Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 863937)

I'm just wondering who did the count........

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 863971)

The You Tube clip isn't very good.......

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 863977)

Looks to me like it was done by someone on a mobile phone and uploaded to there own youtube account so it wont be perfect will it? I am not sure if any professional filming was done or not.

It looked like fun to me and I still think its great that so many kids were involved with this.

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 863977)

Looks to me like it was done by someone on a mobile phone and uploaded to there own youtube account so it wont be perfect will it? I am not sure if any professional filming was done or not.

It looked like fun to me and I still think its great that so many kids were involved with this.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 863999)

It was on the Observer link...

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 863989)

well i think its a great idea, i think what Gayle does for Hyndburn is wonderful, who cares if it wasn't perfect, it's not supposed to be, its supposed to be as if everyone just joined in, it's keeping kids off street corners, giving them something to focus on and helping them have fun, i just wish we had a Gayle in Blackburn...... i think the negative comments about this are awful.... maybe you didn't have the chance to do this sort of thing when you where growing up...things have changed, it makes me so angry when people moan about things that are helping the future generations...GRRRRRR

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 863983)

They didn't look well trained at all - so was the taxpayers money well spent?- I think not.

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 864003)

Enough said, do a search on AccyWeb and see what many people think of the Observer now.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 864006)

Neil, I know what many people think of the Observer now......it is nothing like the local paper that represented the town for so many years......it feels like it is being run by amateurs who have absolutely no interest in local issues.

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 864021)

You mean this was funded and cost money?:confused:

How Much?

Why? Whats the Purpose / Goal?

How long where they actually on broadway for?

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 864028)

It cost £1,160.00
see thread
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post860743

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 864124)

Whatever, this is still an outrage. Accy is now a laughing stock, thanks to this stupid, stupid exercise.

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 864150)

I . It's a shame that a few members on here can't see the true purpose of an event like this and just use it to have a moan. When you pull your finger out and do something for the area like Gayle does I hope you don't get a few moaning minnies whinging about your hard work.

Ignore them Gayle and promote your very welcome hard work for our towns somewhere else.

.

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 864288)

Ok, what good did the event do for the town? :confused:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 863989)

well i think its a great idea, i think what Gayle does for Hyndburn is wonderful, who cares if it wasn't perfect, it's not supposed to be, its supposed to be as if everyone just joined in, it's keeping kids off street corners, giving them something to focus on and helping them have fun, i just wish we had a Gayle in Blackburn...... i think the negative comments about this are awful.... maybe you didn't have the chance to do this sort of thing when you where growing up...things have changed, it makes me so angry when people moan about things that are helping the future generations...GRRRRRR

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 864416)

I was thinking about how much the kids involved got out of it.

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 864430)

Agree with you hon ... looks like a lot of fun, and I can't see why anyone would want to bitch about it. I would like to see something like that here in Kingston ... maybe on ice, on the rink behind City Hall:dancedog:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 864434)

So a few young people got a bit of Saturday afternoon fun....

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 864445)

Nope you still think it was all about the final event and ignore the many hours they spent before that.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 864444)

professional looking, with a good video clip.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 864447)

thats were i'm lost, if its supposed to be a spontaneous act, there would not be hours spent before.:confused:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 864458)

I thought it was great fun and those watching did appreciate the lift it gave Broadway for a short while.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 864444)

professional looking, with a good video clip.

Originally Posted by Alan Varrechia (Post 864452)

I'm with you on that one Cashy, £1,600 quid and half of Accy knowing don't equel a flash mob.

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 864483)

I reckon there is no harm in this sort of event.. best thing is no chavs attended..:rofl38:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 864444)

professional looking, with a good video clip.

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 864445)

Nope you still think it was all about the final event and ignore the many hours they spent before that.

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 864512)

What is this any "excuse to moan week"?

I think the fact that a kid with a mobile phone who thought the thing was enough fun to want to video it on his/her phone and upload it on youtube for friends to see is actually a very positive sign that people enjoyed it.

You avoided the event on purpose so why did you bother to watch the video? :rolleyes::D

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 864515)

And how, exactly, does that promote Accrington?

The final event was what they were working towards......was it not supposed to be something to promote the area?

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 864519)

I think it would take far more that I am able to give to bring the town centre back to its former glory.
It is sad that I am old enough to remember those days

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 864534)

That's why you are the right sort of person to be involved.

Never underestimate the power of a community group. Politicians listen to groups or they loose there seat. It's as simple as that.

