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New member vimtocreed has put it to the forum that Peter Britcliffe must surely be doing something right:
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/849408-post35.html It has been levelled at me, quite fairly, that I have not exactly been over-complimentary of the Hyndburn Conservative policies, with particular reference to Peter Britcliffe's way of doing things. To balance things out it would be nice to hear about some of the things that the public at large think he has done well. Over to you.... |
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(There you go beanzie another free advert on accyweb, please don't bother to thank me, Oh, you weren't going to).:D |
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He's A Rovers Supporter:D
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It would be a good indicator if people state which community has been most affected in a positive way. |
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well if ya hadn't included ossy, ya could have said- answers on the back of a postage stamp.:D
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No one has actually come up with anything tangible yet beyond being a Rovers fan!
Come on, anything at all??? |
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Flower Towers ... well, I love 'em.
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Mores the pity. |
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If we'd given the same amount to the local Prospects group they would have landscaped the whole village and most of Great Harwood as well!! Not a good example of value for money, in my opinion, plus we aren't a market town and never will be. |
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The lovely calendars always make me smile, and like Katex, I do like the flower towers.
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You have obviously done a cost comparison. Are you not going to share that with us and provide us with hard facts to support your statement? Does a town have to be a Market Town to look attractive? |
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To original poster , Seems to me as an 'interested outsider' an ex Arroder (Gt Harwood) who has links to Ossy (my parents got wed at Ossy Emmanual Church) my Mom being a 'West End girl' ... at one time Ossy had one of the most deprived areas in Hyndburn (Greater Accrington) any mention that you came from the "Back o Johns area " and you were immediatly labeled as lower than dirt , not sure but maybe through Councillor Britcliffes efforts I dont think the area carries the same social stigma anymore, as someone who represents the Spring st. area of Rishton , maybe , just maybe after a few years hard work and effort you can bring the same rejuvination to the areas you represent.
Methinks as a newcomer to the area , not born and bred (think you once mentioned you were from Preston or Chorley area) you should learn a bit more of the history of the Borough ;) :D |
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If you aren't familiar with your Prospects group (most wards have one in Hyndburn) then just have a quick look online but the one in Rishton does some marvellous work and has been instrumental in making some lousy areas into places of beauty. If I had offered our group £200 and asked them to turn four small grotspots into flower beds they would have jumped at the chance and the rest of the money could have bought a new bus shelter that lower Rishton badly needs. In terms of floral areas, Rishton already looks pretty good so no, I don't believe that anywhere needs to be a Market Town to look attractive. |
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Oswaldtwistle is an impressive sight to me once you get to Alleytroyds and there is much to look at and heap praise on but we have now had a decade where almost nothing has been spent on major projects in outer wards. Even Mercer Hall baths has now had the money pulled from it and is in danger of closing by the end of the year. The problem as I see it is that there is no joined up thinking regarding projects which is why regeneration seems to be taking such a long time across the borough. Bits of ideas are have had money thrown at them but with no thought as to how they will be completed. Pendle Street in Central ward is a prime example of waste. Why on Earth did the council buy those and leave them stood empty and structurally unsound when insurance payments to the original owners would have circumvented the whole problem? As I understand it, it was a quick fix election promise which has now lumbered us with a very expensive and practically useless asset that will inevitably cost us even more in future. Project Phoenix in Springhill/Central is symptomatic of the obsession with pulling down terraced houses in favour of modern housing but if you look at what is being built they are essentially terraced houses and are even closer to the main road than before! There isn't the money around at the moment for the developers to complete the project so the area will be left with a gaping wound of open space. You mention Spring Street, something I have now drawn up a practicable solution for, but it does rather rely on the money being allocated and I don't pull the purse strings. |
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The refurbished Market Hall is fairly impressive but the management of it is a complete fudge. All it would take is a bit of common sense and all would be well but the traders and opposition councillors are tilting at windmills where that is concerned because two people have their idea of how it should be and will simply not back down in the face of overwhelming public opinion that they are wrong. |
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Last year Prospects charitable spending was £735,200 according to the Charity Commission figures here. Could they not have slipped you a couple of hundred quid for some flowers in Rishton? Maybe when the windfarm on Oswaldtwistle Moor is up and running they will be able to spare some of the £2.5 million that they are expecting to receive, although why this money is being given to Prospects to do with what they want is a mystery to me. |
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Seem to remember that a new swimming bath was proposed to be built on land between the Mercer Hall and the 'old' Library (site of the now closed oboslete Co-op), But Councillor Slynn sold out and shafted Arrod (Gt, Harwood) |
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Although I am part of the Rishton Prospects group the actual allocation of money from the main pot is nothing to do with me and I'm not even sure whether they have had any money yet. |
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The Council , under the leadership of Peter Britcliffe , allowed the tenants of Hyndburn Council houses to vote whether the stock of council houses should remain under Council ownership , or be transferred to Hyndburn Homes , thus enabling money to be spent on the upgrading of the houses . The tenants voted to transfer to Hyndburn Homes .
