Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 846714)

I was responding to your comment about letters I sent to the press when I was Peter's agent, something I wasn't for a start, was his secretary/ Press Officer, incidentally I wasn't even on the Internet in those days, I have had no involvement with Peter, politically since 2001, when I quit politics completely through ill health, if politics weren't part of the staple diet on here I wouldn't bother at all, for in my case life really is too short

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 846737)

If Peter Britcliffe accepted the invitation to discuss by means of Accy Web , would he be given a fair hearing ?

Would members listen to what he actually says before jumping down his throat ? :hehetable

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 846779)

3) Maybe I just won't respond to someone who enjoys:

1) patronising people
2) negative politics
3) Using 1&2 towards someone because of their party, rather than thoughts, on the subject.

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 846790)

My comments never mentioned letters to the press, they were letters direct to me. Please read carefully.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 846825)

You mentioned the General election went PB was candidate that was 1997 and 2001, neither PB or myself were on the Internet in either of those elections, and I certainly never received any letters from you nor did PB as I handled all the mail

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 846929)

but you don't even know my full name or address .

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 846817)

Andrew, you have never once replied to anyone without giving a sit-on-the-fence answer or just completely dodging the question by bringing something else up. It has nothing to do with Conservatives vs Labour and it doesn't surprise me one bit that you get such a rough time on this forum.

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 847076)

Sounds like he would make a good poltician .:D

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 847095)

in his own eyes yes, in mine wouldn't let him wash up.:D

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 847205)

Be careful cashy he might just come back and bite your bum:D

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 847208)

Well were hes working now, wouldn't be nowt outa ordinary.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 847029)

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 847232)

So how can you deny receiving any correspondence from me then?

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 847309)

I haven't, considering I have been out of politics for close on ten years, I ain't a clue who you've written to, certainly can't remember anything from pre 2001. The post I replied to you said I didn't now where you lived or who you were:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:;)

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 846825)

You mentioned the General election went PB was candidate that was 1997 and 2001, neither PB or myself were on the Internet in either of those elections, and I certainly never received any letters from you nor did PB as I handled all the mail

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 847312)

So you have denied receiving correspondence from me.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 847314)

As I said I can't remember, but giving the amount of correspondence which came across my desk its hardly surprising especially back then when I hadn't a clue who you were, and we did get enormous amount of dross, much like the stuff you post on here

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 847321)

So you have denied receiving correspondence from me.

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 847321)

At least I don't contradict myself like you have just done.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 847328)

Give over playing semantics, I actually don't give a toss, if what you write on here is anything to go by if I did read anything from you I would no doubt have deposited it in the correct file, namely the dust bin

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 847352)

Typical Tories not answering any questions on their policies. Nothing changed in last 10 years in Hyndburn there. Maybe they can't understand that they are, ultimately, answerable to the electorate.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 847401)

I don't answer questions on policy because I'm no longer involved, but maybe the tories over the last ten years have taken a leaf out of the previous 13 years of Labour administration, when all decisions were taken behind closed doors by the "inner sanctum" then just rubber stamped at full council

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 847727)

I don't think it would bother you, just stating a fact.
Nearly everytime I post on here someone has an insult instead of any constructive comments, so I'm playing their games. Quickly realising what sort of site this is. Old pals netwrok springs to mind.

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 847734)

So accysimon used to be around in Hyndburn about 10 years ago. Member of the Labour Group, judging by the antagonism between him and jaysay. Went to live in Cumbria, but is now back in the area.

Hmmmm.

Do I detect the return of a politically active husband and wife team to the borough?

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 847723)

Not at all. Everyone been hostile to me lately, so repaying the favour.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 847741)

Because your frit

Originally Posted by Less (Post 847474)

It's strange isn't it, the idiots of ten years ago have progressed onto the interweb

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 847742)

I love this thread.

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 847759)

Quoting Lady Thatcher to Denis Healey , Jaysay .

