Originally Posted by Eric (Post 858784)

so maybe it's time to cut out the fatalistic, "what can we do" attitude to things which affect the sovereignty and independece of Great Britain, and take a lead from the French people by letting the government know, in no uncertain terms, how the people feel.

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 858793)

The problem is that would call for solidarity , a quality in short supply in the UK .

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 858825)

True summat i always said, remember the Poll Tax? a few pensioners went to jail, most others that said they wouldn't pay coughed up pretty damn quick, the only time ya get solidarity in Britain is during War Time.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 858841)

Might be a good time to declare war on the French:D

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 858844)

Only if we can use their Aircraft Carriers cos they will have planes on em.:D

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 858854)

Don't see this as a problem .... the pilots of those planes, like the crews of the ships, are probably more adept at flying white flags than they are at combat;)

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 858515)

True much has changed since 1975 , but there is also much confusion . The title of this thread is one example . The closer military ties with France have nothing to do with the European Union .

Another source of confusion is the Council of Europe and the European Court of Human Rights . These are not part of the European Union .

Many associate anything European with the European Union .

As I have already said I voted in 1975 to leave the EEC .
If there was a referendum tomorrow about whether we should stay in the European Union , I would not be as clear in my mind as I was in 1975 . I have yet to see a viable alternative to our membership of the EU .

Most of the debate is about single issues about which people are concerned . It's easy to pick on one topic to knock the EU , and sometimes to pick on one topic that has nothing to do with the EU to knock the EU .

There has been no serious debate about membership , or about what leaving the EU would entail .

Reading between the lines , you will probably see that my opinion towards the EEC , now the EU , has mellowed since our referendum .

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 858923)

You'll have Charles De Gaulle spinning in his grave:D:D

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 859947)

Screw de Gaulle .... that's the guy who made a speech in Quebec which ended with "Vive le Quebec ... Vive le Quebec libre"! Agitating the faeces big time.

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 864596)

Things are looking a bit serious in Korea, apparently France have already surrendered.

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 864596)

Things are looking a bit serious in Korea, apparently France have already surrendered.

Originally Posted by Alan Varrechia (Post 864599)

Doe's that mean we will be able to borrow their ships when the yanks get us involved. :D:D:D:D