Numbers talk but one piece of advise would be to include councillors but don't let them have any control over your group. We need councillors but they can be a pain in the backside :D

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 864560)

People spending money in shops whilst waiting - whether it was a pie in Greggs or chocolate. I know that I spent about £15 in town that I wouldn't normally have done on a Saturday and I'm sure I wasn't the only one.

Originally Posted by katex (Post 864570)

I don't usually visit the town centre on Saturday. Come to think of it ... I spent well over £50 (gulp), which I probably would have spent in the Trafford Centre as knew I was going on the following Tuesday.

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 864560)

Here's what I saw last Saturday

About 400 people in the town centre that came in specifically for the dancing.

100s of young, deprived locals that have had free dance/exercise classes from a professional.

A town centre alive with people dancing and enjoying themselves and taking away a positive memory of being in somthing that they'll remember for a long time. The young people were buzzing with excitement about being involved.

People spending money in shops whilst waiting - whether it was a pie in Greggs or chocolate. I know that I spent about £15 in town that I wouldn't normally have done on a Saturday and I'm sure I wasn't the only one.

Something that will promote Accrington. The quality of the video isn't brilliant but that's not really important because it shows people enjoying being in the town centre. It is also part of a much wider project called LET which is promoting Burnley, Blackburn and Accrington - in the Arts world, it's made Accrington part of a much bigger whole. Anyone who wants literature on the LET project let me know and I'll send it to them. Otherwise look on www.creativityworks.org

A local, new creative business being supported. As part of the project, Cassandra is also getting business and financial support free from Business Link and Creative Lancashire, including free IT training and free financial training.

Finally, to the accusations that it was not spontaneous I would argue that very few of them actually are. The one in the shopping mall was clearly not spontaneous - there were about 30 camera angles for a start from which they were filming. The song and singers had clearly been rehearsed - as had the ones on the T-Mobile ads and the majority of others. It doesn't matter how you find out or how you learn the dance, the point is that it appears to be random or spontaneous to the crowds who are caught up in it.

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 864747)

But do not force your ideas of "Art" on to others - rather ask them what they would like to see.

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 863989)

well i think its a great idea, i think what Gayle does for Hyndburn is wonderful, who cares if it wasn't perfect, it's not supposed to be, its supposed to be as if everyone just joined in, it's keeping kids off street corners, giving them something to focus on and helping them have fun, i just wish we had a Gayle in Blackburn...... i think the negative comments about this are awful.... maybe you didn't have the chance to do this sort of thing when you where growing up...things have changed, it makes me so angry when people moan about things that are helping the future generations...GRRRRRR

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 864796)

If we still had the yearly awards evening I would nominate that for a stupid post award.

Ask 10 people what they would like to see and you get 10 answers. I am sure the ideas were agreed by someone other than Gayle. Probably the Councillors who we voted in to decide these things for us.

So what would you like to see in the center of Accy and are you going to organise it?

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 864796)

If we still had the yearly awards evening I would nominate that for a stupid post award.

Ask 10 people what they would like to see and you get 10 answers. I am sure the ideas were agreed by someone other than Gayle. Probably the Councillors who we voted in to decide these things for us.

So what would you like to see in the center of Accy and are you going to organise it?

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 864817)

Suggest you look at:
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...-55321-49.html

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 864815)

Sorry, but sure I would come a ;ong way behind you for that perticular award.
If you were aware of the world around you and not have this apparent fixation on Gayle, you would realise that the majority of contiributors to Accyweb do not agree with you. I happen to live in Brittany which is in France, as I openly declare - observation is a real attribute which is something else you appear to be lacking.

You ask what I would like to see in the centre of Accrington - what is needed? do Bury, and Blackburn, and Burnley and Doncaster need to have these entertainments to attract shoppers? No, they need a vibrant market with lots of shops around them - widen your horizons, look how succesful they are.
I realised almost 50 years ago that there was a wider world out there, so I went and experienced it, Eastabouts to Hong Kong and Westabouts to LA - but still consider Accrington my home town and will soon return to the area. I will also continue to voice my opinion as to the waste of public money, be it local or national purse.

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 864815)

If you were aware of the world around you and not have this apparent fixation on Gayle

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 864849)

I think the only reason my name comes up so often is because I am the public face of the ARTS in Hyndburn. You have no idea how much I hate being 'named' all the time. I don't do any of it for my own name to be broadcast around, I do it because I firmly believe in the arts as a way of encouraging regeneration, community and of getting young people out of a spiral of depression by encouraging and inspiring them. I am involved in COMMUNITY ARTS. That is, trying to get people of all ages engaged with different art forms.

btw, ARTS encompasses drama, music, photography, dance and so much more than ART, and should not be limited to just visual arts i.e. painting and drawing.

