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claytonender 02-07-2010 00:31

Peel By-election result
 
The result of the Peel by-election was

Wendy Dwyer (The Labour Party candidate) 596 votes which was 75.92%
Danny Cassidy (The Conservative candidate) 189 votes which was 24.08%

Total Votes Cast 785 votes


There was a swing to Labour from Conservatives was 4.18%

steeljack 02-07-2010 03:34

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just out of curiosty how many people are on the electoral role for that ward ;)

garinda 02-07-2010 07:20

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Whoo-hoo!

Congratulations Wendy.

You are someone I'm lucky enough to have got to know, and respect, through the Parkinson's support group you founded. I know you'll serve the people you represent well.

Best wishes, and see you tomorrow x

cashman 02-07-2010 07:53

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Don't know the lass, but well done. its n hard act to follow good luck n sure ya will suceed.:)

garinda 02-07-2010 12:06

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 825826)
Don't know the lass, but well done. its n hard act to follow good luck n sure ya will suceed.:)

They've done a swap.

Wendy retired from the County Council, due to personal circumstances, which have since changed, and Graham Jones won her old seat, of Accrington South.

Now she's taken over as a councillor in his old ward, Peel.

She's a human dynamo. I wish I had half her energy.

Bernard Dawson 02-07-2010 14:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 825800)
just out of curiosty how many people are on the electoral role for that ward ;)


The official figure is 3.200 voters. But we have a lot of empty properties in the ward.It's probably nearer to 3.000.

It wasn't a great turnout yesterday for the by-election.But that's not uncommon for local Government by-elections.

Bernard Dawson 02-07-2010 14:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 825862)
They've done a swap.

Wendy retired from the County Council, due to personal circumstances, which have since changed, and Graham Jones won her old seat, of Accrington South.

Now she's taken over as a councillor in his old ward, Peel.

She's a human dynamo. I wish I had half her energy.

Youre right, she is a human dynamo. Some of the opposition were suggesting that she might be to old to stand. Which had the effect of making her more determined to win.

garinda 02-07-2010 14:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 825885)
Youre right, she is a human dynamo. Some of the opposition were suggesting that she might be to old to stand. Which had the effect of making her more determined to win.

I heard some of the opposition, rather desperately, questioned her age.

As stated, she has more get up and go than I have.

Wendy is someone I have a great deal of respect for, and would be more than happy to have her representing me on the council.

I was really happy when she told me she was going to stand, and am even happier now she's won.

:)

jaysay 02-07-2010 16:24

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Forward looking progress Labour Party;)

Barrie Yates 02-07-2010 16:27

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Rough calculations - in my head - Elected by some 15% of the ward population? I would suggest that a great deal of apathy exists in the ward.

Bernard Dawson 02-07-2010 16:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 825908)
Rough calculations - in my head - Elected by some 15% of the ward population? I would suggest that a great deal of apathy exists in the ward.

The turnout Barrie, was was just short of 26%. Not great, but consistent with a lot of Local Government by-elections

garinda 02-07-2010 18:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 825908)
Rough calculations - in my head - Elected by some 15% of the ward population? I would suggest that a great deal of apathy exists in the ward.

Well certainly all the Conservatives in the ward seem to have been too apathetic to get off their arses, and vote.

:rolleyes:

ClarePritchard 02-07-2010 20:36

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Wendy is a LOVELY person and I've no doubt she'll be a wonderful addition to the Labour Group. Can't stand negative, personal campaigning which is frankly stupid. Wendy has more drive and determination than people half her age. Well done Wendy xxx

Ken Moss 03-07-2010 05:57

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Another victory for common sense voting and one in the eye for anyone who said she's over the hill.

The best person for the job won, as it should be.

g jones 03-07-2010 06:42

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Wendy is dedicated. Voter turnout down by a 1000 because many people only vote in general elections. In Peel there are a lot of empty houses and people not not on the roll due to the private rented sector.

As happens in Laboir areas. If it is close people make the effort. If it is Laboir dominated people take a more relaxed attitude.

Barrie Yates 03-07-2010 06:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 825920)
The turnout Barrie, was was just short of 26%. Not great, but consistent with a lot of Local Government by-elections

I did see what the turnout was Bernard - I commented on the % of the population that actually voted for the winning candidate.
IMHO that shows apathy right across the political spectrum.

steeljack 03-07-2010 06:57

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sorry about the above posts , but how old ( years) is this woman who has been elected ? .... seems to me she is just another old recycled Labour politician who can claim 'legal' expenses to top up her pension .. bit like the woman ( from Rossendale who was kicked out from the County Council and ended up as a director of the Queens Park (Royal) Hospital

and who says local poitics suck

Ken Moss 03-07-2010 07:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 826015)
sorry about the above posts , but how old ( years) is this woman who has been elected ? .... seems to me she is just another old recycled Labour politician who can claim 'legal' expenses to top up her pension .. bit like the woman ( from Rossendale who was kicked out from the County Council and ended up as a director of the Queens Park (Royal) Hospital

and who says local poitics suck

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but if you think that being an opposition councillor is in any way a lucrative deal then you should try it.