The Labour opposition supported this policy . |
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I think Council houses should remain Under Council control but should be managed correctly. Why can a private company manage upgrade the houses when the Council could not? I also disagree with selling Council houses to tenants at reduced prices. Its like burning Council Tax payers money. |
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Could I just ask, no not you Ken, could I just ask the members of AccyWeb, both new and old, but especially the old.
When the site started and indeed now that fortunately the members still take the bother to post on the site, do any of us want the site to be like Hyndburns Councillors , always bitching about each other or do we want it to return to a site with the need for ordinary people to bitch about our politicians on?:) |
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makes no difference at all to me personally, am quite happy some take the trouble to come on, be better still imho if all parties did. i do like to bitch about politics n would like even more if i could bitch at all of em, if i had the need.:)
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I am not convinced the money will be handled without bias to Prospects own agenda and can think of a group that would possibly be a better choice. |
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To set the record straight, I do not have any political affiliations, I consider all politicians of whatever persuasion to be tarred with the same brush and contrary to English Law they have to prove themselves innocent and free from blemish IMHO. |
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More than two years ago the residents of the terrace in question in Pendle St had a meeting in Scaitcliffe House with three members of the Council staff . The residents were told of the concern regarding the structure of this one terrace , one out of the four terraces in Pendle St . There were to be two independent surveys , one internal and one external , of the terrace , after which the Council would decide the appropriate action to take . Both surveys took place . Both put the houses on the terrace into the category which meant that the Council had no option but to decide on demolition . Some of the houses are still inhabited , but about three quarters are boarded up , the residents having sold them to the Council , and gone to live elsewhere . When all the properties are empty I presume the terrace will be demolished . I don't know the ins and outs of procedures for dealing with such circumstances . I don't know if the Council did anything wrong . It all seems above board to me , but I am eager for anyone to put me in the full picture if I am mistaken . |
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A political section would be interesting. It would give legitimacy to those posting.
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what group ... |
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What we need is for certain members to stop trying to turn every thread into a political one. |
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Not really something Peter Britcliffe has any control over, local parties can only work on local issues. |
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:p Accy Web in the 'old days', and what it is today, seem much the same to me. Somethings interest me, and others I avoid, because they don't. A lot of the silliness has stopped. Mainly because people can use other social networking sites, were it's easier to find more people of like minds. There's nothing to stop people starting non-political threads. Just as there's nothing to stop people from starting them. If all talk ot politics was banned from pubs, it would probably have had a more devastating effect than the smoking ban. Nearly everything can be seen as political. Which neatly brings me back on thread, and therefore I don't run the risk of having some of my very considered posts consigned to the ether. :D |
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We were a nuclear free borough. :rolleyes: :D |
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I suspect Hyndburn is a nuclear free borough as well
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Whatever the ins-and-outs of it, the council should not have taken those on as assets and demolition is not cheap. Even if they are demolished, what then? More open land which is an invitation to travellers or a demilitarised zone similar to the Esther Street area in Blackburn? It was a very costly move and a mistake, in my opinion. |
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Suspect. We knew, because we had banners on buildings, and signs on every lamp post, telling it as fact. ;) |
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Friends of Rhyddings Park? It's a lot of money which will ultimately be filtered into every ward in the borough in a positive way to people who genuinely want to improve their towns and villages. Since it will be spent on things that the people actually want I suspect it will go much further than giving it to the council. The things that the Rishton Prospects group have done with a pittance is a glowing credit to them and I am proud to be a small part of that. |
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We've asked our M.P. in the past about national issues, and be given answers.
I wanted to know how Greg Pope was going to vote on a free vote on stem cell research. I suspect our current M.P. would be similarly obliging. |
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our current M.P. will answer questions on any subject as i witnessed personally sat afternoon, when a friend was asking. n me mate aint one of his constituents either,
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You took a political decision. There's just no getting away from it. :D |
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I saw him in a café in town on Sunday morning. I've forgotten its name, the one with the sweets and ice cream. He seemed to be very popular in there. He's a lovely man from what I know of him.
