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"Former Prime Minister Tony Blair has received the Liberty Medal for his global human rights work and commitment to international conflict resolution."

Seeing as he was the No 2 player to the US (the poodle), and committed us to war in Iraq and Afghanistan - our chaps are still dying there.
This presentation just makes me want to puke.:mad::mad::mad:

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Total sleazeball. ;)

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I cannot say what I really think about this stunt.

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Is that rhyming slang, Margaret?

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well i took it that way.:D

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I think he was and is a great man who history will judge well.

Anyone would believe that Tony Blair single-handedly took the country to war. Frankly, it’s getting boring.

Tony Blair was a great Prime Minister. It was absolutely the right decision to remove Saddam from power. Granted, he may not have had WMD anymore, but he had used them before on his own people and against Iran. I don’t think Blair lied at all, perhaps sometimes the simplest explanation is the truth: the intelligence was wrong.
Blair was instrumental in bringing peace to NI and successfully intervening in Sierra Leone and Kosovo. He won 3 general elections with landslides. Truly a great man.”

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ok lets have yer reasoning as to why it was the right thing to do? theres far more dangerous people/countries to world peace than saddam, evil pig though he was, they don't remove others cos theres little value to us to do so, think yer totally wrong, he will be judged fer what he is imho.

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Steve, on this....I plead the fifth amendment.....my answer may incriminate me:)

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Well, of course you are entitled to your own opinion.......he was a master of smoke an mirrors, he was the Puppet/poodle of the US.......and when they said 'jump'....he not only jumped, but asked 'how high and for how long'.

He did more to demolish the identity of the people of the UK in favour of the ethnic minorities, he allowed unlimited immigration on the assumption that these people coming in would swell the Labour vote.....he didn't use policies, he used sound bites......telling the electorate what he thought they needed to hear.

He took us to war in Iraq(without the mandate of the people and knowing that it was not a decision that was popular with the electorate) on the premise that there were weapons of Mass Destruction, despite the UN having found no evidence to corroborate this.
It wasn't all about getting rid of an evil dictator.......it was all about oil and the money that it generates.

He high tailed it when he could see that the game was up, left the country being run by the most pathetic PM we have had in living memory.......and he knew GB wasn't up to the job.......what does that say about him?
He may not have done all these things on his own but he was the figurehead of the party that sanctioned them and is therefore ultimately responsible.


He is a dulpicitous megalomaniac with only one idea in his head....to make himself millions and to be seen as the saviour of the world.


He is a liar and a scoundrel.

Go to Hell Tony Blair...I will see you there. PBWY

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It's never to late to repent. Church every sunday and a few times a week, prayers at night and in the morning, say grace before every meal..and you never know, you may go up to the clouds and not down to the fires below.

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what n accurate post, the bad he did far,far outweighs the good,in my book,n as fer who took oer well the only thing i can add to that, is we have now got Dumb n Dumber, in command, so basically were in the crap fer the foreseeable future n sod all we can do about it.:rolleyes:

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I will have friends in both places Tealeaf.

I reckon Saint Tony will be pretty close to the fire, in fact I think he will have a shovel with no handle.
Mephistopheles knows his own!

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A Liberty Medal.....Tony Blair does deserve the Liberty medal....after all he took liberties with the truth. Didn't he tell us that he would be 'Tough on Crime....Tough on the Causes of crime'....well that was a liberty for a kick off.......then there was 'Education, Education, Education.........another liberty.
Wasn't it on his watch that the Chancellor GB sold off the gold reserves at rock bottom prices?
Didn't he ride rough shod over the MP's who spoke in opposition to military action in Iraq.
Didn't he skirt around the issues at the Hutton enquiry into the death of Dr David Kelly?

Yes, he is adept at taking Liberties, so I guess he has won the medal.
I only hope to live long enough to see this snake get his just desserts.

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Perhaps the Tory poster - "Devil Eyes" or something like that was prophetic.
The jury will be out for some time on the present incumbents, but allowance does have to be made for the unholy mess created by the Blair/Brown combination.
What really confuses me is that Blair did not think that Brown could be either a good PM or a good leader of the Labour Party - his words, yet he appointed him as his successor.
Was he attepting to obfuscate the situation by appointing Brown, knowing that he would be seen as a worse Premier than he had been. As MargaretP said - Smoke & Mirrors.
Many people will remember - for a very long time, the continuing cost in human lives through his actions, the scandals of their property deals, the openly money grabbing actions of his wife - IMHO a coyote girl.
Slink away Mr Blair - the greatest thing you can do for this country - and take dipstick with you.