You don't usually get to chair any committees (£1,500 per year extra, on average), there are dozens of meetings to attend each month, ward work with the residents, e-mails and telephone calls to answer every day and a lot of earache for a monthly take home pay of around £250.

It equates to around one day's pay each week and is bloody hard work for those who really want to make a difference. I'm rarely one for telling someone that they are out-and-out wrong but in this instance I'm afraid you are.

Just look at the committee chair places that our esteemed leader has awarded himself and compare that to any opposition councillor:

Councillors - Peter Britcliffe

garinda 03-07-2010 07:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 826015)
sorry about the above posts , but how old ( years) is this woman who has been elected ? .... seems to me she is just another old recycled Labour politician who can claim 'legal' expenses to top up her pension .. bit like the woman ( from Rossendale who was kicked out from the County Council and ended up as a director of the Queens Park (Royal) Hospital

and who says local poitics suck

Pathetic.

I don't know how old she is. She has children my age, and I'm forty five. So go figure.

She is one of the kindest, dedicated, intelligent, and passionate people I have the pleasure to have got to know.

She'd run circles, literally, round people half her age. Plus she brings with her a wealth of experience.

Ageism is as stupid as any other form of prejudice.

Besides, the seat will be up for grabs again in 22 months.

Twenty two months in which Wendy will work her socks off for the people of Peel.

Haven't you heard that we are all being told we'll have to work until we drop in this country, before the government will give people a bus pass and a state pension?

garinda 03-07-2010 07:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 826015)
sorry about the above posts , but how old ( years) is this woman who has been elected ? .... seems to me she is just another old recycled Labour politician who can claim 'legal' expenses to top up her pension .. bit like the woman ( from Rossendale who was kicked out from the County Council and ended up as a director of the Queens Park (Royal) Hospital

and who says local poitics suck


Is this bitterness down to you being thrown out of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, because you've no longer got the habit?

:rolleyes:

steeljack 03-07-2010 07:25

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sorry Ken , but I allways remember my old Grandads words... "anybody who works for nowt is a thief " ;) ;)

garinda 03-07-2010 07:30

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 826024)
sorry Ken , but I allways remember my old Grandads words... "anybody who works for nowt is a thief " ;) ;)

Take it your grandad never went to Calcutta, and met Mother Theresa?

Ken Moss 03-07-2010 07:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 826024)
sorry Ken , but I allways remember my old Grandads words... "anybody who works for nowt is a thief " ;) ;)

A thief is someone who takes something that doesn't belong to them and isn't bothered about the consequences.

Just remember this, who ever is in control of Hyndburn Council next year is completely and utterly screwed because of the way Peter Britcliffe is spending the money in the pot. If the Conservatives remain in control after next year's local elections the excuse for penny-pinching will be laid at the door of the previous government and if Labour gain control then it will be reported by the Tories that they are an inept local party.

Peter Britcliffe is about to destroy the Hyndburn coffers and it needs reporting now before he leaves us in financial ruin. If he carries on the way he's going then everyone in Hyndburn will suffer badly next year.

steeljack 03-07-2010 07:38

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Hey , wheres the bitterness from , all I'm asking is why some old recycled politico should be elected , where are the young folks ... the ones who need a voice in what going on , not some owd weaver/winder/spinner who's best memories go back to the days of Johnny Ray

cashman 03-07-2010 07:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 826024)
sorry Ken , but I allways remember my old Grandads words... "anybody who works for nowt is a thief " ;) ;)

Funny my grandad used to say the same n much other stuff that turned out to be nonsense, his generation were ignorant steely, through no fault of there own, were lucky in a sense as information is easily available to us, they knew nowt really.

garinda 03-07-2010 07:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 826029)
Hey , wheres the bitterness from , all I'm asking is why some old recycled politico should be elected , where are the young folks ... the ones who need a voice in what going on , not some owd weaver/winder/spinner who's best memories go back to the days of Johnny Ray

In the recent local elections there were candidates from their early twenties to people in their seventies.

Rishton, a couple of years ago, elected the youngest local councillor in the whole of the country.

Elections are open to candidates of all ages.

The parties choose who they think is the most suitable candidate, then the electotrate decides who they think will best represent them...regardless of anything as superfical as age.

The best candidate therefore wins.

It's called democracy.

garinda 03-07-2010 07:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 826029)
Hey , wheres the bitterness from , all I'm asking is why some old recycled politico should be elected , where are the young folks ... the ones who need a voice in what going on , not some owd weaver/winder/spinner who's best memories go back to the days of Johnny Ray

This from someone who proudly lives in a country who twice elected a geriatric B-movie 'star', who was acted off the screen by a chimpanzee.

