward to the word spreading about the effects the coming savage cuts might have, and which will mean you are hopefully no longer employed by us. |
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http://lancashire.gov.uk/corporate/w...l.asp?id=21988
'Carol Mills...is also an experienced alternative/holistic therapist.' Student Services Looks a bit like that other head the ball, charitable and spiritual whore, Heather Mills. Perhaps they're sisters. |
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This story inspired me to go out and buy 2 England flags and stick them on my car.
Carol Mills can like it or lump it:D |
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Good link, Rindy...there are three characters on there all with fancy titles and no doubt salaries of 100K+ and you wonder should each of them get the chop tomorrow what difference it would make to service delivery by LCC? My guess is absolutely nowt.
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'...workers earning less than £20,000 a year among the hardest hit, compared to 3,150 who are in line for an increase.' Thousands of losers and winners in Lancashire County Council pay review (From Lancashire Telegraph) You're presuming Ms. Mills won't be affected then? :rolleyes: |
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Same old story...the poor sods at the bottom are the ones who get shafted while the paper pushers with fancy titles at the top reap the payroll savings by way of bonuses. In fact, it would be no surprise to see that turncoat who has just been made the mayor of that local authority (of which we are all familiar) pop up on here with a new title. He does like to give himself grandiose names.
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buy the sun tomorrow well later on today ..you get one free with the paper .. well according to the adverts anyway .. :D:D:D |
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'Carol Mills is Director of Human Resources at Lancashire County Council, who are one of the largest local government employers in the Country. Carol believes that the key to a healthy workforce is to empower employees to do something for themselves and as a progressive employer, the Council recognises that if they don’t look after their staff - their staff won’t look after their customers.'
Unless by 'empowering' them, it means they can stick a flag on their van. |
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When considering the best approach to Well Being, Carol’s advice includes:[*]
LOOK AT WHAT IS BEING DONE ELSEWHERE - and learn about the things that can go wrong http://publicsectorhrpodcast.co.uk/2...ou-do-it-well/ I think it might be time to take a bit of your own advice love. ;) |
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This has just prompted me to re-read my thread earlier this year about St George's Day.
Hands up, who said I was wrong about people being made to take England flags down because they might offend people? It's political correctness gone MAD....... |
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Have you not noticed? The whole country is awash with red-and-white? Hardly the sign of a proud nation cowed into silence by the heavy hand of authority. :rolleyes: |
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Don't think there's much chance of this lady (for want of a better word) going down the pub tonight with her England shirt on and draped in the cross fo saint George then;):rolleyes::D
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I've never read The Daily Mail or any other national paper but it's a prime example of an authority suppressing English pride on some spurious ground that it will offend someone, this time by looking unprofessional. Rishton Towers (and indeed this particular councillor) will be decked out in red and white for today's match and I can't think of a single decent reason why anyone anywhere should be made to hide their national identity during this period. |
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But it's a non story Ken as proved by the post from the member who works for LCC, flying the flag hasn't been banned as the story suggested
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Perhaps I should have said 'attempting' to suppress it.
Either way, there's nothing like a national event to bring these people out of the woodwork. Bless her heart. |
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Council’s ban on England flags - News - lep.co.uk |
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“We are excellent at managing people... We recognise that people are our best resource,” says Carol Mills, the PPMA national lead on wellbeing.
Has local government a future? - Times Online Yeah, really excellent Carol love. :rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: |
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Just told my daughter about this woman, can't really print what she said on a family web site but the last two words were silly bitch:D
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Incidentally, was there any dosh riding on this private bet you had? If so, you can buy me a pint when we eventually bump into each other! ;) |
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In all seriousness, it warms my heart to see so many flags out for a national event such as this and even though I am not a football fan myself I'll be happily going with the flow for however long it lasts. Any miserable killjoys that see a downside to waving your country's flag should be made to eat cold tripe. |
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http://www.bloodybrilliantblog.com/W...et%20voila.jpg :D |
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I'll be the one with the cross on top of my dome.
