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george osborne says britain will help ireland anyway it can .in what way can britain help ireland:confused: is this admission that labour was right to prop up the british economy and actually saved bilions of pounds of tax payers money. ater all this was caused by a worldwide recession;)
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not a good title fer a thread mate. of course they can n will blame labour.;) if wills n kate get divorced when they wed its labours fault, yeh should know that!
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The tories vilified labour for bailing out British banks, yet they seem more that willing to bail out the Irish bankers. :rolleyes: |
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Notice that since this malarky in Euroland started the urge to join the Euro has gone. If Greece Ireland and Portugal collapse then the great USE might well go under. I want to know why in this time of cutbacks the gov have money to bail out the Irish? This neighbour cowpats cuts no ice with me. Are the gov hoping that riding to the rescue of Euroland members it will curry favour? I think they are blind to the reality of it all.
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so how many sacks of potatoes are we sending exactly ?
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this is a typical move from cheating lying *******, whose only intent is to put the working class back were it belongs, in the gutter.:rolleyes: it would be just as incredible if people are surprised.
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Unfortunately the government have little choice seeing Labour signed up to the European Charter, which states member states will bail struggling economies out, that's the charter which Brown, although promising a referendum, renegade on Labours promise and signed it anyway
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At least Brown, when Chancellor, had the sense to keep out of the single currency or it would be costing a hell of a sight more.
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i cannot accept when our services are being cut, funds can be available fer this purpose.:mad:
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it was explained to me the other day that wee Gideon Osborne is trying to pull a bit of a fast one here, and I must say I hope he succeeds. Aparently, because we are liable to pay out for so many EU rescue funds etc. It makes some sense to dole out the cash to a member state that is close to us and where the cash will do the UK and its exports some good as opposed to doling our hard earned out to the rest of the PIIGS where it will do the UK very little good.
Having said that, I still think that it is wrong for the UK to be bailing out any of the profligate EU member states. After all, no one comes riding to our rescue when we get in a mess. The sooner the Euro crashes, and the EU with it, the better. It will be messy for a while but at least we will be back in charge of our own destiny again. |
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Matthew Sinclair - Director of the TaxPayers' Alliance - said:
"It is a shame that Ireland is paying such a heavy price for the huge mistake of joining the Euro. British taxpayers don't want to see their money poured into a black hole trying to bail out that failed project, though, particularly with money so tight here at home. They rejected the Euro and shouldn't be forced to pay for other people's mistakes. The Euro is fundamentally broken and Ireland needs to leave, not be railroaded into a bailout by politicians who are more interested in pursuing political integration than sustainable economic policy. The Government need to reject this deal or they will be betraying the interests of British taxpayers." Ruth Lea - Economic Adviser, Arbuthnot Banking Group and member of the TaxPayers' Alliance Academic Advisory Council - said: "The eurozone cannot work with such disparate economies. Putting aside the current financial crisis, it is hard to see how Ireland, for example, can recover economically. As one of our major trading partners this is bad news for us. At some point, the EU will have to come to terms with the exit of some of their members – the sooner the better. Of course there are implications for the banks – but better to deal with their problems directly rather than struggle with propping up the unsustainable." |
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First they lied to us and we did nothing.
Then they robbed us and we did nothing. Now they are going to enslave us and......... |
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It's likely that if labour were still in power they would hve done the same as the tories... but this government, and thier supporters, should take responsibility for thier own actions.
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If the UK makes any contribution to a loan to assist Ireland , I think you will find that it comes through the IMF rather than the European Central Bank .
Let's not forget that in the past the UK has been only too glad to have money loaned to it by the IMF . |
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well now thatchers old poodle lord young has spoke out, "we never had it so good", cameron has virtually proved he thinks the same by not sacking him immediately, it shows what the mega-rich tories think, whilst the ordinary tory voter, follows naively along thinking good ole conservatives, but never mind lads Labours to blame.:rolleyes:
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like his bow tie lol BBC News - Lord Young apology over 'never had it so good' remarks
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The guy was out of line, he was pulled up & has now quit. There I think you see a fundamental difference between him & other Politicians/representatives who've also screwed up but fought tooth & nail to remain in place.
'Never had it so good' Tory quits after rebuke - UK Politics, UK - The Independent |
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cameron probably agrees with him but cant afford even more bad opinions of him so distanced himself and ordered him to quit.
