the tories cant blame labour now - Page 5

cmonstanley · 20-11-2010, 20:47

doesnt matter if weve made friends with russia all it takes is a change of leadership and were back to the beginning .we still need the nimrods for strategical reasons half the nuclear submarine fleet and hunterston nuclear power station is in the region all it takes is an air strike or terrorist attack and were gone.complacency thats all it takes.

DaveinGermany · 20-11-2010, 21:02

Nimrod is to be replaced by the Boeing RC-135 & UAV's like "Predator" & "Watchkeeper" will be used as they are more cost effective & deployable.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/watchkeeper/

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/predator/

Mancie · 20-11-2010, 21:23

Due to the tory cuts here is a photo of the new missile defence for Britian..

yerself · 20-11-2010, 22:00

Due to Labour's nuclear disarmament policy here is a photo of the new missile defence for Britain.

garinda · 20-11-2010, 22:03

I think that is a German launch pad.

cmonstanley · 20-11-2010, 22:15

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Nimrod is to be replaced by the Boeing RC-135 & UAV's like "Predator" & "Watchkeeper" will be used as they are more cost effective & deployable.

Watchkeeper Tactical UAV System - Army Technology

Predator RQ-1 / MQ-1 / MQ-9 Reaper - Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) - Air Force Technology

mmm already cost £3 billion another political decision

RAF Kinloss: Scrapped replacement for Nimrod 'largely completed' - Scotsman.com News

jaysay · 21-11-2010, 08:07

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mmm already cost £3 billion another political decision

RAF Kinloss: Scrapped replacement for Nimrod 'largely completed' - Scotsman.com News

Another instance of Labour throwing money down the toilet when there are cheaper and more effective options

cmonstanley · 21-11-2010, 08:46

more like a political decision, another thought just came to me if tories and business men think this BBC News - Theo Paphitis defends Lord Young's recession comments it must mean that they are admitting labour were doing something right

jaysay · 21-11-2010, 08:50

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

more like a political decision, another thought just came to me if tories and business men think this BBC News - Theo Paphitis defends Lord Young's recession comments it must mean that they are admitting labour were doing something right

Believe me CS if Labour do out right its a total accident

jaysay · 21-11-2010, 08:53

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

more like a political decision, another thought just came to me if tories and business men think this BBC News - Theo Paphitis defends Lord Young's recession comments it must mean that they are admitting labour were doing something right

The fact that interest rates are still only 0.5% is down to the Bank of England nout to do with Brown and Co. but maybe just maybe if Brown hadn't scrapped the Banking regs in the first place things wouldn't have been half as bad as they are

Barrie Yates · 21-11-2010, 10:39

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Another instance of Labour throwing money down the toilet when there are cheaper and more effective options

CS, did you criticise the Govt of the day when the TSR2 was scrapped. This was arguably the best aircraft of the time and for many years to come. They really did scrap it - even breaking up the finished aircraft (although I understand one example still exists), they even broke up the jigs and molds so that it would be too expensive to re-start the project - how many jobs were lost at BAe because of that decision?

DaveinGermany · 21-11-2010, 10:43

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

mmm already cost £3 billion another political decision

RAF Kinloss: Scrapped replacement for Nimrod 'largely completed' - Scotsman.com News

Hands up, I'd not seen this, that truly is a disgusting waste of tax payers money. They should have at least finished the aircraft & got some service out of them to justify their cost to the public purse. In this case it really is a bad call by the Coalition Government.

cmonstanley · 21-11-2010, 10:58

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

CS, did you criticise the Govt of the day when the TSR2 was scrapped. This was arguably the best aircraft of the time and for many years to come. They really did scrap it - even breaking up the finished aircraft (although I understand one example still exists), they even broke up the jigs and molds so that it would be too expensive to re-start the project - how many jobs were lost at BAe because of that decision?

quite interesting about the politics and division in them days as well BAC TSR-2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

jaysay · 21-11-2010, 12:10

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

CS, did you criticise the Govt of the day when the TSR2 was scrapped. This was arguably the best aircraft of the time and for many years to come. They really did scrap it - even breaking up the finished aircraft (although I understand one example still exists), they even broke up the jigs and molds so that it would be too expensive to re-start the project - how many jobs were lost at BAe because of that decision?

Twas a bit before my time Barrie don't really know much about it, I've just had a look on Wici, now my interests have been raised I'll have another look when I get a bit of spare time, but not on footy day

Barrie Yates · 21-11-2010, 12:27

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Hands up, I'd not seen this, that truly is a disgusting waste of tax payers money. They should have at least finished the aircraft & got some service out of them to justify their cost to the public purse. In this case it really is a bad call by the Coalition Government.

To bring them into, and maintain them, in service would have cost far more money than the original cost.
Specialist support at all levels, training costs of all those support specialists, servicing equipment, spares - the support costs would be astronomical. Some courses (full time), could last for over a year - imagine the cost of that.