the tories cant blame labour now

[cmonstanley]

george osborne says britain will help ireland anyway it can .in what way can britain help ireland is this admission that labour was right to prop up the british economy and actually saved bilions of pounds of tax payers money. ater all this was caused by a worldwide recession

[cashman]

not a good title fer a thread mate. of course they can n will blame labour. if wills n kate get divorced when they wed its labours fault, yeh should know that!

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

george osborne says britain will help ireland anyway it can .in what way can britain help ireland is this admission that labour was right to prop up the british economy and actually saved bilions of pounds of tax payers money. ater all this was caused by a worldwide recession

They've already started... they shipped Norman Lamont (the worst Chancellor this country ever had) on Newsnight, and he was yapping on about the last government.
The tories vilified labour for bailing out British banks, yet they seem more that willing to bail out the Irish bankers.

[SPUGGIE J]

Notice that since this malarky in Euroland started the urge to join the Euro has gone. If Greece Ireland and Portugal collapse then the great USE might well go under. I want to know why in this time of cutbacks the gov have money to bail out the Irish? This neighbour cowpats cuts no ice with me. Are the gov hoping that riding to the rescue of Euroland members it will curry favour? I think they are blind to the reality of it all.

[accyman]

so how many sacks of potatoes are we sending exactly ?

[cashman]

this is a typical move from cheating lying *******, whose only intent is to put the working class back were it belongs, in the gutter. it would be just as incredible if people are surprised.

[jaysay]

Unfortunately the government have little choice seeing Labour signed up to the European Charter, which states member states will bail struggling economies out, that's the charter which Brown, although promising a referendum, renegade on Labours promise and signed it anyway

[cashman]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Unfortunately the government have little choice seeing Labour signed up to the European Charter, which states member states will bail struggling economies out, that's the charter which Brown, although promising a referendum, renegade on Labours promise and signed it anyway

Why? i'm sure theres nowt says we have to bail the irish banks out.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

Why? i'm sure theres nowt says we have to bail the irish banks out.

Think you'll find there is and the Greeks and the Spanish and the, well all member countries who get into dire financial difficulties, the problems in Ireland are starting to backfire on other European economies aiding recovery that's why the EU are urging action

[jaysay]

At least Brown, when Chancellor, had the sense to keep out of the single currency or it would be costing a hell of a sight more.

[cashman]

i cannot accept when our services are being cut, funds can be available fer this purpose.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

i cannot accept when our services are being cut, funds can be available fer this purpose.

I can't except paying anything to Europe myself, but life's a bitch

[Acrylic-bob]

it was explained to me the other day that wee Gideon Osborne is trying to pull a bit of a fast one here, and I must say I hope he succeeds. Aparently, because we are liable to pay out for so many EU rescue funds etc. It makes some sense to dole out the cash to a member state that is close to us and where the cash will do the UK and its exports some good as opposed to doling our hard earned out to the rest of the PIIGS where it will do the UK very little good.

Having said that, I still think that it is wrong for the UK to be bailing out any of the profligate EU member states. After all, no one comes riding to our rescue when we get in a mess. The sooner the Euro crashes, and the EU with it, the better. It will be messy for a while but at least we will be back in charge of our own destiny again.

[Wynonie Harris]

Matthew Sinclair - Director of the TaxPayers' Alliance - said:

"It is a shame that Ireland is paying such a heavy price for the huge mistake of joining the Euro. British taxpayers don't want to see their money poured into a black hole trying to bail out that failed project, though, particularly with money so tight here at home. They rejected the Euro and shouldn't be forced to pay for other people's mistakes. The Euro is fundamentally broken and Ireland needs to leave, not be railroaded into a bailout by politicians who are more interested in pursuing political integration than sustainable economic policy. The Government need to reject this deal or they will be betraying the interests of British taxpayers."

Ruth Lea - Economic Adviser, Arbuthnot Banking Group and member of the TaxPayers' Alliance Academic Advisory Council - said:

"The eurozone cannot work with such disparate economies. Putting aside the current financial crisis, it is hard to see how Ireland, for example, can recover economically. As one of our major trading partners this is bad news for us. At some point, the EU will have to come to terms with the exit of some of their members – the sooner the better. Of course there are implications for the banks – but better to deal with their problems directly rather than struggle with propping up the unsustainable."

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Unfortunately the government have little choice seeing Labour signed up to the European Charter, which states member states will bail struggling economies out, that's the charter which Brown, although promising a referendum, renegade on Labours promise and signed it anyway

That old chestnut won't wash this time... Britian has signed nothing that makes us liable to bail out the Irish...we are not involved in the Eurozone which has it's own massive funds to deal with the problems with Greece and Ireland. Any contribution made by this government will be thier own decision... even golden boy Osbourn has made that clear.