None of that hair stuff for me, reduces the aerodynamics considerably. |
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http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...siaface416.jpg :D |
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As for you not being a football fan, I'll be getting back to you on that one in a few weeks, when I start my annual recruitment drive! ;) |
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The flags and bunting are up at Rishton Towers today though, cheering on our brave boys! |
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Our residents lounge is decked out with flags, we have a new wide screen tv and the beers are cooling in the fridges ready for kick off. What more could you want?:D
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My bet is a stress therapy touch of a week off, (if England last that long), Then, when she comes back, bring her yearly, 'Investors in people', review to an earlier date and explain how to her, a happy staff is a happy staff, YOUR SACKED! |
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'Dinner ladies who patrol school playgrounds and dining rooms have been told they will no longer get a free school lunch or school holiday pay.'
'Carol Mills, director of human resources at County Hall, said: "As part of the equal pay review, new terms and conditions will be introduced for all our staff.' No more dinners for dinner ladies - News - lep.co.uk I bet she's a hoot at parties. |
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Although you do build a mental picture up of Ms. Mills. 'You are no longer able to eat that left over cabbage ladies, and you can take those bleedin' flags off the dinner trolley'. The decision about not being able to display flags, is down to her. (Good job you're not out canvassing at the moment, by the way.) :D |
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We had a bit of a debate about he issue. Myself disagreeing with you. Didn't really want to ignite old arguments. Just thought you'd get my gentle reminder. :p |
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you can fly the flag whenever you want it is not elegal they havent passed a low to say its elegal i will be flying mine after the football the car belongs to me i bought it nobody eles oh and car mirrors are more danderouse:D
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you can fly the flag whenever you want it is not elegal they havent passed a low to say its elegal i will be flying mine after the football the car belongs to me i bought it nobody eles oh and car mirrors are more danderouse:D
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oh to hell with it lets ban everything lol
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I remember saying that and I do stand by it - but I do think it's a different situation during the World Cup when everyone reclaims the flag from the racists thugs who have abused it for their own use. |
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We know that over in the USA - for all it's faults - people fly their flag and wear their lapel badges every day throughout the year. It would seem to me a good idea that every English town hall, school, municiple building, church, chapel and mosque should have a statutory obligation to fly the St George flag round the clock, failure to do so resulting in the most punitive of penalties. |
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Why should it just be during the World Cup? Unfortunately a certain group of people took the Union Jack and abused for their own racist purposes to the point where regular, normal, patriotic people got too scared to display the Union Jack for fear of looking as though they belonged to a racist sect. |
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Read this thread from the last time the World Cup was on, when the venue for an Accy Web meet was suspected of being a hot bed of neo-nazism, because they displayed a Union flag inside. Sadly it was also the year when Gayle didn't campaign at houses displaying the same Union Jack flag, as stated in the thread, fearing those places too would be inhabited by fascists. She lost, and so did democracy, if people still think of the national flag as being a symbol of far-right extremism. http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...nue-31787.html |
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If instead of little Hitlers being allowed to ban them from being flown, we follow the example of the obvious National Pride displayed by Eric & his fellow Canadians and flew the flags from just about every building across the land, the minorities that would use them for foul means would be forced away from disgracing these symbols of pride and design a rag of their own for others to spit on? :rolleyes: |
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In the seventies you did see the National Front marching with the Union flag.
