An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

It has come to my attention today that Cllrs Britcliffe and Haworth are rather upset at my posts on Accrington Web, with particular reference to those within the past 24 hours. I would therefore invite Cllr Britcliffe to come and join in the debates and balance out the arguments. I suspect it would make things much more interesting for readers of this forum and be a good opportunity to converse in a modern, pro-active way with the electorate.

Either you or one of your associates are reading Accrington Web postings on a regular basis so why not take part in the game rather than watch from the sidelines?

I for one would welcome the different viewpoint and the opportunity to debate regularly with the man who makes the policies for Hyndburn.

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Because that is how a weasel works Ken.
Maybe he is annoyed with you because he can't stand the truth to be told about his underhand way of working.

If my memory serves me correctly he did once post on here but I think it was in the 'third person'......and his user name was oh so pretentious.

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

Ken, are you trying to make my job hard? :rolleyes::D

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I would have thought you of all people would welcome Peter back to the forums with open arms!!!

The phonecall I got this morning implied that mighty wroth is the Leader of the Council regarding my Accyweb posts.

Always one to face my detractors I merely thought that inviting him to take a more active role, moving into the 21st century as it were, might soothe his troubled brow.

Possibly not, it seems....

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

Heaven forbid you are allowed freedom of speech in this country Ken... ;)

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I would rephrase that to in this borough.

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Ken I think its good that you have invited him to join us but dont think you will get a reply!!! ;)

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you got more chance of "Bin Laden" compensating america, than that man having the balls to respond on here.:rolleyes:

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We know that you are not allowed it in this Borough while Mr Britcliffe in charge of the council... ;)

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Your almost allowed freedom of speech on AccyWeb :D

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Almost.... ;)

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apparently when he isnt grumpy!! :D ;)

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Accy Web is a bastion of free speech. Certainly compared to Hyndburn Borough Council.

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That's a cracker, from someone that prefers rumour as his tool compared to facts.

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See all the Labour lackeys are out in force on this one, pity you hadn't the same enthusiasm when Blair and Brown were cocking things up big time on your behalf

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Oh, jaysay, why did you put your usual defence on?
Can you not put a different tune on your record player?
The one I use is far more relevant and mines a good old fashioned wind up!

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At least I have a tool. :eek:

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No you are one:p

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Lets have competition to see how many words we can apply to our so called council leader.
(1) Megolomaniac.
(2)

Retlaw.

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Ya know me Less I'm not a subtle as you, I call a spade a shovel:D

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2 Sir:mosher::hehetable:D

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I mustn't.

Already this week I've had more column inches in the Lancashire Telegraph than he has.

If I push it any further I'll be wearing a flak jacket up at Scaitcliffe House tomorrow.

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

And the Labour Lackeys haven't even the guts to sign their red, totally in keeping:tongueout

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And you proudly wear it in the middle of your forehead.

See jaysay, idiots set themselves up for insults.

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

Open invatation?

P-A-R-T-Y-!

I'll bring a bottle.

What time's it kick off?

:D

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The major kick off will probably be tomorrow morning at the Cabinet meeting. Apparently, I'm likely to get a roasting for my despicable comments. I am just a new boy after all, as was pointed out in the House in July by the Leader of the Council.

You wouldn't think that a councillor of just four months would be able to ruffle a council leader with such a wealth of experience, would you?

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

Yes, actually I would, given honesty, sincerity and the will to do good for his electorate, go for it, please, I like many others will wait on the sidelines hoping at last the town has a Messiah.

It would be nice if we have.
:)

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

Blair and Brown were on Hyndburn Borough Council:eek:

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Does he need an invitation?

After all he's already gone to the trouble of joining this forum.

Here's his profile.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/m...ffice-hbc.html

He's even made two posts.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post701192

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post691676

Though sadly his last post was in April 2009, he's recently left this message on his profile, just a few months ago...

Part 1

All current County Councillors for Hyndburn were invited to the Armed Services Day parade, including Graham Jones. All except one at the time (County Councillor Younis) were also members of Hyndburn District Council and their invitations were addressed to them in that capacity. County Cllr Younis was invited in his County Council capacity.

We received replies from all the County Councillors except for Graham Jones. However, we understand that Graham was aware of the parade as, a few days before, we were told by Councillor Pam Barton, the Labour Group Chief Whip, that he would not be attending.