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It doesn't confuse me Barrie........it is a ploy to make himself look better.
When someone like GB comes in and makes a dogs breakfast of things, it makes what the previous incumbent did, pale into insignificance.

But my concern is that Tony Blair knew that GB had neither the charm or the intellect to lead the Labour party, but he was too much of a coward to do the decent thing and appoint someone else(either that or GB knows some really dirty stuff about TB).

What kind of patriot leaves the country to be run by someone who patently wasn't fit for the task?

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Demon Eyes Barrie, think I've even got one somewhere, will put it on here if I can find it

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You are all alone on this one my friend ! If you look at the comments I think the judgements have already been made & that is from across the spectrum of political persuasions.

As to your second point - He did ! If all those who are coming out of the woodwork now are to be believed, it appears most of his compatriots were against the war & told him so in no uncertain terms, but guess what ! We ended up embroiled in this travesty because he wanted it to appease his mate in the White house & profligate the "Special relationship"

Great Man ? I really don't think so.

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Well they say you can't fool all the people all of the time, don't really need to bother with you, gullibility personified. Notice he never bothered to pop over to Zimbabwe and get ride of the evil tow rag there, but of course there's no oil there.

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Thanks Jay - must be old age, but I was close:D

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I think you're right,history will be kind to him. The Tories generally don't like him because no matter which leader they chose, they couldn't lay a glove on him.

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I've got news for you, Bernard, there's FAR more than just the Tories who don't like him. Quite a lot in your own party for a start, not to mention vast swathes of the general public. The responses on this thread should tell you something!

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Bernard mate,where the hell did ya go fer that pint?:D:confused: i know quite a few Labour @ Ex Labour that worship the ground he'll be buried under.:rolleyes:

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Well I reckon that is true.. I'd say the only difference between Blair, Thatcher and John Major concerning wars is that The Falkland war and the first war against Saddam ended in victory...the second war with Iraq is on hold and not yet won.. Afghanistan is a long term war that is lead by NATO... as for Blair it maybe a hard pill to swallow, but if he had stayed for another election we would not have this hell bent on destruction Tory Government we have endend up with.

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I'll say Blair was the worse Prime Minister since Chamberlian when it comes to foriegn affairs..but he did have an impact on the recovery of this country which is now forgotten.. he was wrong to go to war in Iraq and he was wrong to defend Isreal on the attack on Lebanon.. but he was right to introduce the minimum wage and was right to increase the NHS spending.. take yer chioce .

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You guys don't have a Fifth Ammendment .... try a fifth of scotch instead, and then say what you like;)

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Eric, I know we don't...I was using poetic licence.........No thanks on the Scotch, it is the Devils wee wee.

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What a pity he just threw money at the NHS in order to make cheap headlines. The end result is huge swathes of bureacracy, red tape, quangos and a ruinously expensive IT system which doesn't deliver. If only that money had been spent on patient care. :rolleyes:

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One hell of a big difference Mancie old chap the Falklands was British Sovereign Territory, invaded by a foreign aggressor and was totally justified

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No need to add to that Wyn, but throwing money at any problem has always been Labours way, that's why we're so much in debt

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And from personal experience(I worked in that organisation).......How I echo your thoughts of the money being spent on patient care....instead of another useless layer of management to achieve government driven targets that meant nothing.

Money and opportunites to help ordinary people wasted.

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IF I HAD TO CHOOSE RESPECT BETWEEN TONY BLAIR and MAGGIE THATCHER.
GIVE ME TONY BLAIR ANYDAY,,,,,
SHE WAS ONE EVIL WOMAN,,,IMHO

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Just a wander Margaret, but last week I was watching the Weakest Link, there was a woman who said she was a PA, when questioned by the Q of M she said she was a PA to an NHS executive, she was asked if she shared an office with this person, oh no I share with 9 other PAs for 9 other executives:eek::eek::eek::eek:

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There's a big difference, Thatcher dragged this country out of the shambles left by Labour in 79 The sick Man of Europe, we were, much like today nearly bankrupt, Blair was nothing but a self serving back stabbing liar, who knew exactly what he was doing and what would happen when when Brown took over and that's the only time he was right, he's even had the audacity to gloat about it in his book:mad::mad::mad:

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Yes, John...that sounds about right.
How many nurses could be funded by that kind of cash?

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Truly granny its not a choice anyone should have to make.:eek: though agree wi yer analogy.;)