quite surprised he didnt send clegg to mop up the mess , he must have been busy cleaning number 10's loo |
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is fresh off the press? Good Grief! :eek: |
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If you remember at the time, the Conservatives and Labour agreed that the banks needed saving. Labour have however cost us billions of pounds by overspending before the recession even hit. Now we're spending hundreds of millions a week paying interest to bankers on all the debt the last Government left the new Government. |
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I've checked up on it , and from October to December 1976 Denis Healy was negotiating with the IMF . He succeeded in getting a loan of $3.9 billion . Sorry I can't put the link to the article , but I haven't got the knack of doing it yet . |
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So, it appears to me that even though the Tories are not allowed to blame Labour, it is perfectly alright for Labour (you) to blame the Tories, even after 13 years. Maggie may have stopped school milk and broke the Unions and Major may have signed Maastrich, however, they did not give away our gold reserves or take us into two unjustified wars - Labour did that. |
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read the lib dem quote lol BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Brown belatedly signs EU treaty
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The Liberal Democrats said Mr Brown's absence raised "serious questions". Lib Dem leadership contender and ex-MEP Chris Huhne criticised "inept and peevish behaviour that leaves Gordon Brown's reputation for honest dealing with our EU partners hanging by a thread". The LibDems only said what everyone in UK already knew - the Sword of Damocles was about to fall. |
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Don't make you laugh? Well.. Sorry if you find overspending and waste funny. Frankly I don't think it's at all funny that the Government are forced to reduce spending to pay for all the wasteful debt that the last Government racked up. Each to his own. |
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i would be surprised if the tories spend less they will only fiddle the figures,i mean the net spending like paying and bailing out of outside providers they are going to use ;)
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heres some more of the truth ;)
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This alleged "Truth" ? Where exactly ? Or is it secret, in fact so secret we can't even see it ? :confused:
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What's all this I'm reading in the British media about what is happening to the NHS? How the British system is set to become more like that ill-functioning and costly bs they have south of our border? And what are all the students po'd at? Is this part of the legacy of Labour mis-government? And Clegg, where the hell is his head at? This could be the end of the Lib-Dems and the beginning of a permanent and bitter polarization of British politics.
I don't think that either of these two messes can be blamed on Labour. Unless one considers it a "mess" to provide health care to all citizens regardless of their ability to pay for it up front, and to give the opportunity for post secondary education to all who qualify, not just to the gin and Jaguar crowd. The EU, I don't know about, or really care; it seems to me, at a distance, such an obviously stupid idea, that I'm surprised it ever got as far as it has. The tories seem to be blaming Labour for the harshness of their policies; but the dismantling of the NHS and the elitizisation (I made that word up) of post-secondary education would have happened anyway under a tory govt. It's ideology, not economics. |
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We have "Friends" on the other side ? But we're the wicked English ! Responsible for all ills that befall the Jockeens, even ingrowing toenails & piles ! :rolleyes: Or so they'd have the World believe, only problem I've got with that is .... well they've been left to their own devices since 1997...... now just a mo ! Wasn't there something else happened about the same time ?
Bingo ! The Labour party came to power, that's it ! Make of that what you will, me I'm just putting across some facts, no agenda here. :) ;) |
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never voted snp in my life alex salmond is a numpty and bows down to his own agenda which is his ego dont be so judgemental on all scots.as ive said before most scots want to stay in the union as it has been benificial to both countries and to close down kinloss and lossiemouth is a strategic disaster.
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Need I remind you at whose behest the "British Military" went off to fight another foreign war ? Well it couldn't have come from anywhere else (the money) as Labour wouldn't want to upset their voters by removing payments & benefits now would they ? They needed to hold back funds to buy support. |
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doesnt matter if weve made friends with russia all it takes is a change of leadership and were back to the beginning .we still need the nimrods for strategical reasons half the nuclear submarine fleet and hunterston nuclear power station is in the region all it takes is an air strike or terrorist attack and were gone.complacency thats all it takes.
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Nimrod is to be replaced by the Boeing RC-135 & UAV's like "Predator" & "Watchkeeper" will be used as they are more cost effective & deployable.
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/watchkeeper/ http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/predator/ |
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Due to the tory cuts here is a photo of the new missile defence for Britian..
http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/bp-homepage-tab-04.jpg |
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Due to Labour's nuclear disarmament policy here is a photo of the new missile defence for Britain.:D
http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/bp-homepage-tab-04.jpg |
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I think that is a German launch pad.
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more like a political decision, another thought just came to me if tories and business men think this BBC News - Theo Paphitis defends Lord Young's recession comments it must mean that they are admitting labour were doing something right ;)
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Specialist support at all levels, training costs of all those support specialists, servicing equipment, spares - the support costs would be astronomical. Some courses (full time), could last for over a year - imagine the cost of that. |
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Back to you C'mon, I believe as the aircraft was authorised under Labour. |
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The word "global" seems to have disappeared from the vocabulary of many of our politicians . All the good is due to them , and all the bad is due to their opponents . The fact that there is a world outside of themselves is conveniently forgotten . |
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Things are bad enough without me making them worse . :) |
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its new new labour;):D wonder where the tories found money to loan to ireland and when do they expect it back.why didnt they loan money to forgemasters another political decision BBC News - Sheffield Forgemasters' £80m nuclear parts loan axed the more this year goes on the more thee tories stink;) in fact clueless comes to mind
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Ultimately the electorate is to blame if you want to blame anyone . |
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I'm not a fan of John Humphrys , but he was interviewing Ed Milliband last week on The Today programme about Ed's relaunch of Labour . He took Ed to pieces . Ed's responses to Humphrey's prodding about what his policies amounted to were so vacuous . Ed couldn't come up with anything concrete , just vague waffling . If Ed can't do better than that , Labour are going to have to prepare for another 18 years in opposition . |
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