Cold Winter Fuel Payments for Pensioners to be cut
 

Winter fuel payments 'to be cut' - Channel 4 News

All of a sudden this payment is classed as a "hand out" ...now I recall some Tory tea boy calling me a liar when I said cold winter payments would be cut... where are you now?

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And if you need more Info this is from the man himself..Nick Clegg....
Clegg gets specific on cuts: Lib Dems to cut winter fuel payments for under-65s

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When the toffs are all cosy in front of their nice log fires in their nice cory homes ,will they give a damm,,i think not
LIBERALS have a lot to answer for,,,TORIES its just par for the course,,,,,,,,IMHO

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I don't think the payments should be cut, but I do think the rules for who qualifies for them needs addressing.

Discussing the issue on Radio 2 yesterday, there were calls from people who lived permanently in Spain, and even Australia, who said they got the money for winter fuel.

That is ridiculous.

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I agree it is ridiculous, aint gonna happen though,its much simpler to raise the age n harm the have-nots.:rolleyes: which has always been the aim of ANY Tory government.

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A means tested system is expensive (manpower wise) to administer, and, while they are intent on cutting the number of civil servants, it seems more likely to me that the qualifying age rise will be the cheap easy way.

Hopefully they will lessen the blow by saying that all between 60 and 65 who have already been getting it will continue to get it, but I wouldn't bet on it.

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Which was going to be done by Labour if they were elected it has been pencilled in ever since the raising of the retirement age was first muted. I have always said why should people like Margaret Thatcher get winter fuel allowances when she quite obviously doesn't need it, but I'll let Mancie run to her defence and insist that she still receives it

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I agree the rules etc should be looked at first and that could save money. Also the winter fuel payment could be given to a household and not individual people. Why do couples get double to warm the same house as a single person it dosen't cost anymore because there are 2 people in the house. Also people in nursing homes etc When my mother in law was in Hilltop in Baxenden she got the allowance and it went to her personally not to heat the home.

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Agree anzac, to me another thing that should be looked at is child benefit, I can understand why a footballer playing for say Manchester United or Liverpool earning £120,000 a week, get child benefit, seems all wrong to me

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You don't get double the heating allowance if you are a couple. It is per household.(or certainly it was for us last year)

These people between 60 and 67 are going to be out at work anyway...aren't they? With the pensionable age going up then it means that they wouldn't qualify as pensioners.
This benefit is what keeps pensioners warm in the harsh winter months.......do the government care if they lose a few pensioners?...it will mean they pay out less money all round

And before Mancie jumps on my bones.......I don't agree with the plans to cut the benefit......and I do think it could be distributed differently.

Also Mancie I think you should stop doing what the media do....using ambiguous(?misleading) language to sensationalise a point.
At the moment this is all conjecture and supposition, and if there is a change it will not be that the benefit is removed entirely...so some households would still qualify....as for the rest of us, well we would just have to be careful and choose our priorities......heat or eat!

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Because the Ice Palace would melt?

:rolleyes:

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Maybe it would be better if you had to apply for the Winter heating allowance, rather that it just be given out......then perhaps those who are well off would not claim it.

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ya got too much faith in people margaret, as a paperboy i found most of the well off, to be real mingebags at christmas.;)

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humbug!!!:

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Love um Beni have a bag every weekend:D

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The same criteria could be used that applies to other benefits Margaret, I sure as hell think that people who are well of, or are living abroad shouldn't receive winter fuel allowance, I know of somebody who moved to the states a few years ago, but they still get this payment through a address of a relative in England, its totally wrong in my eyes

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I would not apply for something that I did not need.......also inertia accounts for a lot...sometimes if folk have to do something to obtain a benefit they don't go to the trouble. Yes Cashy, I know there are folk that have much and seem to go through life with a closed fist.....they must be really sad people.

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Quite agree Margaret, and unfortunately they don't all have a blue rosette pinned on their jacket as cashy seems to imply;)

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If it's not pinned on their jackets, it's probably tattooed on thier asses.:D

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Bloody Hell Eric....if our coffin dodgers got cold weather payments plus top up depending on severity( based on the Canadian winter) they'd all be getting about 30K a year.

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Right yons me comment, wheres "This" Implication?:confused: but as you've brought it up, i would assume most mingebags are Tory leaning.:D:rolleyes:

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Well one of the bigest scoungers I've ever known always had Vote Labour Posters in every window at elction times;)

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Still waiting fer ya to highlight where i made this implication?:rolleyes:

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Hey, you two...stop acting like politicians :)

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There's a big difference between cashy and me and politicians Margaret, we actually get on very well it just appears we're always at loggerheads :D

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Only cos you won't admit the truth!:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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And I make exceptions for you:tongueout:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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See, you are still at it........arguing the toss like a couple of wayward backbenchers from opposite sides of the house :)

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:eek: I cannot write what I thought when I saw the word 'toss';):eek:
..as in 'pair of':D

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was the word you wanted 'tosspots'....No, didn't think it was Margaret. :)

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:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:And there was me thinking you two were ladies and whiter than the driven snow:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::D

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John what gave you that idea? We have both lead full lives and have in the course of those lives come into contact with the worn and the worldly....and some of it rubbed off! :)

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Whilst thinking and maybe dreading what your winter fuel bills might be, spare a thought for this old dear who has been refused help:rolleyes:

Queen tried to use state poverty fund to heat Buckingham Palace - Home News, UK - The Independent

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well by even asking, just shows how in touch wi public opinion these people are.:rolleyes:

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Well I think we should have a whip round for the old dear, don't want her to get her tootsies cold during the winter:D

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Typical Independent - the Queen did not apply for it - one of the staff did.
I agree with the decision and still cannot understand why she needs four palaces - at least two if not three should be given up.
However, the government would still have to pick up the tab for maintenance and upkeep of them, but she and her successors could always go to a Commonwealth country for a holiday, rather than Windsor, Sandringham or Balmoral.

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She could always come to Accy for Christmas...

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You lot yap on about the good old days when people had respect for Queen and country yet complian about kids today showing no respect..make your minds up ;)

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I was listening to an old Goon Show (Tales of Old Dartmoor) that had Seagoon referring to a con man prisoner who was no longer inside - he'd become an MP.

We talk about a lack of respect as if it's a new phenomenon, whereas it's always been with us. If kids lack respect it's because of the way we taught them, or taught their parents. We only have ourselves to blame, folks.

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Depends on how old you are, I was brought up to respect my parents, teachers, police, in fact was taught the difference between right and wrong, I'm now 64 and still hold those values today

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I will send her some thermal socks and undies and a flask of warming soup. :p

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If you visit the Market Hall Arts Centre :rolleyes: you can learn how to crochet a wooly hat

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I still do respect the Queen Mancie - I took the oath 3 times. Can't say I have the same respect for Charles, Andrew and Edward.
Wills & Harry along with the Princess Royal and her children are a different class, any of the latter I would support fully.

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I would like the crown to go straight to William when Liz kicks it, would do wonders for the Monarchy and would be a great King

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So, your hoping Charles dies before his mum are you, what a wonderfully Christian attitude.
:o

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He could abdicate a la Edward VIII before the Coronation.:)

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No Less, was meaning that I would prefer Charlie to stand aside and let William take the crown when he is still young and vibrant

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Great minds think alike Barrie ( except on footy:D)

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No footy comments until later this evening:D

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This is my irst year in claiming the heating allowance and just my luck they are knocking it off... or can they if they have already informed me i will recieve it????

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Nobody has said its beng knocked of yet, except Mancie;)