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Tealeaf 23-06-2010 17:48

It's all over for Stanley....
 
That clown Barack Obama - grandson of a Mau-Mau terrorist - has just sacked the best General NATO/ISAF forces have had in Afganistan since the beginning of the conflict. I am disgusted. Stanley McCrystal simply spoke a few home truths about that anti-British idiot and his chums in the White House. Pathetic.

cashman 23-06-2010 18:32

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not really suprised, was talking to a yank who was oer here a couple of months ago n he had very little,if any good to say about the president.

katex 23-06-2010 18:42

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Annoyed me when he blamed BP for the oil leak, forgetting that it was the Yanks who were running the drilling operation ! Yes Tealeaf, he does appear to have an anti-British stripe through him.

steeljack 23-06-2010 18:46

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Seems McCrystals boss (Pratraus) has been put into the Afghan job , seems a bit odd since he was responsible for McCrystals actions by 'out-ranking' him .

just a note on Obama , yep he has lost a lot of support of late , the media who kow-towed and sang Hosanahs to him are now beginning to compare his actions to George Bushs during Katrina for his actions/or lack of to the Gulf oil spill , God help the folks down there if a hurricane blows in , the season starts in July .
Morning news showed a couple of spots in New Orleans with oil sheened streets after an overnight rain , maybe media hype will have to wait and see

Bernard Dawson 23-06-2010 19:19

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 823961)
That clown Barack Obama - grandson of a Mau-Mau terrorist - has just sacked the best General NATO/ISAF forces have had in Afganistan since the beginning of the conflict. I am disgusted. Stanley McCrystal simply spoke a few home truths about that anti-British idiot and his chums in the White House. Pathetic.


I wish you wouldn't do that. When I saw the thread title I thought you meant Accrington Stanley.

Tealeaf 23-06-2010 19:29

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 823992)
I wish you wouldn't do that. When I saw the thread title I thought you meant Accrington Stanley.

Oh dear. My apologies for any unintended confusion.

DaveinGermany 23-06-2010 19:35

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Doesn't this about sum it up ?

President Barack Obama ousted General Stanley McChrystal as the top US commander in Afghanistan on today, saying that his scathing published remarks about administration officials undermine civilian control of the military and erode the needed trust on the president's war team.

The Americans & British have been in Afghanistan for 9 years now, to the Americans this is getting to be a case of Deja vu from 45 years back & there are still enough people who remember what the interference of politicians did to the cause of the American Military once more the evening news is filled with body bags & firefights.

Politicians have caused the situation in the first instance, they should be kept out & the Military should be left to do & finish the Politicians screw ups, without further hindrance from people in offices who've never had to put their miserable lives on the line for their Countries edicts.

Tealeaf 23-06-2010 20:00

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I know Dave, that you were in the military but I don't think you did an Afgan tour. The reason this post is relevant is that as you are possibly aware the 1st Battalion Lancs has recently begun their six month tour; there were two fatalities last week, both originally Fijian guys. However, many of the battalion is recruited from NE Lancs and as such we have to prepare ourselves for casualties to come.

It does no good, therefore, when we have a commanding General who in his short tenure has gained the upmost respect from British and other forces but is then dismissed in this manner; his brief was to plan the campaign, fight the war and win it. That he has now been sacked because of some unguarded utterances will seriously undermine the morale of our forces there, including of course, the Lancs.

Anyway, looks like British General Nick Parker has taken interim command until Patreus shows up.

Wynonie Harris 23-06-2010 20:05

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Totally agree with Bernard. You nearly gave me a heart attack there! :eek:

Tealeaf 23-06-2010 20:21

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 823999)
Totally agree with Bernard. You nearly gave me a heart attack there! :eek:

Are you implying I may have deliberately titled this thread in order to suggest a different meaning? Would I do such a thing?:):):)

Wynonie Harris 23-06-2010 20:33

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 824001)
Are you implying I may have deliberately titled this thread in order to suggest a different meaning? Would I do such a thing?:):):)

Of course not. Knowing you as I do, I'm sure you wouldn't dream of doing such a thing and it was a totally unintended misunderstanding! ;)

cmonstanley 23-06-2010 20:53

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yep never trust anybody whos in bed with the murdoch empire.

Murdoch’s Daughter Hosts Obama Fund-Raiser - The Caucus Blog - NYTimes.com

jaysay 24-06-2010 09:26

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 823992)
I wish you wouldn't do that. When I saw the thread title I thought you meant Accrington Stanley.