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

steeljack 03-07-2010 07:51

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 826031)
Funny my grandad used to say the same n much other stuff that turned out to be nonsense, his generation were ignorant steely, through no fault of there own, were lucky in a sense as information is easily available to us, they knew nowt really.

just 2 simple example Bono and Geldorf ;)

Ken Moss 03-07-2010 07:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 826029)
Hey , wheres the bitterness from , all I'm asking is why some old recycled politico should be elected , where are the young folks ... the ones who need a voice in what going on , not some owd weaver/winder/spinner who's best memories go back to the days of Johnny Ray

Most people work during the day which is when the Conservatives have decided all our meetings have to be.

I am in the lucky position of being self-employed and can award myself the time off as and when required but it's still not very convenient and I'm not bringing home any bacon during peak earning times.

The only people generally free during the day are Hyndburn Conservatives and those who have retired.

garinda 03-07-2010 07:58

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 826036)
just 2 simple example Bono and Geldorf ;)


Yes, simple.

No mention of the thousands and thousands of people, who quietly go about their work, for charities for example, who work to help others, without renumeration, or for what they can steal as 'thieves'.

If people go into local politics thinking it'll make them rich, they're as ignorant of the facts, as those that think age is a handicap to doing a good job.

steeljack 03-07-2010 07:59

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 826035)
This from someone who proudly lives in a country who twice elected a geriatric B-movie 'star', who was acted off the screen by a chimpanzee.

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

You mean the guy who was responsible for the fall of the "Berlin Wall ' the guy who made it so easy for Westen Europe to be invaded by the dross of Eastern Europe or was that Tony and Chriee Blairs fault

cashman 03-07-2010 08:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 826036)
just 2 simple example Bono and Geldorf ;)

Whats that to do wi the price of fish? each generation has a portion of "Good"/Bad", intelligent/ ignorant, theres a damn sight less now, in comparison to our grandads generation. quoting those 2 is really clutching at straws.;):D

garinda 03-07-2010 08:02

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 826039)
You mean the guy who was responsible for the fall of the "Berlin Wall ' the guy who made it so easy for Westen Europe to be invaded by the dross of Eastern Europe or was that Tony and Chriee Blairs fault


Yes, that's your man.

Someone, who by your ageist standards, shouldn't have stood for election to the Whitehouse, but made way for a young whipper-snapper.

I'm afraid you can't have it both ways.

;)

garinda 03-07-2010 08:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 826039)
You mean the guy who was responsible for the fall of the "Berlin Wall ' the guy who made it so easy for Westen Europe to be invaded by the dross of Eastern Europe or was that Tony and Chriee Blairs fault

So, from your glowing eulogy for President Reagan, he did a good job, despite his old age, and Tony Blair, at the time the youngest Prime Minister since 1812, made a balls up of things?

Rather shot yourself in the foot there, regarding your comments about Wendy Dwyer's age being a handicap to her doing a good job as a local councillor.

;)

steeljack 03-07-2010 08:10

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yep , I allways thought the guy was a clown, but history proves me wrong , just the same as George Bush , the guy was not as bad has a been reported .

garinda 03-07-2010 08:12

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 826043)
yep , I allways thought the guy was a clown, but history proves me wrong , just the same as George Bush , the guy was not as bad has a been reported .

First history, now me.

Must be tough, always being wrong.

;)

:D

steeljack 03-07-2010 08:17

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sorry I have no idea about the age of the new Councillor , just seems wrong to me for 'professional" politicians jumping from one seat to another just to stay in power (and draw/extend any retirement benefits from council /local Govt. service

garinda 03-07-2010 08:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 826046)
sorry I have idea about the age of the new Councillor , just seems wrong to me for 'professional" politicians jumping from one seat to another just to stay in power (and draw/extend any retirement benefits from council /local Govt. service

Without going into details, she only stood down from LCC, because she had personal commitments, which have now changed, because her husband sadly passed away.

Ken Moss 03-07-2010 08:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 826046)
sorry I have no idea about the age of the new Councillor , just seems wrong to me for 'professional" politicians jumping from one seat to another just to stay in power (and draw/extend any retirement benefits from council /local Govt. service

Spot on.

Wendy decided she would be the new Peel councillor and so she simply stepped in, no questions asked.

The election was all a front.

garinda 03-07-2010 15:01

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I was with her today, at the Parkinson's support group she founded.

I have nothing but respect for the woman.

She cares about people, and what she can do to help them, with no thought about what's in it for herself.

Over fifty people enjoyed lunch, friendship, and support, all thanks to her initiative, and get up and go attitude.

I'd genuinely vote for her, whichever party she stood for.

Barrie Yates 03-07-2010 15:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 826040)
Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 826036)
just 2 simple example Bono and Geldorf

Whats that to do wi the price of fish? each generation has a portion of "Good"/Bad", intelligent/ ignorant, theres a damn sight less now, in comparison to our grandads generation. quoting those 2 is really clutching at straws.;):D

May be wrong Cashy but thought those two weren't even English - always thought they were Irish - from Eire, which is not part of the United Kingdom and Northern ireland?

Has someone been imbibing too much Lone Star beer - the 2.1% variety?;);):D

accysimon 03-07-2010 15:27

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However old she is, she will represent her constituents far far far better than most tory councillors.


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