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 847853)

I think it was actually to some one else JCB;)

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 847887)

I'm almost certain it was to Denis Healey in the House of Commons .

A General Election had been called and Denis Healey heckled , "Cut and run".

Margaret Thatcher retorted , "You're frit . You're frit".

It was noted at the time that it was so unusual for her to use her Lincolnshire slang .

I might be wrong . It wouldn't be the first time .

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 847891)

also cashy says it to JCB, yer frit cos yer invisible, but cashy can see ya.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 847896)

Can we get back to the actual thread & stop the personal sniping, threats and un neccessary reporting, surely we have grown ups here :rolleyes: its just making the mods job more difficult than neccessary!

If ya have to get personal do it off the forum - thanks:)

Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 847896)

Can we get back to the actual thread & stop the personal sniping, threats and un neccessary reporting, surely we have grown ups here :rolleyes: its just making the mods job more difficult than neccessary!

If ya have to get personal do it off the forum - thanks:)

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 847891)

also cashy says it to JCB, yer frit cos yer invisible, but cashy can see ya.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 847980)

:confused::confused::confused:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 847985)

It would appear you have been coming on site in 'invisible mode', but those members that have contributed to the upkeep of the site can still see those too frightened to have their presence known.
:D

Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 847896)

Can we get back to the actual thread & stop the personal sniping, threats and un neccessary reporting, surely we have grown ups here :rolleyes: its just making the mods job more difficult than neccessary!

If ya have to get personal do it off the forum - thanks:)

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 848045)

Shame it was a potentially libellous post that had to be reported. The mod's should not have allowed it to be published.

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 848045)

I agree. Shame it was a potentially libellous post that had to be reported. The mod's should not have allowed it to be published. It certainly was not an un-neccessary 'report'.

Originally Posted by Less (Post 848055)

Short memory about 'potentially libellous posting',

Read what this fellow says about one of our Councillors, but he has no real proof or he wouldn't have tried to get the accyweb members to do his dirty work of naming the Councillor.
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ses-54647.html

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 848045)

I agree. Shame it was a potentially libellous post that had to be reported. The mod's should not have allowed it to be published. It certainly was not an un-neccessary 'report'.

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 848084)

When you post on here it appears on site instantly. Moderation is done rectrospectively, we dont have to approve your posts before they are allowed on site.

Originally Posted by Less (Post 848087)

Does rectrospectively mean if, they are a pain in the backside you give them a good seeing to?
:eek:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 848087)

Does rectrospectively mean if, they are a pain in the backside you give them a good seeing to?
:eek:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 848088)

If that was the case thee and me would be in bother Less:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 848095)

Not me, I'm part of the elusive, (no I didn't mean exclusive), Accyweb Mafia's Clique.
http://www.gangsterbb.net/emoticons/horse.gif

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 848097)

Ya gunna make me an offa I can't refuse hey Less :uzi::D

Originally Posted by Less (Post 848055)

Short memory about 'potentially libellous posting',

Read what this fellow says about one of our Councillors, but he has no real proof or he wouldn't have tried to get the accyweb members to do his dirty work of naming the Councillor.
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ses-54647.html

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 848158)

Libel is a false, malicious statement published in mainstream media. I never said anything that was false, and I never claimed laws were broken.
He claimed £204 Carers Allowance from LCC. Hyndburn still haven't supplied the info worryingly.

Attachment 16876

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 847893)

Think that little red dot gives the game away:D

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 848201)

That little red dot , Jaysay .:confused::confused::confused:
What is the meaning of the invisible thing ?