For once Bernard I thought exactly the same thing as you:eek::eek:

jaysay 24-06-2010 09:30

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Ain't taken long for Obama to fall of his pedestal, as it, he's not really the savior of the world he was made out to be

DaveinGermany 24-06-2010 17:20

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 823998)
I know Dave, that you were in the military but I don't think you did an Afgan tour. The reason this post is relevant is that as you are possibly aware the 1st Battalion Lancs has recently begun their six month tour;

I know T, I left in 1993 saving me from having to serve in Afghanistan. As to the Lancs I know they're out there now, I had the pleasure of meeting some of the Lads when they were stationed here 2006-2008.

Sadly I think the Lancs will see a few more fatalities in the coming months. There has been more cases of direct fire casualties of late & it appears the taliban are stepping up their tactical attitude & developing the threat, I only hope the Lads keep low & move fast.

As to Obama his attitude is abysmal, he knows nothing about war fighting & its application, neither do his aides & advisers, Ok McChrystal made some out of turn comments, so what doesn't everyone ? A dressing down would've been sufficient & let the man carry on.

Obviously the great president of America & his aides feelings are far more important than the lives & feelings of those troops who are prepared to make such great sacrifice & by extension their families, in the cause for Americas freedom & at his & his predecessors behest.

accyman 25-06-2010 01:14

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obama still hasnt provided proof of nationality and is still extreemly reluctant to provide his birth certificate.He also has let slip that he is still a practicing muslim so i cant see him been around after teh next elections.Hes also encouraged teh building of a super mosque on the site of 9/11 ground zero which is going to be built by the look of things.Also it has emerged he smokes weed and has taken crack cocaine.

the guys just one big joke and a huge embarrassment for america but fingers crossed the CIA may have a plan for him similar to the one they had for J.F.K

( allegedly ) :D

and i thought bush was an idiot at least he was an american idiot lol

steeljack 25-06-2010 01:40

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 824226)
obama still hasnt provided proof of nationality and is still extreemly reluctant to provide his birth certificate.He also has let slip that he is still a practicing muslim so i cant see him been around after teh next elections.Hes also encouraged teh building of a super mosque on the site of 9/11 ground zero which is going to be built by the look of things.Also it has emerged he smokes weed and has taken crack cocaine.

the guys just one big joke and a huge embarrassment for america but fingers crossed the CIA may have a plan for him similar to the one they had for J.F.K

( allegedly ) :D

and i thought bush was an idiot lol

Guess you missed the news that he also used to visit a Sauna (Gay Bath-house) on Chicago's south-side during his time in the Illinois State Senate .

Couple of points ....
re. Birth Certificate ....why should he produce it , check the back copies of the Honolulu Times his birth announcment is listed in the "Birth, Deaths and Marriages"
re. on his being a Muslim ..... don't think so , his step-father was a Muslim and the family lived in Indonesia for a while and attended school there , half the kids born in Accrington have at least one Muslim parent, many of whom have spent time outside the country .... you think they should be barred from any elected office .
re. Mosque in NYC a Mosque was on the site before Sept 11 , its just a rebuild .
re. Drug use .... Think folks who live in glass houses should think twice about statements like that , you don't think Blair, Cameron or Clegg ever inhaled .
re. 'CIA' plot to take him out , just hope thats sick thinking on your part , maybe your just anti-American and want to see every major American city go up in flames .

incidentally , I am not an Obama supporter and didn't vote for him ,not because he's 'black' but because of his policies , but he was elected and we and all our dpendant poodles and lap-dogs have to live with it . ;)

accyman 25-06-2010 02:06

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 824229)
re. 'CIA' plot to take him out , just hope thats sick thinking on your part , maybe your just anti-American and want to see every major American city go up in flames .

no i think you will find that was the aim of a different group of people (9/11 cough) and i dont think 1 president getting assainated would cause the entire collapse and destruction of america they seemed to get along just fine after kenedy got shot ;).As for been anti american i have many american friends online who were born in america and every single one of them think theres somthing off with aboma in a big way even the members on an american forum i have been a member of for 11 years who i dont agree with me on many things are the ones showing great suspicion about obama

re: half the kids born in Accrington have at least one Muslim parent - you dont know accrington very well do you beacuse in no way do half the kids in accrington have a muslim parent.Unless there has been an incredible rise in the muslim comunity in accrington your figures are way out and yes i do think a muslim shoud not be allowed to be prime minister we are a christian country and should be governed by a christian although not a complete bible basher


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