Part 2

The Council’s civic protocol does accord Hyndburn’s MP a place in the order of precedence at civic events. We had been told that Graham Jones would not be attending the parade and the staff marshalling the event were not expecting him to be there. We are very sorry that Graham wasn’t accorded the appropriate priority, but we are very pleased that he was able to attend this important act of remembrance.

The Council did not provide a wreath for the MP, but it has never been our practice to do so. For example, we do not provide a wreath for the MP at events such as Remembrance Sunday. We only provide wreathes for Council representatives, such as the Mayor, the Leader and the Leader of the Opposition. It would be up to the MP's own office to provide the wreath for these occasions.

So you see, he really doesn't need an invite, because he's already here.

He walks amongst us.

:angel:

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The red one is mine........good game this Retlaw

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'TheLeadersOffice HBC has not made any friends yet'
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/m...ffice-hbc.html

:(

Perhaps now he's playing a more active part of the forum, the friend invites wiill come rolling his way.

:)

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Nice Less? Nice??? that is being damned with faint praise.........it would be Gloody Bood.
Ken, show the little schizzle what you think of him.......kick him in the chin(or was it shin? Nah, he's only a little feller).

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(3) Photogenic.

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I think I would prefer a competition that said:-

Lets have competition to see how many words we can apply to our NEW council leader.

But what do I know? I've probably been branded a Conservative just 'cos I won't suffer Labour fools anymore gladly than any others, (I'd like to support Labour, been shish cabbabed by the other lot too many times, but, and by Godfrey, it's a big but, BUT, not if they employ methods like Simple Simon's').

:D

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

Yes...I guess to a point...especially if you want to keep the children away from the fire...or scare the cats off the petty(lavvy) wall.

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;)

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That just proves my point G :)

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Nothing constructive to say, so you just insult people. How clever.

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Much more clever than someone like you that forgets how you started the joke, I await your last post with Joyous. anticipation,
In case you don't understand, I hope that was your last post, you add nothing to the site, the threads, or the posts, I don't know you but it's a fair bet you add less than that to life itself.

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

How wrong you are...

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Oh my god, just how stupid are you?

Well...

I was going to take time pointing it out but, you wouldn't comprehend and you certainly aren't worth telling.

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

Ken you have had quite a long time before you get a roasting. I got mine, for something I hadn't done, at the first Cabinet meeting I attended as a councillor - which was only 6 days after being elected. I think he did learn that he could not make me burst into tears (which I am sure he wanted to do) and that I am not easily intimidated, especially by people whose only claim to being my superior is in the size of their councillor allowances

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So i can safely assume the guy (P.B.) has never read "How To Win Friends And Influence People"?:D

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Now, now John, your good self and I have always thrashed out a point or three during that time!

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I suppose in many ways I was trying to reassure someone who may in reality have a delicate ego that a new viewpoint would be welcome. Given the lack of response so far, I feel like a bit of a bully.

To change the subject completely, the road surface along Hartley Street is appalling. Who is your county councillor?

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I believe that's in Cllr. Britcliffe's ward.

They keep it so bad, for the old folks who can't fit on the subsidised seaside special bus.

A big dipper experience for all who staycation.

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Really? Does he own any property on that street? I only ask because maybe he's trying to avoid the same 'mistake' that Graham made when Hodder Street was resurfaced in an apparently self-serving way.

For those that have the time, just a reminder that the Cabinet meeting is up at Scaitcliffe House in Accrington (just past the new Tesco being built) at 11.00pm this morning and is open to members of the public.

It would give me more pleasure than you can imagine to see the room packed with spectators, all taking a genuine interest in local politics and seeing what the councillors are really trying to do in the borough.

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

You know Ken, I would go to that meeting but I am going with my Ma for a diabetic assessment review this morning.......I will think about you while Ma is having her pulses in her feet dopplered. Sik him Ken.

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Not to worry, Margaret. The answers to questions on notice will probably run along these tried and tested lines:

1) Blame was the previous administration

2) 13 years of Labour rule have ruined the borough

3) It's all Graham Jones' fault

Works every time.