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 864835)

so accy is that great that you had to get out of it

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 864830)

Please explain why I am being a little simple tonight.

Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 864808)

Not often I agree with you but well said,if you crave negativity and moaning then Accyweb and its resident bunch of whingers is a natural home! :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 864861)

Way to go, hon. Keep up the great work, and illigitimi non carborundum:dancedog:

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 864903)

people such as you who have never ventured away have managed to create. Thankfully Bury, Blackburn and Burnley are now even easier to reach.

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 864927)

you really know nothing about the people of accyweb do you Barrie, if you knew anything you would know that i don't live in Accrington, if you took notice of posts other than to slag them off then you would know more about people....me not venturing away...now thats the funniest thing i've heard this year

Originally Posted by Alan Varrechia (Post 864981)

Anyone know how the flash mob in Preston market went this afternoon??? :D:D:D:hidewall::hidewall::hidewall:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 864920)

Nice of you to contribute lindsay:rolleyes::D

Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 865052)

Don't get me started, after meeting Mr Pritchard last week I am being incredibly diplomatic and kind and keeping schtum. :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 865053)

as well as moaning about people moaning.:D

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 864150)

I think you are making yourself the laughing stock with your narrow minded views on just about anything Gayle does, except of course when she was helping out Stanley. It's a shame that a few members on here can't see the true purpose of an event like this and just use it to have a moan. When you pull your finger out and do something for the area like Gayle does I hope you don't get a few moaning minnies whinging about your hard work.

Ignore them Gayle and promote your very welcome hard work for our towns somewhere else.

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 864150)

I think you are making yourself the laughing stock with your narrow minded views on just about anything Gayle does, except of course when she was helping out Stanley. It's a shame that a few members on here can't see the true purpose of an event like this and just use it to have a moan. When you pull your finger out and do something for the area like Gayle does I hope you don't get a few moaning minnies whinging about your hard work.

Ignore them Gayle and promote your very welcome hard work for our towns somewhere else.

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Congratulations, Neil, on a splendid piece of sanctimonious drivel. I assume your replied as such because you felt unable to delete my post but nevertheless it would have been a good idea before you did reply to check out your facts.

I do not attack Gayle on everything she does; in fact, it is just the opposite - I quite admire the way she has to raise and allocate a very small amount of financial recourses for arts in Hyndburn. You can take it from me that my silence on most of her projects means only approval.

However, in the instance of the Flash mob and the Vicky swimming gala, this appears both to myself and to most other commentators on here to be an absolute waste of public money - more so in the current economic climate.

Anyway, just to show you how nice I am - here's a smiley for you. And there's one for Gayle, as well.


:):)

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 865186)

Anyway, just to show you how nice I am - here's a smiley for you. And there's one for Gayle, as well.


:):)

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 865053)

as well as moaning about people moaning.:D

Originally Posted by katex (Post 865281)

No Cashy ... as someone is fond of saying : 'Just an observation' ... :D

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 864021)

You mean this was funded and cost money?:confused:

How Much?

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 864150)

I think you are making yourself the laughing stock with your narrow minded views on just about anything Gayle does, except of course when she was helping out Stanley. It's a shame that a few members on here can't see the true purpose of an event like this and just use it to have a moan. When you pull your finger out and do something for the area like Gayle does I hope you don't get a few moaning minnies whinging about your hard work.

Ignore them Gayle and promote your very welcome hard work for our towns somewhere else.

Lifes to short, we will all be dead when it hits the fan in Korea any way.

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 864517)

By telling people it was happening.

Damned if you do damned if you don't springs to mind.
If you are concerned about the centre of Accy surviving and did not appreciate this why not organise something yourself?
Create a Friends of Accy Town Centre or something and raise money for what you think will work instead of slagging off other peoples attempts to make a difference.

In other words "Put up or shut up"

That comment is not meant for any one person but all of you who want to do nothing yourselves except moan.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 868049)

I'm much too emotionally lazy ever to waste my time on being grumpy.

Life's too short.

;)

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 868058)

Welcome home mate, I hope all that sun and sea will have made you into your usually happy self instead of Mr Grumpy :p:D

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 868079)

Mr Grumpy Neil, that's rather unfair, he's only that on Mondays Wednesdays and every other Friday:D

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 868080)

As I pointed out, I never waste time being grumpy.

Although I do sometimes want to bang my head against a brick wall, before rolling about on the floor, laughing at the shortcomings of others.

But I don't think there was a Mister Man book called that.

;)

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 868107)

this was a well done thread...what the hell happened?