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 848220)

But those of us in the know, can see it glaringly beaming out & signifying your surreptitious moochings ! :D;)

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 848239)

So yer one of this "Accyweb Mafia Clique" then Dave?:D

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 848249)

This taking of the oath.........? Does it necessitate the rolling up of a trouser leg and the baring of the left breast? Be careful, you could get into a whole heap of trouble with that:D

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 848243)

Just a mini mobster Cashy ! :D I've aways to go before I catch up with the Big Boys ! Still lots to learn & Ineed to undertake the oath at the Railw ... research Centre:cool:

Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 848254)

You got one invite to the ball,you don't gets two.:uzi:

Oh go on then I'll give you a break:D:cheers:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 848203)

in yer personal settings, yer on invisible mode.:)

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 848255)

Don Benilioni, my thanks, next year I'll pay my respects to all you made Men. :D And the Wellies very fetching but I'm allergic to Concrete. ;)

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 848158)

Libel is a false, malicious statement published in mainstream media. I never said anything that was false, and I never claimed laws were broken.
He claimed £204 Carers Allowance from LCC. Hyndburn still haven't supplied the info worryingly.

Attachment 16876

Originally Posted by Less (Post 848341)

What exactly do you mean by, 'Mainstream Media'?
Also what is the point of putting a link to some expenses if you don't have the balls to name and shame the rogue in question?
Would you like me to do it for you?
The name of the naughty councillor is...
Daddy, (not my Daddy of course, but the Daddy of some innocent girl that you are choosing to bring into the limelight).

What is the use of the expenses list if you haven't. done or said anything wrong if you daren't name the person you accuse, still underhand & cowardly tactics you must surely admit?

Originally Posted by Less (Post 848341)

What exactly do you mean by, 'Mainstream Media'?
Also what is the point of putting a link to some expenses if you don't have the balls to name and shame the rogue in question?
Would you like me to do it for you?
The name of the naughty councillor is...
Daddy, (not my Daddy of course, but the Daddy of some innocent girl that you are choosing to bring into the limelight).

What is the use of the expenses list if you haven't. done or said anything wrong if you daren't name the person you accuse, still underhand & cowardly tactics you must surely admit?

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 848347)

Less, anyone who looks at the attachement does not need the name to be spelled out for them.......you can put 2 and 2 together when you read down the list to the name of the person who claimed the said amount of money as a carers allowance.

But am I wrong in thinking this is perpetuating a situation which the mods chose to address? If I am wrong please, forgive me.
It gives nothing to the thread and continues the rancour.........making it much less likely that PB would come on here and get a fair hearing.

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 848355)

You ask for the evidence, I show you the evidence, and you are still not happy. Truth hurts?

Originally Posted by Less (Post 848358)

I also ask for you to name who you accuse or shut up.
You didn't give us your interpretation on mainstream media.
Also the end tag to the above quote, 'truth hurts', whatever could you mean by that?

Originally Posted by Less (Post 848358)

I also ask for you to name who you accuse or shut up.
You didn't give us your interpretation on mainstream media.
Also the end tag to the above quote, 'truth hurts', whatever could you mean by that?

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 848359)

Read post 165..it says who I was talking about. I have not accused anyone of anything wrong, just questioned the ethics. Clearly, Less, you don't read my posts properly, or you would still not be asking me to name the person.

This could also be interpreted as an Open Invite to Mr Britcliffe to explain or deny claiming these expenses. That is a relevance to the thread title.

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 848354)

mainstream media means on the internet, in a magazine, etc. for those who are clueless.

The use of the list is to show people like you that I wasn't saying anything wrong, and that our esteemed council leader, Mr Britcliife, claimed the expenses I indicated he had. I don't see how this is underhand, just supporting my claims, something a certain other poster couldn't do when they accused me of something on here that was libellous.

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 848473)

If I could be bothered reading all this drivel again I would have to delete most of it for being off thread and cross posting but I have my family to feed so will leave it for now.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 848396)

Do pray tell what was the point of the thread in the first place, Its quite obvious that it had exactly the opposite direction than what you intended.

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 848476)

Amazing how some things and attitudes changed once I had provided the supporting evidence. Shame it took so long to obtain the info from LCC, and even longer from Hyndburn as it still hasn't arrived.
To repeat, though, for the final time, I questioned the ethics, not the legality, behind the claim.

