Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 839055)

My views on the French, I believe are well understood but in this instance (along with the Burka/Niquab) the French Government actually seem to be listening to their people. Now whether you agree or not doesn't really matter, what is important is that those elected are seen to be listening & acting upon their voters requests,(which I seem to recall was the reason for putting people into power) if only those values could be transferred to our present incumbents what a happy land we'd be.

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 839736)

You raise an interesting point here .... the French Government does tend to listen to the people. And why does the French Government listen, when other authorities seem to ignore the wishes of the people:confused:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 839734)

Agree with you on this .... I think that you and I are a tad more conservative, in a positive sense, than is Jaysay.;):D. I think that the only things that Conservatives wish to conserve are their positions of privelege. No doubt, they would like to return to the days of The Anarchy, which gave rise to the rule of law.

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 839739)

Maybe because they have a history of (being) revolting;)

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 839748)

The only privelege I have Eric is being a member of Accy Web:D :p

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 839880)

you also have the privelege of living in the United Kingdom, a country with a system of law that applies to everyone.

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 839876)

Don't understand all this antipathy to the French , seems to me if the Brits had supported the French in 39/40 instead of retreating (evacuating/running away) at Dunkirk and stood and fought maybe the war would have been over sooner , but lets not forget the Brits had no Empire/Commonwealth troops to sacrifice/use as canon fodder , like at Dieppe or Gallipoli , lets be honest here, the Empire/Commonwealth death toll was a lot higher per head of population than that of the motherland :confused: ;) :rolleyes: :D

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 839882)

Thats news to me eric:confused::confused::confused::confused:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 839884)

Maybe I could suggest Alistair Horne: "To Lose a Battle: France 1940."

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 839882)

Thats news to me eric:confused::confused::confused::confused:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 839887)

Really:eek: I read it in the "Daily Mail";):D

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 838249)

Generally speaking, I have no time for our Gallic friends south of the Channel. However, I am now starting to develop a sneaky admiration for the way in which they put their own citizens first and completely ignore any of this european human rights nonsense.

Today, our garlic-munching chums began to implement the policy of expelling Roma (aka gypos or travellers) back to their country of origin, mainly Rumania and Bulgaria. These characters have formed squatter camps all over the place and as such crime rates have rocketed wherever they are to be found.

I saw a similar picture of our East European neighbours in Peterborough only the other week...camps set up in parks, by roadsides...even in the middle of a roundabout. What do we do about it? Absolutely nowt. And it is the same with our traveller friends who frequently visit Hyndburn, many of them from Southern Ireland. We can't even move them on - never mind kick 'em out the country. I think the last excuse in Church was that one of 'em was waiting for a hospital appointment.

The first planeloads left France today. Good news for the French, but I have a suspicion that they won't be in their home country for long but will shortly be turning up in merry England. What will we do? Probably give them housing, welfare, medical care and of course, legal aid to avoid expulsion.

Lets see what happens.

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 839880)

And a well-liked and well-respected member, too. But you also have the privelege of living in the United Kingdom, a country with a system of law that applies to everyone.

Originally Posted by kikine (Post 840145)

A system of law, Mmmm. I have a national insurance number, pay my taxes including council tax, I put my name on a census yearly, I pay car parking charges, car tax and insurance. If I didn't do these things, I would be in trouble. Our laws apply to everyone but they certainly aren't implemented with the Roma. Ask each and everyone of them for a NI number and they would move quicker than their Vada could take them!;)