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cashman 25-10-2010 22:08

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 855284)
I think it's only the start of Clegg's political career.. when it suits he could easily leave the dems and be a major player in the tory party...the lib-dems will suffer at elections from their disgrace.. but Nick Clegg will not.

that discussion was concured wi in our house yesterday mancie.;) every chance imho.

Wynonie Harris 25-10-2010 22:19

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Tony Blair could be a Tory...David Cameron could be New Labour...all these modern political leaders come out of the same mould anyway...you could never have said that about Michael Foot and Enoch Powell! ;)

Mancie 25-10-2010 22:28

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 855292)
Tony Blair could be a Tory...David Cameron could be New Labour...all these modern political leaders come out of the same mould anyway...you could never have said that about Michael Foot and Enoch Powell! ;)

No you could not say that about Foot and Powell..one a socialist and the other a right wing facist racist.. but at least they were honest.

jaysay 26-10-2010 09:49

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 855284)
I think it's only the start of Clegg's political career.. when it suits he could easily leave the dems and be a major player in the tory party...the lib-dems will suffer at elections from their disgrace.. but Nick Clegg will not.

Well there's one thing for sure he wouldn't be joining the cowboy outfit that have just been ousted from office;)

JCB 26-10-2010 18:47

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 855297)
No you could not say that about Foot and Powell..one a socialist and the other a right wing facist racist.. but at least they were honest.

In 1945 Enoch Powell voted Labour , but was soon to join the Conservatives .

In 1974 he left the Conservative party , and in the two General Elections of that year , February and October , he urged the voters to vote Labour .

In the October election he was elected as an Ulster Unionist MP .

When asked about the Thatcher victory of 1979 he replied , " Grim " .

In the 1980s he made speeches supporting unilateral nuclear disarmament .

Quite a maverick .

Tealeaf 26-10-2010 19:06

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 855562)
Quite a maverick .

Just like Churchill.

JCB 26-10-2010 19:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 855129)
And Neil Kinnock in 1992 too JCB

Yes , Jaysay . Poor Neil .

We can learn plenty from the ups and downs in politics , as long as you don't let it get you down .

I have been thinking of the General Elections in my lifetime . Only 3 governments went the full 5 year term , and all 3 lost power .
1. 1964 , the Conservatives led by Sir Alec Douglas-Home .
2. 1992 , the Conservatives led by John Major .
3. 2010 , Labour led by Gordon Brown .

David Cameron says that his government intends to serve a full 5 year term . :D:D:D

cashman 26-10-2010 20:17

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as i understood it JCB, Enoch Powell was pushed out in 74, after his infamous "Rivers Of Blood" speech? he never actually left of his own accord?

JCB 26-10-2010 20:29

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 855601)
as i understood it JCB, Enoch Powell was pushed out in 74, after his infamous "Rivers Of Blood" speech? he never actually left of his own accord?

Yes he was sacked from his shadow cabinet post after the speech in 1968 , but left the party in 1974 .

cashman 26-10-2010 20:32

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 855608)
Yes he was sacked from his shadow cabinet post after the speech in 1968 , but left the party in 1974 .

ah cheers fer clearing that up fer me, memorys not what it was,past alcohol, is getting the blame.:D

jaysay 27-10-2010 09:23

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 855573)
Just like Churchill.

Ya Tory then Liberal then back to the Tories;)


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