Originally Posted by Less (Post 848478)

Yes, and to repeat, I questioned your ethics why did you post before you actually had proof? Surely had you waited you could have named & shamed, then you might have had AccyWeb members supporting you?
As it was, hopefully you have shown how rumour-mongers will be tolerated.
10/10 for persistence though, it's run so long even the obbo can't do a shock horror AccyWeb scoops another morally exposed politician.

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 848475)

Surely, as a Mod, you should be reading all posts to check suitability??

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 848476)

Amazing how some things and attitudes changed once I had provided the supporting evidence. Shame it took so long to obtain the info from LCC, and even longer from Hyndburn as it still hasn't arrived.
To repeat, though, for the final time, I questioned the ethics, not the legality, behind the claim.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 848503)

To be quite honest If I were you I'd get a life;)

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 848354)

The use of the list is to show people like you that I wasn't saying anything wrong, and that our esteemed council leader, Mr Britcliife, claimed the expenses I indicated he had.

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 848475)

Surely, as a Mod, you should be reading all posts to check suitability??

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 848524)

I've got one thanks...hounding Tories and there inept policies. :p
(even though most of them wont respond to any questions)

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 848625)

I do which is why I reminded you this thread has gone off topic

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 848814)

So why and how did the potentially libellous post get through then? Both the publisher (Accy Web) and the writer would have been subject to litigation if I had not asked for it to be removed.

Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 848814)

So why and how did the potentially libellous post get through then? Both the publisher (Accy Web) and the writer would have been subject to litigation if I had not asked for it to be removed.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 848821)

As recently stated elsewhere, moderation on here is done retrospectively.

The mods don't sit here 24/7, checking every single post straight away, as I believe quite a few of them have lives to live away from this forum.

They trust members to act all grown up, and report posts that have broken forum rules.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 848823)

seems the records stuck, it don't seem to sunk in, garinda has explained nicely to ya, if it dont sink in this time yer thick.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 845093)

It has come to my attention today that Cllrs Britcliffe and Haworth are rather upset at my posts on Accrington Web, with particular reference to those within the past 24 hours. I would therefore invite Cllr Britcliffe to come and join in the debates and balance out the arguments. I suspect it would make things much more interesting for readers of this forum and be a good opportunity to converse in a modern, pro-active way with the electorate.

Either you or one of your associates are reading Accrington Web postings on a regular basis so why not take part in the game rather than watch from the sidelines?

I for one would welcome the different viewpoint and the opportunity to debate regularly with the man who makes the policies for Hyndburn.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 951589)

Shouldn't we be extending the same invitation to the new leader of the council, Miles Parkinson?

Come on Miles, it's good to talk.

;)

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 845093)

I would therefore invite Cllr Britcliffe to come and join in the debates and balance out the arguments. I suspect it would make things much more interesting for readers of this forum and be a good opportunity to converse in a modern, pro-active way with the electorate.

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 951616)

I agree. Same applies to you, Ken.

Maybe you'll answer my Kashmir question now, seeing as how you are Chair of O&S.

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 951616)

I agree. Same applies to you, Ken.

Maybe you'll answer my Kashmir question now, seeing as how you are Chair of O&S.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 951623)

They do say what's good for the goose, is good for the gander.

It would be hypocritical not to demand answers to questions, just because the control of the council has happened to have changed.

Openess, and transparency make for a happy, democratic borough.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 951629)

Was it Claire P,who said a certain person hadn't got the balls to post,despite reading accyweb? if so i think thats great,cos we got a councillor wi principle, so i feel sure she will come n answer the "Kashmiri" question as soon as she sees this.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 951631)

Don't hold your breath cashy, although you may get a PM;)

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 951632)

Oh yee of little faith, Principals are Principals.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 951901)

Don't you mean Principles are Principles, cashy? Which I must admit looks even more like pimples