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jaysay 15-10-2010 10:23

A bit of sense at last
 
BBC News - Cameron backs proposed health and safety law reforms

At last a bit of sense over the health and safety nonsense, and a curb on ambulance chasers is long over due, we have got to a situation where there is no genuine no fault accidents anymore, a lot of these so called "accidents" could be avoided if people themselves were more careful and were no always looking for some one to blame, when most of the time its their own stupid fault

cmonstanley 16-10-2010 07:58

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same old headlining grabbing what a load of rubbish his report only covers teachers and office workers and health and safety consultants who do assesments already have to be qualified and putting their names on a database dont add up:confused:nthats not very safe is it and theres no way they can get round any compensation laws unless people are given a disclaimer:confused:

SPUGGIE J 16-10-2010 08:43

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Sadly the BLAME GAME has become big business lately and is out of control. All it does is push up premiums and make those in the blaming game a lot of money. If an accident is genuine then why the hell would people want to try and get money out of it and drag it through the courts. Soon accidentally bumping into someone in the street or clipping there ankle in a supermarket with a trolley will be compo claims. Then there is the chance they might want the poor ****** who did the bumping or clipping charged with assault. Common sense is no longer used sadly and we will be worse of for it. :(

jaysay 16-10-2010 08:49

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 852369)
Sadly the BLAME GAME has become big business lately and is out of control. All it does is push up premiums and make those in the blaming game a lot of money. If an accident is genuine then why the hell would people want to try and get money out of it and drag it through the courts. Soon accidentally bumping into someone in the street or clipping there ankle in a supermarket with a trolley will be compo claims. Then there is the chance they might want the poor ****** who did the bumping or clipping charged with assault. Common sense is no longer used sadly and we will be worse of for it. :(

Exactly my take on it to Spugs, you only have to look at the TV ads to see that, well some of us do that is

SPUGGIE J 16-10-2010 09:00

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 852375)
Exactly my take on it to Spugs, you only have to look at the TV ads to see that, well some of us do that is

Others though see it as a way to easy money and there is a good chance the will go out to try and "have an accident" to get compensation. The line between genuine accidents and those of the silly chace em ones is now blurred. Who cant be sued now for money over anything?

If I buy a new set of sharp knives for the kitchen and cut myself does that mean I could sue the maker of the knife that assaulted me and drew blood?

cmonstanley 16-10-2010 09:36

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but its only headline making in the tory press if you read it its only for office workers and teahers nothing will change its all words and headline grabbing itws not went through parliament yet so dont hold your breath.

Less 16-10-2010 09:43

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 852391)
itws not went through parliament yet so dont hold your breath.

It won't go through Parliament until it has been assessed for risks, as for holding our breath? What are you some sort of health & safety worker, of course we won't hold our breath, common sense says that is dangerous, we don't need telling.
;)

jaysay 16-10-2010 09:44

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 852395)
It won't go through Parliament until it has been assessed for risks, as for holding our breath? What are you some sort of health & safety worker, of course we won't hold our breath, common sense says that is dangerous, we don't need telling.
;)

Good point Less, I can't hold my breath even if I wanted to;)

Benipete 16-10-2010 10:52

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I blame Stan Ogden.:D:D

DaveinGermany 16-10-2010 13:15

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It is a sad but true fact, that due to rules & regulations set in place mainly by the last Government, the deadwood & s'not fair crowd seem to see everything as someone else's fault & take no responsibility for their own actions. Someone's to blame, it's not my fault ! I know my rights ! & I want compensation from someone ! Now rules the roost, it really annoys me that this is the way the UK has turned out, a culture of claims, counter claims & compensation ...... depressing, it really is.

I understand there are some really genuine cases & that's fine we all should be cared for if some tool has been incompetent, but some pig who burns their face shovelling a Maccy D's down their gullet ? Your own fault ! Of course it was going to be hot you Muppet !

I don't half despair ! So this new Government say they're going to cut back on all this H&S crap, well great & the sooner the better. People say they're fed up with being treated like kids & being told what to do well here's a start at least, grow up & take responsibility for your own actions, accidents will happen but have the decency to be fair about them not every incident requires a claim ! :(

Gordon Booth 16-10-2010 13:41

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 852391)
if you read it its only for office workers and teahers n

It doesn't say that at all! It says 'for non-hazardous occupations SUCH AS office workers and teachers'. So if you erect scaffolding at the top of a 100 storey building Health and Safety will apply, if you're a librarian presumably it won't, should you drop a book on your foot! THAT is an accident,they happen.

jaysay 16-10-2010 14:12

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 852446)
It doesn't say that at all! It says 'for non-hazardous occupations SUCH AS office workers and teachers'. So if you erect scaffolding at the top of a 100 storey building Health and Safety will apply, if you're a librarian presumably it won't, should you drop a book on your foot! THAT is an accident,they happen.