I'm sure someone will post updates later in the day and if anyone has anything to say publicly then rumour has it that posting on Accyweb between 12pm-2pm is a good way of getting your comments noticed, especially if you are a new Rishton councillor.

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

You certainly are not worth listening too either, so I won't waste any more of my valuable and busy time on you.

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Thank you, from the heart of my bottom.
:D

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:hidewall: heehee!! he will bite the bait again Less!!! :D:eek::D

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possible, but not a tenth of what I would have liked to:D

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[quote=Ken Moss;845304]Not to worry, Margaret. The answers to questions on notice will probably run along these tried and tested lines:

1) Blame was the previous administration

2) 13 years of Labour rule have ruined the borough

3) It's all Graham Jones' fault

Works every time.

Well its about right ain't it Ken:D

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

Only if he is too stupid to read your post before answering.
:)

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Bet you've been an angler in your time Less, tight lines:D

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I'm following a higher example, I'm only a fisher of men.
:)

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Seems you caught a big one Less, what bait you using:D

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Some kind of "wind up stuff" one would presume Jay ! :D

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BS, the strange thing is, that's only supposed to baffle brains, don't ask me how it's attracting this big...
:confused:

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:Love it

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Seems you've sharpened upon your recent visit Dave:D

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If you're reading this Peter, the invitation's still open.

Marlene, feel free to chip in as well and show me up for the disgrace I am. You barely singed my boots this morning in front of all those market traders.

In my haste this morning I never got to say thank you for the full 30 minutes of debate between July and December on some of the borough's most pressing issues.

I think that demonstrated a level of democracy that few other councils will manage to equal.

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No not really Jay, Its always been there but written down it doesn't have the same effect as a smart retort. Still I suppose actually being in the area & meeting folk you get a better feel for what's acceptable & what you can get away with without folk taking umbrage. :)

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I managed to catch the 7.30am train home and called in to catch the market traders speak out about the changes.

I felt compelled to silence as unfortunate comments crept into the debate. It was reassuring to see Labour councillors rise above it all too.

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

Oh they are not against it graham, i have nothing to base that on......ANDREW has spoken.:rolleyes:

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It was great that you could make it and the market traders were left in no doubt yesterday as to which party is championing their cause.

After being told that their MP won't form a good working relationship with the council due to his bad attitude, it must have smacked of political bitchiness to the traders as you talked to them all afterwards whilst The Leader of the Council retreated to his private office before the meeting was even adjourned.

The invitation is still open, Peter.

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Cllr Britcliffe usually has so much good news to tell us in the papers, the council chamber and at opening ceremonies yet is strangely reticent to speak so positively about his projects online.

I enjoyed his Oswaldtwistle Area Council meeting so much that I think I'm going to have to turn up with my entourage at every one while he is in power. Following the cancellation of the full council it seems that it will be the only way that I will be able to hear his good news for myself.

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

I will try and stay for a chat next time, don't eat all the biscuits I want some :)

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I didn't manage to get any myself!

Mind you, it was very nice of Cllr Britcliffe to come and stand in the pouring rain to wave the Rishton team and Cllr Pritchard off, he didn't look particularly pleased (or dry).

You get much better biccies in Ossy, that's where the Cabinet Action Fund must be going.

It is FULLY accountable, isn't it Peter? No democratic council that is working with their own government to ruthlessly cut back on wasteful spending would allow £100k of Hyndburn money to go unaudited, would they?

Peter?

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Nice to see your back after a weekend off Ken:D

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Think a chap called Oswald Mosley and his 'entourage' tried using tactics like this a few years back , don't remember it getting them very far ;) :D

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I suspect Peter hid the chocolate hobnobs when he saw the Labour party arrive so you did not learn the truth about Ossy Area Council biscuits :rolleyes::D

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Ken, I think this is an exercise in Canutism :D........ so don't hold your breath waiting for a response!

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In all seriousness, it actually bore fruit in a much more positive way than you're thinking.

Beyond some quizzicals looks from the Leader, other Area Councils do things quite differently from your own and it was a good way of approaching things from another angle. A presentation by the police Inspector was very useful and down to earth, plus there were also individual updates from each councillor which has never happened in Rishton and I am keen to implement here.

I don't think anyone is going to topple the house of cards simply by turning up to an Area Council meeting!