However, if you ask most people today about the national flag being ambushed, and used for self promotion, Gerri Halliwell's dress at the Brits in 1997, and the whole Cool Britannia thing, such as Liam Gallagher and Patsy Kensit, draped in said flag on the cover of Vanity Fair in the same year, comes up more than any association with any far-right extremists, except in the eyes of wooly liberals, who are too keen to see offence, when there isn't any. |
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I wasn't saying that i was happy with the situation. Just saying that unless it's a great sporting event most people tend to tuck their flags away. How many will still be flying when England get knocked out in the quarter finals? I'd imagine that a lot of the flags will be destroyed in frustration at that point. In six months time how many flags will still be flying? |
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...and four years on I still totally disagree with your point of view, that if you see a flag, Union or English, outside of a football tournament, that has fascist connotations. Just as the best criminals never get caught, most right-wing extremists aren't skinheads, wearing Docs, and waving the Union Jack. You see many more Union Jacks at Proms in the Parks concerts, than you do at any extremist rallies nowadays. |
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ya should run fer parliment gayle.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:
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He was well educated, at Accy Grammar School, wasn't a skinhead, and nor did I ever see him with a Union Jack. He now runs a business in Oswaldtwistle, and if I'm not mistaken, known to someone who thinks national flags somehow equal nationalism. |
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In six months time when all the World Cup brewhaha has died down and we're losing at cricket and rugby again, I'll take you round a couple of houses, we'll find some reason to knock on the doors and we'll see what your impression of the residents is. Remember, I knocked on those doors four years ago. |
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And just for the record - I don't happen to like it. I think the flag should be able to be flown from a persons house without it having any connotations. I think the flag should be reclaimed, and perhaps it slowly is, perhaps we should all keep our flags up after the World Cup ends - I wonder how many people will though?
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Rather an odd position for me, being the least jingoistic person I know, defending people's right to display the national flags, but I honestly don't believe today, or for the past fifteen years or so, that there is any connotation between the Union, and English flags, and extremist politics. You really can't judge by appearance. As stated, the most disgusting racist I ever came into contact locally, I never saw with any British flag. |
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As for racists - I came across a very smart one in Pendle once and he didn't have a flag. I never once said that all racists came with it imprinted on their foreheads. |
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As for being in a minority, from the replies in the various threads, it isn't me that's in a minority. Ever since the Cool Britannia thing in the mid nineties, main stream fashion houses, from Hacketts to Harrods, have used both the imagery of the Union and St. George Cross flags, on everything from knitwear to cufflinks, with absolutely no connotation to right-wing politics. |
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Even in the late seventies, when the National Front could have said to have hijacked the Union flag, you also had the Mod revivalists, a very racially diverse youth culture, proudly displaying the Union Jack sewn on to the back of their parkas, and dancing to ska.
No one thought of them being the slightest bit racist. |
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Just be thankful he doesn't live in St. Andrew's ward. :D |
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I doubt I'd be so lucky a second time..... |
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Must be a false rumour then, that Last of the Summer Wine was ending. :rolleyes::D |
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And I think you will find that to be the case with many folk in the UK, they fly their flag as a matter of pride, not to make any sort of Nationalist statement. But there lies the problem ! Because when people think in the same way as you appear to be doing any signs of national pride are construed as having Nationalistic, extremist connotations & should therefore be brought to book. What a sorry state for a Country to be in, words fail me. |
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I wonder if she could help out Rhonda with her back/pelvis then. I spend ages massaging her feet and back to help her with her pain and I know you would offer to suck her toes again if it would help :rolleyes::D:D Tried the comfrey oil last night but not sure if the oil or the massaging helps most. |
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well when i was in preston today the st georges flag was flying over county hall .. so if theyre banning flags why is it flying over county hall then ...
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Great to see so many taxi drivers in Accrington today, flying the England flag.
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I would have thought that the Asian (muslim) cab drivers would have been quite proud to fly the Cross of St George; other than confirrming their English identity, they are also displaying the colours of a Palestinian who died for his refusal to compromise with someone who had hitherto been one of his best mates - Diocletian.
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The geezer ain't even bleedin' Ingerlish? Send him packin'. :D |
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Why don't people stick to the facts instead of the rubbish in the tabloid local rags. Our Office fully decorated, majority of our team in football shirts today which will be repeated next Wednesday. It's a matter for individual Managers to make decisions based on if employees are front or back office. Well done to our Managers for helping staff morale The flag over County Hall has been flying since last Friday ps Carol Mills is leaving and going to work for Merseyside Uni as their Director of HR |
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