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Why should the Council have to sort it out? Come to think of it I don't know the full story behind Pendle Street so I might be talking out of my backside again. |
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For some reason the council promised to take it on during an election campaign and all of a sudden we're left with a collossal liability that we can't do a thing with. You're coming across well as a Tory sympathiser but if Labour had done the same thing I don't think we'd be having this discussion. I wouldn't be happy if our lot had been responsible either. A good example of council acquisitions is South Shore/Blackpool Street in Oswaldtwistle which I have seen recently and am very impressed with. Again, the management could have been better but buying up empty houses and trying to bring them back into use for first-time buyers is a good idea and one that I'm pursuing. The timing just happened to be lousy in this instance but it wasn't really anyone's fault that the housing market chose that particular moment to collapse. |
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For me if someone's house become unfit to live in or unsafe and they did not have insurance to cover it or can not afford to make it safe/fit they should get nothing. The Council should take the property, correct the problems and sell it on to pay for the work. This should include business properties as well so we would not have some of the eyesores we do around the Borough like the Commercial in Church and the Paladium in Ossy. People should not get free handouts and have the value of there properties increased at my expense because they neglected it themselves. In fact the whole Phoenix project is not quite right in my opinion but if we go down this route we will end up way off thread :D |
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I don't know the procedures needed to be taken when a terrace is judged unfit for dwelling by two surveys carried out by the Council . If building insurance was the way to sort the matter , then clearly the Council was doing things the wrong way . I know a lady who lived on the terrace in question . She is in her late 60s and asked if I would go with her to the meeting at Scaitcliffe House when the residents were told what action the Council was taking , starting with the two surveys . Building insurance was never mentioned . Basically the residents were told that if the surveys resulted in the houses being considered unfit for dwelling they could sell them to the Council . My friend , when she found out that demolition was the only option , took the money being offered by the Council and bought another house . That's all I know . I don't know what goes on behind closed doors . |
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Context is a wonderful thing, especially when quotes are taken out of it. |
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Often on a forum like this if you quote the whole post we end up with pages of massive quotes and it gets a little unreadable. By just quoting that bit it makes it easy to see who and what he is referring to. |
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I am confused that you needed to make such a remark . What bearing did it have on what I was saying ? I am even more confused now by the whole Pendle Street business now that the insurance issue has been brought up . Insurance was never mentioned by the Council officials at the meeting . If it was pertinent I am wondering why it wasn't brought up . |
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I doubt whether many of the residents of Pendle St actually had buildings insurance.
The population there is mainly of asian origin and they don't buy using conventional mortgages which would require such insurance. Asian property purchases are made from their own equivalent of a person/persons who provide finance, similar to the Italian 'godfather' system. PS - that is why an asian prospective buyer can offer you a 'cash sale' |
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The houses in Pendle Street didn't fall into disrepair overnight. It was a process that took several years, so buildings insurance (renewable annually) would have long since ceased to be available.
The Council always used to deal with with such problems through its Slum Clearance programme, and got the money back from central government. Nowadays it has to meet the costs itself. It doesn't have a choice if the houses are in a bad enough state (as the surveys apparently show).It is a statutory duty. Don't blame the ruling group. Blame the system. |
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How do I get HBC to come and re plaster my dining room? When I took the paper off all the plaster came with it. Its ok I have neglected to decorate this room for years :rolleyes: |
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I best go and spank myself for taking us off thread
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S215 notices are there to make owners sit up and make sure their houses are in good repair. If we go down the route of buying up everything shoddy we'd be broke within three weeks. Bad landlords/owners are a perennial bugbear across the borough and we need blanket legislation against this. It came into force in five areas on 1st October for a five year period, why not Hyndburn-wide I don't know because we've been screaming for it in Rishton for years. |
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She kept her house in good condition . A widow , she had lived in the house since her marriage in the 1960s . It had many memories for her , and although some , not all , of the property around her was neglected she wanted to stay there . In 1994 the renovation of the other 3 terraces in the street was completed . For some reason her terrace wasn't renovated . The row of houses back to her on Fountain St weren't renovated , but the terrace facing them on Fountain St was . All so strange and confusing . |
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I want mine renovating for free as well please. We are in a conservation area but I don't see HBC or LCC conserving anything :(
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I know but there is still no conservation done here
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Nice streets and Ossy. Come on Jay which one do you mean????
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Subsequent surveys,though i made the point prior, surveys were not required it was obvious, that internal works serve no purpose and in some cases enforcement can be used for external works including appearance. This should have been the option. It was an option I did point out at the time. We should not be doing up private landlords properties for them to simply make more money from. Quote:
Like Blackpool Street,if the Council has to step in then in short it wants all of it's investment back in the form of equity. Most properties are landlord owned on this block. Most done by cash sale with no insurance or survey. The Council should pay the actual value. The cost is now £2.3m to be paid by every Council Tax payer in Hyndburn. Or £70 per household. I think there are 21 houses?? Or thereabouts. |
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