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It's a conspiracy!

When the Mayor turned up I suppose the Jammie Dodgers disappeared too?

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I'm at the back of a queue waiting for the Leader of the Council to respond to him.

Some of the market traders aren't best pleased at the lack of reply to their correspondence either.

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I thought the Area Council co-ordinators would arrange such things as they will go to different meeting wont they?

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Yes and no.

The Rishton one is broadly similar to the Oswaldtwistle one but there were certain slight variances which I was quite keen on and they will be included in future at our meetings. The Area Managers vary from ward to ward and so although the programme has a general format, no two meetings are likely to be the same.

It was also useful to see what items are included in other wards, the police one on crime prevention being a prime example of something that would go down well here. Cllr Grayson and myself therefore requested that the same item be scheduled for November in Rishton and we will have five minutes apiece going through the projects that each of us have had the biggest hand in.

There seems to be some resistance to the idea but it struck me as a good way of actually showing people what councillors do for the community.

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Watch, Listen and learn;)

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The 'listen' bit is not an optional extra where Cllr Britcliffe is concerned, it's his show.

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Well he is well versed, he has been doing it a tad longer than you;)

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He may have been doing it longer than Ken, but he still hasn't learnt how to talk to or listen to, the residents of the borough.

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Just a tad.

It would be nice to occasionally be given the chance to discuss and debate things from this side of the fence but it's a bit on the awkward side with no council meeting between July and December.

Since all I can do is pick holes in policies at the moment, I'm just waiting to become an attempted victim of the 'Taking Quotes Out Of Context' game, it's happened before on this very forum.

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

Even I wouldn't listen to you,

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

Really Ken, can't believe that !!!!!!!!!

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Oh come on Ken who on here would take quotes out of context:rolleyes:

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That's not what you said when you acted as Mr Britcliffe's agent years ago when he stood for MP, John. You were very responsive to my letters. You never did talk sense then though either, so glad to see nothing has changed.

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

Not what I heard from my Labour Party Mole!!!!!!! when members were told not to reply to my letters;)

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All my letters were sent by email asking about Peter's campaign and views. I respond to all letters and will not have anyone dictate to me who I can and cannot correspond to. Actually, it was you and Peter who did not reply to me when challenged on policy, so please get your facts right !!

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

Has he shown up yet? Britcliffe that is.

This thread is getting to be like "En Attendant Godot":eek:, and if he shows up, he will probably come on like Pozzo.;)

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I was responding to your comment about letters I sent to the press when I was Peter's agent, something I wasn't for a start, was his secretary/ Press Officer, incidentally I wasn't even on the Internet in those days, I have had no involvement with Peter, politically since 2001, when I quit politics completely through ill health, if politics weren't part of the staple diet on here I wouldn't bother at all, for in my case life really is too short

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I'm afraid not, Eric. It seems that my upfront approach has not gone down well at Castle Britcliffe.

Mind you, a letter from the market traders is more likely to cause a stink today, particularly since there are signatures on there that Cllrs Britcliffe and Haworth might not wish to have seen. All but two are now against it but I'm still intrigued as to which market traders wrote in with their support for 6 day trading since Cllr Haworth's envelope of letters was quite thick.

Perhaps they changed their minds.

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

interesting, doubt if andrew will either believe or comment on that.:rolleyes:

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

That depends on two things:

1) Whether he's been prepped on how to respond by the local party.

2) If there's a chapter on it in one of those Political Studies textbooks.

I shouldn't take the mickey really, I was a student myself for many years, but there does come a point where you have to realise that you can't learn about real life in Lancashire from a textbook written in Oxford.

Re: An Open Invitation to Cllr Britcliffe
 

If Peter Britcliffe accepted the invitation to discuss by means of Accy Web , would he be given a fair hearing ?

Would members listen to what he actually says before jumping down his throat ? :hehetable

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Oh some certainly would, though some may like to grab his throat.:D

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I don't reckon we need to worry whether he gets a fair hearing....I don't think it will ever happen.

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3) Maybe I just won't respond to someone who enjoys:

1) patronising people
2) negative politics
3) Using 1&2 towards someone because of their party, rather than thoughts, on the subject.

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Or maybe you will respond, but turn up to the gig with nothing to offer except bluster:-

;)