You have to make exceptions for the likes of CS and Mancie they look at the world through rose colours specs and can't see anything constructive put forward by anybody but Labour, the problems is Labour never got anything right;)

Gordon Booth 16-10-2010 15:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 852464)
they look at the world through rose colours specs

I don't think so,Jaysay, I think their specs may be rather darker than that.

Tealeaf 16-10-2010 15:18

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 852510)
I don't think so,Jaysay, I think their specs may be rather darker than that.

Aye - they see the world through specs like those of a Chilean Miner.

jaysay 16-10-2010 15:45

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 852510)
I don't think so,Jaysay, I think their specs may be rather darker than that.

Not if they're already blind Gordon;)

Less 16-10-2010 18:24

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 852550)
Not if they're already blind Gordon;)

Like you are? You mean? Yes I agree Mancie and his mate are never going to change, but are you? Whenever and argument/discussion comes up the usual you put forward is Labour & their years, nothing practical, why? because there is nothing practical but you and obsessives like you & him can't find a neutral ground that is good for the rest of us, so we have to put up with the same old sheit.
(no smiley face, you don't deserve it).

jaysay 17-10-2010 09:20

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 852585)
Like you are? You mean? Yes I agree Mancie and his mate are never going to change, but are you? Whenever and argument/discussion comes up the usual you put forward is Labour & their years, nothing practical, why? because there is nothing practical but you and obsessives like you & him can't find a neutral ground that is good for the rest of us, so we have to put up with the same old sheit.
(no smiley face, you don't deserve it).

Well you've got to admit Less that since Accy Web went on line there as only been Labour years, apart from May onwards that is. I am the first to admit that the Tories towards the end of their last time in office deserved to be beaten, but even then they left Labour with a strong economy to inherit, in fact the strongest economic position ever inherited by an incoming government in history, and they still cocked it up big style, as per usual

SPUGGIE J 17-10-2010 09:47

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You forgot the global hijacking by banks bit though. Mind you Gordy Brown swept away some of the controls when head money man did he not?

jaysay 17-10-2010 09:52

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 852672)
You forgot the global hijacking by banks bit though. Mind you Gordy Brown swept away some of the controls when head money man did he not?

Not forgetting selling all our gold and for what peanuts, but even then we were the first in and last out of recession and now have £1 trillions worth of debt:mad:

SPUGGIE J 17-10-2010 10:09

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 852674)
Not forgetting selling all our gold and for what peanuts, but even then we were the first in and last out of recession and now have £1 trillions worth of debt:mad:

A debt that will never really reduce as the interest payments alone are crippling. The banks got away with fiscal murder and some are now partying to celebrate. Ok I can see why they rescued the banks but would it not have been better to treat the banks the same as any other business? A bank would have let a business go to the wall if it had been as reckless as they were. We need to put a proverbial noose round their knecks that one stupid arrogent move would have them hanging themselves.

cmonstanley 17-10-2010 12:06

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BBC News - Spending Review: Benefit fraud measures outlined this is a good idea but theres so many laws, most would get it back on appeal so its just another gimmick and whos going to implement them when they are getting rid of so many staff:confused: are they going to try and do it on the cheap so most cases will be dropped due to lack of evidence because of the human rights law.

Ken Moss 17-10-2010 12:36

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 852682)
A debt that will never really reduce as the interest payments alone are crippling. The banks got away with fiscal murder and some are now partying to celebrate. Ok I can see why they rescued the banks but would it not have been better to treat the banks the same as any other business? A bank would have let a business go to the wall if it had been as reckless as they were. We need to put a proverbial noose round their knecks that one stupid arrogent move would have them hanging themselves.

I quite agree. A bit of thinning out would have been rather nice.

What we could do with is a nationalised bank that people could trust.

How about, oh I don't know, The Bank of England?

jaysay 17-10-2010 17:54

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 852699)
I quite agree. A bit of thinning out would have been rather nice.

What we could do with is a nationalised bank that people could trust.

How about, oh I don't know, The Bank of England?

Well the good old Bank of England used to regulate the Banks until somebody had a brilliant idea to regulate them, wonder who that was:rolleyes:

Less 17-10-2010 19:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 852759)
Well the good old Bank of England used to regulate the Banks until somebody had a brilliant idea to regulate them, wonder who that was:rolleyes:

Are you related to the Mayor of London?

Read that again, work out where you went wrong and then re-post.
:D

Vicbfc 17-10-2010 22:26

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 852236)
BBC News - Cameron backs proposed health and safety law reforms

At last a bit of sense over the health and safety nonsense, and a curb on ambulance chasers is long over due, we have got to a situation where there is no genuine no fault accidents anymore, a lot of these so called "accidents" could be avoided if people themselves were more careful and were no always looking for some one to blame, when most of the time its their own stupid fault

I agree :D

jaysay 18-10-2010 08:48

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 852786)
Are you related to the Mayor of London?

Read that again, work out where you went wrong and then re-post.
:D

Glad the smiles are back:D deregulated was the term:rolleyes: two typos one after another;)


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